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undata: that's what I'm anticipating; bezzleland seizes up, and there's a horde of superstitious morons suddenly available as a resource
mircea_popescu: the important point here isn't that such plans exist, as they always do.
undata: I don't see why the Russians have to be involved as boogeyman
BlueMeanie4: i imagine as a Romanian you are not exactly keen on 'greater Russia'?
BingoBoingo: Stupid is as evil does.
danielpbarron: as in, "user friendly"
BlueMeanie4: Iphone ... as in trendy tracking device?
undata: asciilifeform: so someone can surely be beaten into this state; what I'm asking is whether they don't become useless as a tool in that state
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' '
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: 'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do
mircea_popescu: "Then, God be bless'd, it is the blessed sun: but sun it is not, when you say it is not; and the moon changes even as your mind. What you will have it named, even that it is; and so it shall be so for Katharina."
mircea_popescu: <undata> I'm starting to see Google Chrome as a trojan << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-11-2014#936618 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a lot of fucking debate as to whether 1000s of individual pieces are or are not electroplatred.
mircea_popescu: this is not like saying "go on a blind date with an unqualified woman", but like saying "take a random dude as a slave 5.8mn times"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Challenge Preet in single's combat to take over as Bezzel Arbiter for Manhattan
asciilifeform: because the larger the pile, the more otherwise-reasonable folks say 'you cannot build a rationally built structure as tall as this pile, as glorious, without using old chairs and dead squirrels'
undata: what I am trying to do in my own work is at least write lisp as the primary thing from which I derive the braindead shitpile
undata: asciilifeform: as I've learned lisp, I've started to wonder why there's anything else in the higher-level language space
undata: I'm starting to see Google Chrome as a trojan
asciilifeform: afaik there is still no www browser that correctly implements the whole pile of shit as an invariant
BingoBoingo: What was wrong with excite.com and yahoo as a phone book?
BingoBoingo: Thing was moderately interesting as RSS for dummies, but...
danielpbarron: what's the deal with ethereum going to counterparty? I'm curious as to how your short contracts will play out..
jurov: oh mod6 i forgot to suggest to send it as "patch" so that people can just add signatures.. nm, i'll add it there somehow
jurov: lol i realized the foundation's activity last month can be best described as "DNS scavenging"
mircea_popescu: mebbe send as attachment ?
assbot: Hedge Funds Shut as Managers Struggle in Year of Two Percent Returns - Bloomberg ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykJtIQ )
kakobrekla: hiv as Highly UnValuable
decimation: yeah as far as I know, except for extremely expensive bezzlar rockets usg owns, there is very little that can be done to intercept ballistic missile once it is past its initial acceleration phase
asciilifeform: as many as required.
mircea_popescu: dude this is like saying guy has to "subjugate" woman, as she needs nothing etc.
asciilifeform: as true now as in babylon.
decimation: there are loads of major and minor cities that were hollowed out as part of the dekulakization program
mircea_popescu: im sure they picked on them over disagreements as to how to treat bitchez.
mircea_popescu: decimation listen, the market in security is such that various groups always tend to posture as you know
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> they are seen as 'legionaires' standing between him and the horde. << Very true in the case of Ferguson particulars
asciilifeform: they are seen as 'legionaires' standing between him and the horde.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm. << USG dealing with CHina and Russia, won't seize but torch. Owner torches.
asciilifeform: difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm.
cazalla: as they do celebs
BingoBoingo made the mistake of going to Library school. "All of these old people are going to retire soon" they said. "People want technology skills they said" as they sort applicants by facebook.
BingoBoingo: I think they tend to still sell themselves as a broker
BingoBoingo: I'm coming around to this maybe being newsworthy, but as someone without a bank account I think another USian could do a fairer take.
BingoBoingo: The Aussie stuff though did come as a huge dump.
adlai: guessing here: you don't need a subpoena to browse the internet during an investigation, but you do need it to take that same internet page to court as evidence?
assbot: Australia: The Tax Institute Calls for 'Voluntary' Bitcoin Registry, Treating Bitcoin as Currency | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FL4pch )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/australia-the-tax-institute-calls-for-voluntary-bitcoin-registry-treating-bitcoin-as-currency/
asciilifeform: adlai: phoundation motherfuckers are crapping into golden toilets as we speak.
BingoBoingo: My nostrils can testify that this as of this fall turds were still a more popular fertilizer in my area for corn and soybeans than anything other.
undata: adlai: use it as fertilizer, grow something more palatable
mircea_popescu: how about the cia's strength and effectiveness as a potato ?
mircea_popescu: i like these "as an X" aspirationals.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Might as well go. They'll prolly station you in Russia.
thestringpuller: "The CIA's strength and effectiveness as an agency depends upon its ability to employ a workforce as diverse as the nation it serves."
asciilifeform: adlai: pronounce as approx. 'you shaggy'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the whole notion of files. file systems. memory allocation as a separate thing from disk operations.
cazalla: jurov: what's with the submissions to qntra containing lengthy documents verbatim? <<< anything contained in a <blockquote> as those length documents are, do not count towards word count
mircea_popescu: not that i'm against oxen or anything. but seriously, trying to sell me on braindamaged chickens with three beaks as a sort of unavoidable oxen ?
mircea_popescu: this, as a purely deductive matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as i said afore, " you'd have to be insane to use rented hardware oyu manage yourself. either colo your own metal or else have the fucking dc handle it if you don't give a shit"
mircea_popescu: i'd be just as puzzled.
mircea_popescu: i just never ran into this sort of edge myself. i guess count it as a blessing an' move on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i tried to explain, recent hardware means, inevitably, either recent kernel, or laborious pick-and-choose driver vivisection.
mircea_popescu: finding a fucking nat router that's not backdoored by design is a fucking hassle as it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cannot, much as i'd love to, use 486, or bk-0011, or handmade pdp-11 in fpga.
mircea_popescu: "If you have ever been F#CKED using BTCitcoin for something this would be a great way to memorialize that as well."
jurov: grr it linked other image as i meant
jurov: i guess mircea meant pople working for general public as opposed to their master
mircea_popescu: it had its political importance at the time, these aren;'t really remembered today, but at some point i had to go into fucking something awful forums and argue with the idiots as to why bitcoin actualy is valuable.
mircea_popescu: something tells me this is going to be the biggest problem of bitcoin finance. to earn a living as a rentier you'll have to own a shitton of 'em.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose in all fairness the byzantino-rabinical approach to the written text as deployed for the needs of bitbet is a special kind of hell for all esl speakers.
mircea_popescu: well i don't know the future for sure, as it happens. just kinda close.
leen_: i know that will not happen but just as an example
BingoBoingo: The odds move anyway, the calculator is just to be used as a rough guideline.
leen_: Bitcoin to drop under $250 before 2015 The price of one Bitcoin in USD will drop below $250 before January 2015 as per Bitstamp . If the difference between a given "Yes" bet time and the bet's closing time is less than one week, such bets will be refunded minus fee. First two "Yes" bets are excluded from this rule.
mircea_popescu: bitbet, as per usual.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> oh, nevermind. those are minimums. you can't be closer than that, but have no responsibility to be particularly close? << well not stated as obligations, but generally it's his job to get close.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> dear ddoser, please add more bots as it is not clear if you are still ddosing or not <<< yeah this srsly. i was half considering replacing the voice model with a ddos model, but srsly, you gotta provide better servcice for free if you wanna be part of infrastructure here!
BingoBoingo: Well, they aren't getting "theirs" anyway so might as well for the charity of it.
mike_c: my estimate seems a bit high at the moment. i gotta do some digging into why. I would use the october statement as a closer NAV right now.
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
kakobrekla: dear ddoser, please add more bots as it is not clear if you are still ddosing or not
jurov: pms should have same latency as all irc, no?
xanthyos: you can think of all numbers as having +bi but if b = 0 it doesn't matter
jurov: <adlai> slight tangent (from reading about impedance) - why on earth are complex numbers introduced as a+bi << easy addition and multiplication?
assbot: E-book prices may rise as VAT law kicks in | The Bookseller ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIxz5a )
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:30:52; asciilifeform: how come we never hear anyone arguing that there is no such thing as 'strength'
mircea_popescu: as i said, all sorts of heuristics can be useful. i tend to not pursue relations with the intellectually slow, which i often judge in seconds on simple cues such as eye movement.
adlai: slight tangent (from reading about impedance) - why on earth are complex numbers introduced as a+bi when (magnitude,phase) is an infinitely more INTELLIGENT way of understanding them?
mircea_popescu: belongs as a subset obscure philosophy, right there with aesthetics.
asciilifeform: about as much as physiology is a pseudoscience
mircea_popescu: (ie, stuff nobody would intuitively accept as intelligence)
asciilifeform: this is sorta like saying 'there is no such thing as strength of materials'
adlai: there may not be any such thing as "beauty", but "sexual selection" exists
asciilifeform: no such thing as magnetism.
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "intelligence".
asciilifeform: as well as other factors (reaction time, even)
asciilifeform: 'can't train' as in, you could, idea being, take it every morning, and get a useful result re: your mental state on that day
badon: It has a mintage of 200 for the silver version, and only around 10 specimens are known to have survived so far. More will probably show up as time goes by, but $4000 price tag did not bring any new ones to the market, which is strong evidence most of them are either melted or permanently in someone's collection.
badon: I was wrong. The "museum" is actually the Emperor's palace, also known as "the forbidden city".