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assbot: AmEx Grip on Wealthy Consumers Seen Slipping as Rivals Take Bite - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVxGn4 )
asciilifeform: old hat. east india company ran as much on the latter as the former
decimation: the 'meaning of money' seems to have a scale from 'tool to settle private debts' to 'note from stalin'
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Amex is fine. They partnered with Walmart for poor people ATM cards
mircea_popescu: decimation it's not even that, it's just... the *meaning* of money changes.
decimation: the eu has their own version
punkman: decimation: just the US?
decimation: because 'must grow big to get a seat at the table where they hand out bezzlars'
decimation: yes, the us today is more-or-less dominated by centralized megabusiness
mircea_popescu: but in any case, however you explain it on the "micro" basis : competition and central control are mutually contradictory. much like anabolic and catabolic processes.
mircea_popescu: in another perspective, qe is an abdication of monetarty sovereignty. sovereignity is a fixed sum, so it just moves in other parts of the system - monopolies form.
mircea_popescu: the worst effect is that everything forms monopolies. in a physics intuitive approach, what QE does is basically increase the superficial tension. this forces bubbles to merge.
mircea_popescu: the obvious effect of "keynesian" money pumping is bubbles, but that's not the worst effect.
mircea_popescu: decimation ouch, amex kinda set to go out of biz huh.
punkman: (I'll mention again that if you let VerifySignature run on all tx's, it blows up much sooner than block 168000)
punkman: could just keep the checkpoint stuff though, and not verify all the ecdsa signatures.
assbot: Logged on 14-02-2015 00:20:24; BingoBoingo: punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << For the time being... empirically. There a set with six year's worth a data to test against by syncing.
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2015#1017753 << I was more wondering how much cruft we'll need for that. ☝︎
assbot: Telescopic contact lenses let you zoom in on demand - tech - 13 February 2015 - New Scientist ... ( http://bit.ly/1AlAMkB )
decimation: sorry for the dup
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:07:08; mircea_popescu: decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet << pretty much how that racket goes yes.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2015#965039 < mircea_popescu apparently amex was too fucktarded to keep costco as a client http://fortune.com/2015/02/12/amex-costco-dumps-cards/ ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2015 22:07:08; mircea_popescu: decimation: re: costco & amex << I suspect amex gives costco a deal (pays them) to force a large percentage of the upper-crust customer-base to have an amex card in their wallet << pretty much how that racket goes yes.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2015#965039 < mircea_popescu apparently amex was too fucktarded to keep costco as a client ☝︎
ben_vulpes: there's always something silly happening in the backwaters
decimation: ben_vulpes: did they try to send you to jail?
ben_vulpes: i got a reckless driving charge one time.
decimation: the execution might not be there though
decimation: asciilifeform: I think they have the nub of a good idea, having all the steps in manufacturing clearly brought out in one spot
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
decimation: thestringpuller: in VA if you are speeding 15 mph over the limit it can be considered 'wreckless'
thestringpuller: decimation: isn't there a super speeder law in VA and MD because people drive so terribly in DC?
decimation: it will be interesting to see if this 'service' continues to exist for a period of time, and if so, how it matures
asciilifeform: in short, i am presently at a loss as to what this is good for, how, and why...
asciilifeform: as for actives, virtually none to be had.
decimation: and their non-passive even more so
decimation: yes their house passive selection is very limited
asciilifeform: it lets you fidget with the selections
decimation: nor a catalog of parts that 'can be had for a price'
asciilifeform: decimation: you have to crap in an actual project to learn the costs
decimation: yes, I couldn't find any mention of the costs of 'non-house' parts
asciilifeform: e.g., $1.50 to place each 15c resistor they refused to stock
ben_vulpes: <herbijudlestoids> [] deployment tools, config mgmt, automated service discovery etc << /me is tres jelly
asciilifeform: they make up the difference by nickel'n'diming the chump for the 'out of house' parts
asciilifeform: assuming the thing isn't simply a blackhole for money,
asciilifeform: nah, i think i figured it out
decimation: asciilifeform: if they are truly able to deliver at the prices they quote on the 'demo', it seems likely that they are 'debt funding'
asciilifeform: somebody has to watch it go
asciilifeform: the nozzles (disposable, golden toilet) clog, etc.
asciilifeform: decimation: those trade nre for a vastly higher cost per board
decimation: I suspect they are using one of those 'ink jet' solder paste printers
asciilifeform: decimation: also there is no small amount of actual human labour involved in the process.
asciilifeform: decimation: the boojum lies in the nre costs, typically (largely paste stencils, but not only)
asciilifeform: decimation: -everybody- queues the jobs into conveyor-width panels.
asciilifeform: 'You can drop a mouse down a thousand-yard mine shaft; and, on arriving at the bottom, it gets a slight shock and walks away, provided that the ground is fairly soft. A rat is killed, a man is broken, a horse splashes.' ☟︎
gribble: Haldane, On Being the Right Size: <http://irl.cs.ucla.edu/papers/right-size.html>; .. a man is broken, a horse splashes - Physics Forums: <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/a-man-is-broken-a-horse-splashes.585757/>; On Being The Right Size (Hollywood edition). | The Inverse Square ...: <https://inversesquare.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/on-being-the-right-size-hollywood- (1 more message)
decimation: apparently the kicad-pcb.org page is dead
decimation: pony-farts would be a fairly good way of navigating the dc traffic jams
asciilifeform: but i could also live with a pill that propels me on morning commute by enabling me to fart ponies
decimation: I'm not sure how they 'make it up on volume' if they have to hand place parts on the whole thing
asciilifeform: i could live, for example, with an outfit that would crap out the board and place just the passives (then i xray the damn thing here. and place the actives personally)
decimation: supposedly the macrolabs people 'make the economics work' by queuing up all the jobs onto a giant panel
asciilifeform does not expect to find one of these things that works for any reasonable value of 'works', because the economics of it are not, to put it very gently, favourable
asciilifeform even more disappointed than expected to be
decimation: I guess because they can't write an http uploader that works?
asciilifeform: but why force user to use turd service ?
asciilifeform: i assume they will all 'mistreat the data'
decimation: they promise that they won't mistreat your data
decimation: asciilifeform: hehe yeah I wondered when you were to walk into that
decimation: because apparently all their new 'features' are in the new 'unstable testing' version
asciilifeform: decimation: circuithub << wait, lol!!! >> 'In order to upload your first project, please create or link a Dropbox account.'
asciilifeform: and, even were this fixed, its autorouter is dumb as rocks
decimation: asciilifeform: I find kicad amusing - when you go to download they have a little description begging not to download the 'old stable' version
asciilifeform: geda is great in every way except for being terminally buggy and the fill polygons fell apart
decimation: there's another similar vendor https://circuithub.com/ << supposedly they actually deliever
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so do mine. but at least a) i actually fuck them and b) i don't take them without a significant prior investment from other people.
asciilifeform: and even took a month last year - learned geda
asciilifeform: did try it
decimation: I might try kicad to see what it does
asciilifeform: decimation: semi-automatic turk
asciilifeform: (for what? rng. small board, nothing secret therein. yes, motherfucker has my gerbers now)
decimation: in a 'mechanical turk' fashion
decimation: my understanding is that you are required to manually place the parts
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stop wasting your hours! you're a process man, you belong to s.nsa now!
asciilifeform: cranked through all the parts substitutions crap
asciilifeform: decimation: and demands weird gerber layers that i haven't got
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : take the bright side of life. "not liking kids is not a valid reason to not have any - you'll be stuck with some anyway."
decimation: asciilifeform: lol thanks for jumping on that
asciilifeform: decimation: 'macrofab' << i worked through an entire board.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, if one doesn't have the culture to know that glob's a verb, the above is also "a very bad argument" .and so on.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, my "which of course is the very point" above is also "not very clear", in the sense that if one isn't particularly bright, the recursion of "what dk says is that people think they're better than they are" is not immediately glob'd into the expression.
thestringpuller: mod6: ben_vulpes it got past the wedge
mircea_popescu: your average doobie, with a mediocre college degree and an ESL culture mostly geared towards ingested summaries is perfectly unable to decode metaphor or recognise complex enough patterns and fill in the gaps. this to him is frustrating, and the frustration is predictably resolved by lashing out (hey, it's the guy fault for using rferences i have to google and math i don't grok!11). in no way better than a clinical mor
decimation: it's like watching a cripple trip on a bump, adjacent to which is a sign that says "attention cripples: do not trip on this bump"
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> it's funny/sad how parenting reverses over time << oh this is great news you mean i have to take care of both ends? great.
mircea_popescu: but in fact, the moderately stupid are just as handicapped understanding why they aren't smarter as very smart people are, understanding THE SAME THING (ie, why they aren't smarter).
mircea_popescu: people thinkg that effect only shows up in idiots, and so not in them. which of course is the very point.
decimation: mircea_popescu: that's a lulzy exchange. the doctor_why_bother guy is a living example of 'he misses the forest for the tiny sapling'
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing << for those blessedly uncontaminated with "c machine" constructs, it's hard to tell where the "c++" leaves off and the "boost" begins. it's clear that it's used in every for loop (c++ doesn't have iteration constructs?!), but the question if you didn't read closely enough was "why bother?" not "should one?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711276 << this you'll appreciate. grep for "Doctor_Why_Bother"