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mircea_popescu: shh i'm writing!
asciilifeform: granted mircea_popescu will prolly add 'this is of course only win for the bull, not for the farmer' but i've never been the farmer. can only add pov of bull.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I follow the part re make your own hands - thing there is that there IS gain in that expenditure of time; and that gain is arguably more than the 15 bucks; however, I don't follow how does that lead to "makes sense just as much to collect coupons /whatevs "
mircea_popescu: i wish the record to permanently reflect that alison is a stupid fucking name.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-21 05:03 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-20#1716279 << I ended up going this route.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-26#1717535 << i'd like to revisit this item, because it actually makes sense to me : when asciilifeform was a student, he happily spent hundreds of hrs to make own lab equipment that was worth maybe a dozen 'min wage' hrs, theoretically -- because it was a more interesting way to spend the time than some min wage gulag would've been ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think i'm rewriting this ;/
cruciform: yea - I expect I'll be throwing a few bitcents as a gratuity to the designers once I've grokked how useful it is
mircea_popescu: ftr i've actually done that.
BingoBoingo: <cruciform> asciilifeform: it's underpriced << I can sell you FG made by "own hands" for 12 BTC with deliver in 12, require 50% deposit, my option to instead deliver two alf-hands FG at month 11 for your trouble
mircea_popescu: I mean, fifteen billion years after the Big Bang, someone can still
mircea_popescu: aite, well, i've no wai out now but to read it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm a hater what can i tell ye.
mircea_popescu: I turned to the burglar. "There is no antidote. But the toxin won't kill you. You'll just wish it
mircea_popescu: but i suppose the IMPLICATIONS WERENT MADE CLEAR hurr durr. pshaw.
cruciform: gotcha, and I expect your inductive argument is strong; on a large sample
mircea_popescu: on the other side, i don't know there's anything wot doesn't apply to.
cruciform: fwiw, I don't know that the WoT applies to nubiles
mircea_popescu: yes, but proxying "girls whose tits i enjoy" into "life partner" is how people harvest the bitter fruit.
cruciform: well my WoT is nascent, so I figured I could proxy "people whose blogs I enjoy"
cruciform: but yea I agree, no sense in putting off learning it
cruciform: I was hoping somone in the WoT would have already done that
mircea_popescu: i am reading!
danielpbarron: rats, i seem to only have mediums and XL with me, XL ok?
danielpbarron: i got some NSA shirts, will throw one in for free
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i might consider asking if there's any cheaper than fiddy bux floating around
mircea_popescu: in any case the amd cpu i bought was underpriced both at list price and at 2nd hand price. cuz i sure as fuck ain'\t making one in my laundry room out of lint and wall shavings for less than a few hundred.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-26#1717520 << i dunno you two, seems basic market research. "so item x exists, shipped by manufacturer, costs x. are there cheaper units out there ?" ☝︎
diana_coman: cruciform, for one thing man at till is not producer - while I don't give "man at till" extra for the product itself (I might give him for the service if warranted, what), I might even want to give producer more if I consider what he does to be a great thing; payment is support at the end of the day; anyway keeping with your example the thing would be: man at till says it'll be $10, do you ask around in the shop if anyone sells
a111: Logged on 2017-09-26 04:41 elaineo: cuz i spent a dozen years thinking that that would be my ultimate achievement in life
diana_coman: aha, so I got it right earlier: it's about cheapest price or else sucker
cruciform: diana_coman: not at all; as I said: I'd pay far more than NSA price
cruciform: perhaps I particulary want to patronise my vendor
asciilifeform: i'ma laugh if d00d confesses that he had to pay for postage ( s.nsa does not charge for postage... ) and it was == $15
diana_coman: asciilifeform, by now I suspect it's more a thing on the lines of "gotta have cheapest price possible or else sucker"
asciilifeform: cruciform: i must inform you that we recently dropped the price, on account of rising btc/usd , and most of the folx who presently own FG, paid ~more~ than is today being charged
diana_coman: cruciform, ah, so this is about "maybe there is somewhere a deal and I pay 1 dime less?
asciilifeform: ( granted there may be such a person, i have nfi )
diana_coman: cruciform, where did I say that?
asciilifeform: i even described how you can substitute mercury switches for the analogue boards, if you only need a byte/minute or so , as in dice
diana_coman: I don't have anything against others doing whatever, obv, just sort of ...not making sense to me
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i will add, for extra pedantism, that there are always TWO potential sources for FG : s.nsa, and OWN HANDS ( schematics and soft are published, go, make )
cruciform: asciilifeform: I want auditable RNG, and rolling dice is putting me on tilt
diana_coman: well, it's not whatever really; as far as I know there is only one maker of FG; and moreover, if I think the "widget" is underpriced then no, I don't waste time running around to ask maybe it's even more underpriced sort of thing
diana_coman: cruciform, I don't get it either: if you think NSA price is low anyway, then why are you looking for some other place to buy it for even less?
cruciform: I'm puzzled by your puzzlement
asciilifeform: !~later tell cruciform i've nothing against folx buyin', sellin', secondhand FG, but i'm very curious re the psychology of 'would anyone... less than listed price' -- do you see it as overpriced ? or chasing after the abstract pleasure of pinching a penny ? or which is it.
RagnarDanneskjol: I spent a lot of time there years ago
RagnarDanneskjol: wish I were in CR
RagnarDanneskjol: as good as it can be in UStardland I suppose
elaineo: i guess in the current form it's a ponzi scheme like social security
mircea_popescu: no, i mean it can not be undertaken economically.
elaineo: i've always felt that life insurance companies should be the ones paying for people's medical bills to keep them on life support.
elaineo: i see...
mircea_popescu: i've never encountered one that worked, outside of this one. but then again i lead a sheltered existence.
elaineo: @mircea_popescu I understand how wots work in general, is there anything particular about the one for #trilema?
mircea_popescu: there we go. one of these days i'll even learn how all the tools work.
elaineo: no, i did not
mircea_popescu: i'd ask you if it sucks but then again...
mircea_popescu: elaineo the sort of people to whom it is socially respectable would respect you a lot more for i dunno, a gucci bag.
elaineo: i don't think academia is as retarded as it's portrayed in MSM. they amplify the worst parts
mircea_popescu: anyway. i spent one semester teaching myself. it helped a lot that i was one year junior to the people i was teaching and had great relationship with provost.
elaineo: cuz i spent a dozen years thinking that that would be my ultimate achievement in life ☟︎
elaineo: well, i feel better about myself if i say that i was the one who left
elaineo: yeah, i didn't get tenure
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated elaineo 2 << somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
mircea_popescu: !!rate elaineo 2 somehow manages to write unirritatingly while also academia. i have yet no theory as to how this is possible.
mod6: lot of the bobcats i've seen recently have a 10-key pad to enter a code before it can be started.
asciilifeform: to this day i have nfi wtf was the point
ben_vulpes: it is a sad truth that all data centers i have been in have sadder coffee production facilities than even starbucks.
asciilifeform: in other lullies, https://www.ebay.com/i/232493884604
eo: that's tough. i'm only here because i already agree with most of your content.
mircea_popescu: i see. soo... wanna argue about anything ?
eo: @mircea_popescu only what i read in your blog posts
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
asciilifeform: unlike literally every other instrument i have
mod6: I had one result that was 10%, the rest 25%-50% : http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg-test.html
asciilifeform: i see 5 ... 95 range approx. flatly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the torture room , i get a pretty flat distrib of chisqr values
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if anybody's, at this early point, isn't... but this is by far the cheapest and easiest method for enemy to tamper, and leaves 0 physical trace
mod6: asciilifeform: so far, i've only gone to the extent of unplugging both RNG-TWs and ensuring that the SAD lamp does what it should.
asciilifeform: because -- unsurprise, i hope -- if yer FUCKGOATS were replaced with an identical-looking ftmeadegoats en route, it would pass (perhaps even 'prettier') the dh, ent, etc tests, as the original
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear of somebody other than myself, doing the yoke test
mircea_popescu: this "i'm more important than the world" is the easiest delusion.
asciilifeform: i and iirc a few other folx -- wrote
mod6: i like the mpex shirt too hehe. but aha, tits would be sweet.
mircea_popescu: tho tbh i'd prefer it modeled on tits.
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall tshirts being made at points
mircea_popescu: (for the curious, teeny slut above is from http://trilema.com/2010/masa-monetara/ which is part of a larger likbez on economics that i'm rather proud of)
mircea_popescu: except, of course, this is more like a levy. "oh i know, i'll argue with mp about building levies in 2015, as if that's fucking permissible now, arguing with mp ; and then in 2016 and then whoops, the obvious natural occurence took us by total suprise!!11"
asciilifeform: normally i think of word 'natural' as something else.
mircea_popescu: how exactly am i going to go "hey, he did nothing during state of necessity, but still should be in l1". because why the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714469 ; i dunno how oft i'll have to repeat this, but, comparatively, katrina was a minor concern. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : i idly considered checking out jamaica for a week or so. a) THERE IS NO BOAT SERVICE. fucking period. can you believe this inept shit ?! and b) idjits wanna connect through... miami. atlanta. FUCKING NEW YORK, someone actyually said this to me with a straight face, "sure, flight is 10 hours, sjo to la guardia and la guardia to kin".
mircea_popescu: i imagine the day is not far removed in the future where idiostani residence is absolute bar to l1.
asciilifeform: ( and possibly whoever thinks 'i'll connect via heathrow'. badidea. )
mircea_popescu: goes great with http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/diana3.jpg ; tho i expect you need an expert to spot the dialated pupils.
cruciform: what is it? I enjoyed a Romeo+Juliet last week
mircea_popescu: i rtecall the whiole convo
asciilifeform: i'm rather curious re why it was not snarfed