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asciilifeform: i see where mircea_popescu is going
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specify the experiment ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think about it, with otp, there is no reason for you to actually intercept the ciphertext
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:59:13; mircea_popescu: then again i suppose there's some middle aged lawyers somewhere that remember the days facebook was really cool.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> was also a penguin linked here recently, same idea. << Problem of using block cipher as code book
punkman: mircea_popescu: wut
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes otp key as long as message.
mod6: mircea_popescu: the reward for the Block Cipher contest
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes all symmetric ciphers share the key.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nope
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: otp is a particular very specific thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did learn a useful fact, if he had not already known it, namely that... there are not yet cryptographers
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wanted a non-otp that demonstrably doesn't suck
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu laughs at warez aficionados but then wants the things he wants, to fall from the sky for phree
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did not say 'motivate', but enable existing motivated.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 17:30:00; mircea_popescu: so - if "cryptologists" can not produce what i ask of them - their wives, to the brothel, they themselves to the mines, for fraud.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato! turns out otp has its very own lilienfeld
gribble: Frank Miller (cryptography) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Miller_(cryptography)>; One-time pad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad>; Frank Miller: Inventor of the One-Time Pad [pdf] - Columbia University: <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~CS4HS/talks/FrankMillerOneTimePad.pdf>
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu knows differently, and can show it, historians would like to know
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:47:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the 100k is a salary, 100 years of that buys you a house where your job is. you denying this ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> apparently i'm "self exiled to argentina" because i'm fucking local now. << I did that troll
asciilifeform: but perhaps this is not quite what mircea_popescu had in mind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw the 'multicore' fad as more or less equivalent to a public proclamation of 'moore's law is dead'
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:45:04; mircea_popescu: see alf ? you don't know things!
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:35:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397779 << yes, up until mp said fu, EVERYONE said moore's law is a thing.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:33:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << wasn't it just last year the vc circus was special pleading up and down the ying-yang that there's a horrible unmeetable demand ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:30:26; mircea_popescu: dude... fuck delusional "courts bans". no court has the power to prevent public communication OF ANYTHING.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:09:49; mircea_popescu: "thousands of dollars" ? earlier "electrical engineer" derp apparently made "low six figures", ie, 1/100 of what a house costs.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:58:34; pete_d_out: speaking of power consumption and moore's law, i hadn't realised that intel had claimed that the ~pentium 4~ would reach 10 ghz, nor that they actually manufactured the p4 at 3.8 ghz... in 2008. the only reason higher power outputs weren't produced en masse was that, apparently, the chips were already consuming 130w at 3.8 ghz and power consumption scaled linearly from there.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:43:34; pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's what angular.js does
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so much 'wrong' as have obvious engineering limits. just as the west has own, aha
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a personal landing page site done in Angular.js so invisible to sane browsers
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:59:04; pete_d_out: fuck, i'd totally run a 10 ghz pentium. not like i pay for leccy.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397780 << straight to your local welding shop, pete_d_out, and fill up yer dewar with ln2, this is an ancient recipe ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: South Park's "Stick of Truth" pretty much set the bar for interactive TV sold as game
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes & his hipster friends are happy to wait 30 s for a webmail screen to load
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which kind of gaming a) uses gpu silicon b) tolerates 100ms+ wire delay ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:51:36; pete_d_out: " In the latest move, AMD unveiled its FirePro S-Series GPUs that include the company's hardware-virtualization GPU architecture, Multiuser GPU (MxGPU). The technology is aimed at such segments as virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI), remote workstations, cloud gaming and cloud computing." << is cloud gaming a thing now ? i thought it was all ipad gaming.
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: in lieu of good morning, http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2pm9kcA871qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:43:34; pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:23:51; ascii_field: gernika: for the record, i once tried to get 'blue collar' work, and failed. turned away, 'overqualified, you'll leave as soon as you can'
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:15:25; pete_d_out: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397706 <-- para los que non tienen una suscripcion --> https://archive.is/5QNIo
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:22:28; mircea_popescu: computers should come on fucking fabric already, i go to the shop buy 8 meters of opteron.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:19:55; mircea_popescu: hahaha templeos guy is making his own hardware now ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: 5gHz overclocks aren't that new
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:20:17; ascii_butugychag: 'fuck you, my public key is m * the next mersenne prime'
BingoBoingo: !up pete_d_out
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:43:37; ascii_butugychag: or the one who came by my old office disguised as 'friendly neighbour, retired blahblahblah'
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 21:59:36; ascii_butugychag: remember the 'desk elephant' ?
BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: Well McCollarbone is only on pace if he keeps up the pace set in the sample size of two games he has after returning so far.
BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: When you're authed we'll have the discussion to guide the sense of humor in the future that changes everything
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
BingoBoingo: !up pete_d_out
mircea_popescu: getting back to the other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m83s9b6zNK1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
Luke-Jr: wait, that's you? I thought it was mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: but in gauzy news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maznqwHuZ81qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu was allergic
asciilifeform: re: the cipher thread, gotta love how nobody complained re: mircea_popescu asking folks to solve an unsolved mathematical problem, the answer to which eluded two great empires for half a century.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 22:49:53; BingoBoingo: https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease_info.php
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 00:34:19; punkman: ascii_butugychag: i'll pass. << weren't you after blobless workstation with recent cpu?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 01:24:23; mircea_popescu: ok, this one's for asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116441
BingoBoingo: Now /.adventure this shit spreads https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/44d8je/slashdot_knows_of_our_butterfiend_mircea_popescu/czphupg
punkman: ascii_butugychag: i'll pass. << weren't you after blobless workstation with recent cpu? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/02/intel-chips-to-get-slower/#comment-45052
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag honestly, i suspect a) all actual cryptography revolves around º and º' pairs and b) rsa is the only one where º = º' = multiplication.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of social media, http://40.media.tumblr.com/67df9a526e3b44466d76e5685e9f5e75/tumblr_nocd50SYCK1ssvq9so1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag ha! see above :D
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 22:32:43; BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: You don't know how astroturf works. It doesn't work if you attack actual mysteries. You gotta attack fake ones like blockcipher as PoW
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "Not satire, just stupid and wrong." lol BingoBoingo just how much derp butthurt have you produced today ? << Less than usual actually.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu, i suppose, is a natural-born exterminator. whereas i see crushing, poisoning vermin as hard thankless work
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i had never even heard of it prior
asciilifeform: !up ascii_butugychag
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag never used socat ; don't care.
mircea_popescu: and in other trottin' out whores news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f94d43d7284028537e591427b0a2f291/tumblr_nurxnsJcS81qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo: https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease_info.php ☟︎
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: You don't know how astroturf works. It doesn't work if you attack actual mysteries. You gotta attack fake ones like blockcipher as PoW ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: i'm a bit surprised that nobody whined re: the most obvious boojum of mircea_popescu's contest - how will it be judged.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Note all the derps supposing the block cipher is somehow supposed to be used as a proof of work
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Not how many of them appear so rapidly
ascii_butugychag: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8713235&cid=51449777 << the obligatory mircea_popescuphobiacs come out from their holes
BingoBoingo: related: "Is this satire?" on https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/44cyvu/intel_chips_to_get_slower_particularly_relevant/
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Mebbe. I got to read into it.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu et al ^ ?
asciilifeform: !up ascii_butugychag
punkman: ascii_butugychag: i even like the (beefed up) mceliece << which one?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag re the comment etc : i am definitely awarding for a degenerate shoup, if that's what we agree on using.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag sweet.
BingoBoingo: !up Sojourn_
ascii_butugychag: ben_vulpes: wut
asciilifeform: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.verify-it.de/sub/cramer_shoup.html << in elisp, no less ☟︎
asciilifeform: !up ascii_butugychag
punkman: ascii_butugychag: browsing through the 2015 iacr archive, seems like almost every third paper is about homo crypto
asciilifeform: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 18:34:10; ascii_butugychag: pretty much everything i give half a shit about was in better shape in 1900 than today.