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ben_vulpes: diana_coman: no hard requirement, sure, i just imagine that replacing the crystalspace client's going to be no small pile of reverse engineering. i say this knowing nothing about the cs server/client software relationship.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 09:33:50; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform plans to use it to inspect memory of running bitcoinds in real time

ben_vulpes: diana_coman: relevant barebones howto: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000198.html

ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i doubt you'll move the client away from cpp, but tinyscheme is a potential route to embedding scheme /in/ the existing client.

diana_coman: thanks ben_vulpes , I'll have a look; it's been ages since I last wrote anything in Scheme as such, but if there's a chance of moving the client away from cpp it's certainly worth having a look at ☟︎

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell diana_coman ^^

ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << i swear i saw some mentione of this earlier but cannot find it now. for those playing along at home, the sig name for these patches that will please v.pl is <patchname>.vpatch.<signatory's_wot_handle>.asc

ben_vulpes: punkman: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html << in there

ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/02/01_hacking-on-the-satoshi-codebase-some-pointers.html

punkman: ben_vulpes: what happened to your buildatron?

ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 i got v.pl into a weird place where it didn't clean up its gnupg tempdir. perhaps consider using an "exit_gracefully" function where you're currently simply "die"-ing.

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:20:44; ascii_butugychag: the reason why i once suggested breaking up all patches into atomic patchons is that right now we have a stricter than necessary dependency flow

punkman: ben_vulpes: how is it inconsistent?

ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: nah, because i get "good signature from korsgaard"

ben_vulpes: punkman: by my read 'rebase' as mircea_popescu uses it means 'dump into the v tree' ☟︎

pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: need korsgaard's key

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:25:55; mircea_popescu: ideally, you go read the whole fucking thing, rebase and sign as your own.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:13:17; mircea_popescu: incidentally, this would be a pretty interesting sideline/possible job for someone dedicated. sell pre-made, fully liberated board+chip kits. for to go intos ervers etc.

BingoBoingo: In other Chiraqi news http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/obama-to-address-deeply-divided-illinois-legislature/article_10ce4082-8178-5fc9-92dd-d093852c661f.html

gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 48 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <nubbins`> <+mircea_popescu> in other news, chick on okcupid : "porque no me escribis en castellano << they say castellano in peru too, but if i'm not mistaken this is not universal in south america?

danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/693679552187502592

pete_dushenski: quote via http://www.thestar.com/business/tech_news/2016/01/23/the-blockchain-big-opportunity-or-big-danger.html

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: amd is not in wot, while we're at it

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is not silent at all, this is in the logs. and it drives me mad.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:15:11; mircea_popescu: if it computes it belongs in a dc.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 05:12:41; mircea_popescu: that's a pretty sweet board.

BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Prolly the later

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wait shouldn't shiva 2 be restated instead ? << this is probably a better. and its not even in the mirror at this point anyway.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Dual opteron could be useful in workstation.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: isn't tmsr also what most every organisation everywhere since ever aspired to be ?

mod6: <+pete_dushenski> ver 99999 is fine by me << yeah, this is fine. but the fact that it doesn't do what it should do isn't. i'll pull the patch tomorrow.

asciilifeform: likewise it appears that the shiva patch has an issue, you end up having to LC_ALL="C" ./bitcoind -shivainit=./shiva/init.scm -shiva getinfo

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: humour me, show how to denote that man-month in usd.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski mod6 i never used server thing myself.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or the 21.co PiTaTo

mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: it's sorta incredible that the fiatists who need infinite growth all want to cut their own throats with reduced consumption while tmsr~, who doesn't want anything to do with infinite growth, is buying and consuming like it's going out of style << actually, best estimate i can get puts TMSR GDP growth for 2015 somewhere around 450-500%. that's not 4.5-5%. it's not 45-50% either. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah, lots of interesting oddities came out to end the month.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's sorta incredible that the fiatists who need infinite growth all want to cut their own throats with reduced consumption while tmsr~, who doesn't want anything to do with infinite growth, is buying and consuming like it's going out of style

BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It's just residual pregnancy fog affecting your brain. It'll clear in 17 years

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> so unless bitbet is now drafting and seeding their own proposals... << this isn't even new.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Note the categories it was filed under

BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: It's not new. It's something that has always been brough up as part of BitBet's marketing for people to submit interesting proposals

BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Smaller house bet has alway gone to the person proposing the bet on BitBet

pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Yww_nYuFA << and in other videos, why NOT put a wwi airship engine WITH 3`000 LB-FT OF TORQUE in a 1905 fiat isotta fraschini ? seems reasonable.

BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: I'm thinking more the sheets used for the grilltops at McDonalds.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:39:47; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390320 <<< it's a lot easier to pretend cds are the golden standard of archival while sitting on a flac collection safely kept on a rpm hdd.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:25:55; mircea_popescu: ideally, you go read the whole fucking thing, rebase and sign as your own.

mod6: !up ascii_rear

ascii_rear: mircea_popescu: most of what you see in shiva is old wurk

mircea_popescu: ascii_rear do some other work for a while.

BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: I see nothing that preculdes guerilla cd operation from being done in reasonably clean warehouse for 1 or 2 new chevy suburbans worth of captial outlay.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so in this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur that bothering to grok it isn't a waste of your finite time. << yeah, agreed, Sir.

mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> can we at least have the option of loading from local dir instead of www ? <<< now that is a very good idea.

ascii_rear: mircea_popescu: aha, that was why i did it originally

BingoBoingo: ascii_rear: It's like a hard drive assembly line. Rather far from chip fab obstacles.

mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> but eventually we ought to be able to do spiffy things like writing my memory usage grapher ~entirely in shiva~, etc << quite. once this is fully functional debugging in trb can not be matched, period. by anyone, anywhere, doing anything.

mod6: <+shinohai> ok mod6 test completed, did not have to set set the perl option before building << ok good deal, i assume that the PERL_MM_OPT thing is an evironment deal.

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:18:57; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ?

mod6: <+ascii_rear> mod6: see anything that doesn't make sense ? << not yet. was just poking through how you load this thing up (in src/shiva.h|.cpp) - also looking at how to define more operations

ascii_rear: mircea_popescu: and your online build of buildroot et al?

mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.gernika.1:0460d190229514ca15052ed9ecf853adc7340cd5620aca6d64495d00876c7a7a

mircea_popescu: ascii_rear it's only scheduled if yo usay before we do :D

assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:11:40; ben_vulpes: hey, stan's bouncer died!

BingoBoingo: !up ascii_rear

mod6: ben_vulpes: the buildroot hash is in deps/Manifest.sha512

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: cd's aren't magic, but a cd press might serve a useful purpose for distributing samizdat that lasts.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm using trinque's experimental makefiles.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah. he also screams about how dumb usg is, hasn't yet moved away.

mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: do you expect me to have korsgaard's key in my personal keyring when running build-bitcoind-V99996K.sh? << yup, this is how it works if we want to verify the buildroot package cryptographically.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ? << yeah, i read your comments earlier on this. part of "battle-ready" to me means not only that it has lordship blessing, but it doesn't break any security paradigms that we m ☝︎

assbot: the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/238YcVW )

mod6: <+jurov> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin does not indicate the thing exists at all << this should probably say something separate about V. but the build script grabs it as part of the build & verify proces.

assbot: the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/238YcVW )

jurov: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin does not indicate the thing exists at all

mod6: ah ok. just to see if you hit that same PERL_MM_OPT thing? or just on another OS?

mod6: ./v.pl p v rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they aren't simply 'different sized holes', there is reed-solomon encoding

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu : FORGET about the rewritables!!!

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 19:32:50; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390020 << they do get signed. seems a minor point, how you get them.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i think they're going to try the sit around and talk about it while it goes away or whatever trick

phf: ben_vulpes: so actually inside the patch hunks are grouped by files, what i was referring to as hunks are actually per file hunk groups. so in other word the graph is already edge-per-file. i added the labels but it looks dodgy http://glyf.org/tmp/labels1.png http://glyf.org/tmp/labels2.png

mod6: ben_vulpes: heheh. its more like: here's the source code, see what you can do with this. unless .1, then you can have CD and volla!

asciilifeform: speaking of pc parts, found http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/15893/Novyj_korpus_Zalman_TNN500AF_ili_1_kilogramm_tishiny.html << ancient ru picture review of infamous ~entirely motherfucking silent~ pc chassis. good illustration of what this means. entirely unobtainable today at any price.

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:24:52; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform in particular

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389788 << what would ben_vulpes like to know ? ☝︎

mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6 and trinque as well << hacking the codebase? << I just build the statically linked bin with rotor via the build-bitcoind script that everyone uses.

asciilifeform: why not mircea_popescu do it ?

asciilifeform: i will l0l to death when i find out that mircea_popescu's tx debugger was ~also~ lisp-based

asciilifeform: but actually i think mircea_popescu is right, we will have a 'triumph of the cockroaches' situation

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 14:08:37; mircea_popescu: i'd imagine they'd opt for "countless multitude"

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:22:15; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges?

mircea_popescu: !up villan_

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:16:40; ben_vulpes: saying "no" to a hundred thousand dollars from Conde Nast is worth approximately 5x the bezzlebuxx in question.

thestringpuller: Yes cause people like mircea_popescu are so easy to control.

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:31:10; ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it bothered me that polarbeard apparently does not yet fully grasp that every line he writes is a unit of ~work~ for other people to do.

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:58:55; ascii_butugychag: the overall idea i am trying to teach is that anybody changing a line of trb ought to be mindful of the work this creates for others

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:58:18; ascii_butugychag: with ink markers

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 23:10:49; mircea_popescu: ie, infantile delusions of sovereignity through "privacy". this doesn't work. sovereignity behaves publicly and with impunity. that is the fucking point.