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a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 09:41 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881941 was previously lost on me, so my committment outlay is a given, with the inevitable conclusion of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881910 i figured that out before the tmsr conversation, so the whole thing was just a public reveal of my idiocy, salt on the wound if you will
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885065 << if anyone is curious, in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863563 : there's a very strict and very obvious distinction between the ~types~ of promises ; typified by the "forever &ever" coda of imperial bullshit. my slaves serve ~at will~, which is to say until i get tired of one and not a moment longer. there's no security available, offered or contemplated. compare an ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 05:29 mircea_popescu: Mocky a lot of the femstate's "solutions" to problems consist of this sorta acceptance bs. about as unsuprising as biology can ever get.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885053 << recall the infamous rat temples of india.. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 03:07 asciilifeform: zx2c4: you may find it interesting to learn that i once worked in a dour 'salt mine' where shat out 'correctness proof' all day. in 'sage.'
asciilifeform: and was dead in the water, from tmsr pov, the whole time
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 09:44 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884837 << remote work, but you also have to remember that i moved away much later in life than you did, i have a very large meat wot here
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 05:26 ave1: well arm part works, but I wanted to do some more experimenting with how the call the asm, as register allocation cannot be specified in GNAT
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885042 << this'll be handy when i get to asmized variant of inner muls in ffa. looking forward to reading ave1's piece. ☝︎
asciilifeform: so theoretically can have a steinized daykin ( it remains to be sweated out whether this is moar economical than stein, i'ma get to it today ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i woke up at night with the following wtf : you can actually make ~any~ gcdtron converge in same steps as stein's, cuz any time the buffer is even, you can shift it right (unshared factor of 2); and then when you add (or subtract) these odds, you get another even ( and can do it again ) etc.
asciilifeform: ( and it's a correctable mistake, but again we can come back to this laters. )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 09:42 phf: the result of reflecting on the idiocy of the whole secrecy approach: i basically got suckered by promises of future great reveals, did free work while also locking myself into the selfsame structure.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885069 << i'll take off hat ; realizing this mistake is perhaps 1st step from alchemist to chemist ☝︎
asciilifeform: hey phf, does the left switch on your cst billiard ball seem muffled vs the right ? i can't decide if mine's defective or not, just noticed last night.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885072 << danke schon, phf. and i aint gonna kick you when yer down, we can always come back to the thread laters. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that was the most odessa jew thing you ever yet said.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps he'll at least inherit the flat...
mircea_popescu: eat, pray, love, or how did that go.
mircea_popescu: efore -- that is, zero-cost shouting ; (the bounty of that experience also readily provides us with a luxury no woman knew before -- that is, zero-cost defloration, the experience of the "significant" cost of expression as perceived afore the fact dissolving into nothingness with the consummation, "what a big deal writing this blogpost was going to be that it didn't turn out to be after all") ; and so following.
mircea_popescu: all that said, there's no bad blood here. i have infinite time (in the sense that the republic is eternal, not in the sense that i've been around for seven milennia or thereabouts) and every boy has to take his own fucking journey to his eventual himself. for as long as you can continue speaking the truth you're perfectly welcome here, as everyone ever is ; the magic of the workings of the log permit us a luxury no men knew b
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, there's nothing you can say to keloid. it's made out of cells and cells are deterministic mechanisms. societal scar tissue however is the result of ~deliberate choice~ that is then just as deliberately hidden from the self ; not of some sort of complicated protein signalling.
mircea_popescu: it. hence all the lashing out.
mircea_popescu: the sad part, and a problem very much in the vein of the http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-111.0-121.824 duality, is that men ~ARBITRARILY~ deciding to live in a matriarchy doesn't merely fuck over them ; it fucks over everyone, now the females of your generation are stuck living in the same shit whether they want to or not ; because unlike your case, there's exactly jack shit ~they~ can do about
mircea_popescu: what they will be and precisely naught else.
mircea_popescu: the reason i wrote http://trilema.com/2018/patriarchy-vs-matriarchy-the-straight-dope/ wasn't that i was bored that day ; or that i don't like people. for as long as you continue thinking your value is established by some woman, you will continue having the same ~type~ of problems. they can be colored any way you like, and lives can readily be spent in that coloring exercise ; but as far as substance is concerned they will be
mircea_popescu: nor am i going to congratulate mocky on his downstream spawncount ; and also because i like him. spawning is a biological function of women, as remarkable as taking a meal, and the day ima start congratulating people for drawing breath is the day i have no further need of myself.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously your apparent "escape to russia" was just deeper capture ; yes obviously your attempt at corrupting teh fiat backfired. things will continue to work this way for you for as long as you continue acting like a woman, because biology works a certain way and everything else is driven by that and that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: phf i'm not going to pass in silence over the obvious "check it out, there's no women in phf's fambly, he's taking care of the last one by own hand" comment ~because~ i like you.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884636 << if i put that at the top of the free time work list i can get it out fairly fast, but i think keccak regrind that diana_coman is blocked by comes before that anyway ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:44 asciilifeform: i admit that i'm at least a little curious how phf finally managed escape velocity from the bigzone, but if he doesn't feel like spilling re subj, also won't cry.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884837 << remote work, but you also have to remember that i moved away much later in life than you did, i have a very large meat wot here ☝︎☟︎
phf: the result of reflecting on the idiocy of the whole secrecy approach: i basically got suckered by promises of future great reveals, did free work while also locking myself into the selfsame structure. ☟︎
phf: i agree that the secrecy approach doesn't work, i wasn't the driver behind it, i was skeptical about it, but i wanted to see it play out, and it failed spectacularly. i did the relevant manual labor and promised not to share what i got out of it. and yes if i thought about it, the blood oath puts me in the position of the very same whisperers, where whatever i have i can't make use of. my vague comments about old men and gold chests are ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 19:37 mircea_popescu: the very substance of http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ is ~specifically~ DO NOT MAKE saeculum promises, it will bar you from republican life.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881941 was previously lost on me, so my committment outlay is a given, with the inevitable conclusion of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881910 i figured that out before the tmsr conversation, so the whole thing was just a public reveal of my idiocy, salt on the wound if you will ☝︎☝︎☟︎
phf: i don't see sharing of parts, or the whole with asciilifeform under whatever terms, etc. irrespective of what will be done as resolving anything: i made original promises in good faith, and i'll be breaking them. my ideas of how to work around that were idiotic and in retrospect that was an obvious mistake, which ftr asciilifeform avoided by refusing any kind of dealings. on the other hand the point
phf: i have nothing to dispute in the thread or in the consecutive conversations that i wasn't part of. for one, i think i lost my shit (i'm sure week 2 of grandmother also didn't help), because the very first mp reaction was the whole deal, with my role and the outcomes being immediately obvious: i made amorphous promises outside of the republic, and then attempted to badly navigate around them, with the inevitable result. trinque's
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:38 mircea_popescu: so, phf : how about you start clearly communicating yourself, beginning with a complete, correct and true to life adnotation of said discussion in your own hand, because this "ima go meditate on things until everyone involved forgot what i was meditating on" isn't a workable approach to intellectual life.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884626 << i wasn't meditating, i just don't have the mental energy to defend myself. i'm in russia primarily to take care of my grandmother who has dementia, and she was in a pretty critical state when i got here. i'm sure it'll stabilize, but as of right now i don't trust myself to have rational conversations around sensitive subjects online. ☝︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, and 13 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf ch. 14b into http://btcbase.org/patches , ty !
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:40 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884626 << i suspect phf is hunting elk in kamchatka, or similar , atm ( i.e. still waiting for http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa refresh , so i dun think he's been at console much recently )
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884834 << i like the elk hunting theory, but i actually had a flu the past week ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how these things go.
ave1: Time wise, my last job ended in december and I started new job this year. Both finish- and start-up demand(ed) more time than I had earlier foreseen.
ave1: About reporting failures, the reporting itself was also failing, but I will pick this up.
mircea_popescu: Mocky a lot of the femstate's "solutions" to problems consist of this sorta acceptance bs. about as unsuprising as biology can ever get. ☟︎
ave1: I have installed previous cuntoo versions, but have no machine free at the moment and I concluded from early reports here in the log that it did not work yet, so I postponed this work.
mircea_popescu: i know it seems like a waste of time on the spot, the first time.
mircea_popescu: it is ~very~ useful to explain how things like this blew up, in writing. both for others today and for you tomorrow.
ave1: other thing is the ebuild script for gnat
ave1: adding register allocation to gcc turned out to be too gnarly for this round
ave1: well arm part works, but I wanted to do some more experimenting with how the call the asm, as register allocation cannot be specified in GNAT ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what happened to it ?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:32 mircea_popescu: ave1 is, i suspect, silently working on gnating things -- which is fine and valuable except for the silently part. there's this tendency of lone wolf scientist to not properly report failures, out of an imaginary saving of time and resources this permits. it must be said that NOTHING could be further from the truth, nothing at all -- there's more to be gained from a properly reported failure to find than out of ten shiny succ
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884619, I worked on arm-ification of the UDP lib, this is done but write up is stuck. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yes, as you have observe the local trash digging critters here in the Oriental Republic are more skittish than the panda vermin.
asciilifeform: nicoleci aint wrong, btw, they'll walk right up to you.
asciilifeform: ( fox is rare here, so the primary reservoir of the virus is instead this )
asciilifeform: 'tis said that in gringolandia there's a steady stream of rabies cases from some derp who hand-feeds 'cute furry' shitpanda
a111: Logged on 2015-02-11 06:58 BingoBoingo: A viewer complained that an episode of the animated children’s series Peppa Pig was inappropriate for an Australian audience because it said that spiders were not to be feared. >> http://about.abc.net.au/complaints/peppa-pig-received/
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 03:35 Mocky: to bring it full circle, I saw one of my grandsons yesterday watching a cartoon about how helpful raccoons are for eating trash so less waste goes to the land fill, and how clean and friendly they are
BingoBoingo: If only there were a way to get the locals to put the reject trash back in the dumpster when they finish mining
Mocky: was hoping to see a russian d00d shoot at them from a window, but no, instead the raccoons went down to the creek after dinner to wash their paws
Mocky: to bring it full circle, I saw one of my grandsons yesterday watching a cartoon about how helpful raccoons are for eating trash so less waste goes to the land fill, and how clean and friendly they are ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( http://bimbo.club/#footnote_6_114 << them )
asciilifeform: coincidentally, i nailed garbage panda #11 today.
Mocky: and number 11 is in the oven
asciilifeform: i suppose if archaeologizing re the latter, oughta start at spartacus..
asciilifeform: there's 'resistance' but then there's 'кто был ничем тот станет всем'(tm)(r), former dun necessarily roll in the latter
mircea_popescu: closer to southern france resistence to growing crown than anything in the derp vein, but why not./
asciilifeform: that sorta thing is always there, somewhere, like polio.
asciilifeform: or hm, who were the derps on mountain fort with 'equalite liberte'...
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 19:24 stratum: Right now, for the billions, I think it is probably better than nothing, just like easily popped household locks.
asciilifeform: stupidity, as mircea_popescu pointed out in the old essay, 'has infinite health'
mircea_popescu: same exact reason preteen boys don't discuss their "sexual conquests" within hearshot of adult woman.
mircea_popescu: what fucking them. the ~pretense~ is entirely based on cheapness. no cheapness, no pretense.
asciilifeform: ( in this case, to make enemy have to sweat to simply determine ~what cryptosystem~ particular key is for.. )
asciilifeform: imho yes. actually using 'we have a comp' for sumthing tangible.
mircea_popescu: finally some actual movement in teh damned horses.
asciilifeform: and this is before you even consider that the plaintext itself can be pcode...
asciilifeform: ( of course it also becomes possible to blow out yer own brains by misconstructing a pubkey, but this is a problem that existed before me and will exist after )
asciilifeform: the problem of even beginning to break, becomes , from empty space, exponential.
asciilifeform: i can picture, for instance, that some folx will have a pubkey where 'well, first you gotta decrypt via these 2 rsa keys, and depending on the low 4 bits of the plaintext, the rest is via 1 of these 4 c-s' or the like.
asciilifeform: it took asciilifeform 2y ( 3, if you count the mpi dead ends ) to build ~that~ deathray. and it's just about ready to fire..
asciilifeform: ( suddenly, 'which of these bigints do we need to try and factor, and which are noise' becomes an open human-powered q ! for'em. )
asciilifeform: it'll be quite a riot, i expect, when the problem for enemy of determining what to do with ~an unknown pubkey~ is suddenly np-hard.
asciilifeform: i.e. that 8192-bit cpu mircea_popescu gedankenexperimented.
asciilifeform: at ~that~ juncture it'll be possible to ~hardwarize~ the thing, into the ultimate (per horse's mouth) usg nightmare.
asciilifeform: ideally , one'll be able to implement any crypto scheme without having to rip into the ada; simply by writing pcode.
asciilifeform: correct. ( i'ma include jacobi operator, after thing is flying in the field, even tho none of the currently popular schemes use it, for instance. )
asciilifeform: right. whole affair is 'what's the most general arithmetron that is also a useful rsatron', from my pov.
mircea_popescu: just note that eucrypt having rsa does in no manner hurt your serpent-only-phonecrypto putative app ; just like it having serpent dun hurt a "this is my pgp implementation" usecase, and so on.
asciilifeform: i'm carrying out mircea_popescu's orig spec, where 'i want a peh key with my rsa modulus that i carved on the mountain' or how it went.
asciilifeform: ( and at any rate we gotta have trad rsa working 1st, before any such side dishes can be considered )
asciilifeform: but this is a diff thread, possibly.
asciilifeform: ( as for the other thing -- much of asciilifeform's oddball 'must work for all integers!' thrust, is on acct of his interest in cryptosystems other than classic rsa, e.g. c-s and variations on theme )
asciilifeform: rather than to hold up orchestra for its gilding.
asciilifeform: upstack, i'ma polish off stein, and see if the lily in fact needs gilding ~after~
mircea_popescu: anyway, nothing wrong with that ffa design choice, if you like it ; if you don't anymore, also not the end of world.