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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: gonna guess it was a 'suicide' rather than suicide
mircea_popescu: "That a public education system could disgorge untold legions of literate, numerate, and motivated graduates is beyond their collective comprehension. How unlucky the Caucasoid races are to have all the kids with learning disabilities."
bitstein: mircea_popescu: Good advice, thanks.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly wrong. indigence is the state of being worthless.
mircea_popescu: one suspects this is what counts for fixing.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, chetty just found a layered bug in the stack eulora uses. one bug prevented the functionality (wrong pointer reference) ; the other bug prevented the previous bug from crashing every single machine all the time.
assbot: ‘Activism’ class at University of Michigan teaches capitalism should be ‘overthrown’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1EQGdWA )
BingoBoingo: It is amusing. Still when it comes time to replace GPG it will look more like https://github.com/tedu/reop than any Moxenslit iPerson thing (except... with RSA support and done in ADA/Common Lisp)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and you know, if you follow the course of events, #1 we went to anti-uspoettering debvian chan
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh that lol. eh, nobody cares.
nubbins`: mildly amusing to see this phoundation push for full nodes after it started being worked on in here
mircea_popescu: at this rate indiancandy1 is getting replaced with madonna on the short term.
mircea_popescu: that b-a drives "biutcoin foundation" policy is not even remarkable. that assets like the marlinspike dood are thrown in the fray to try and prevent a wot based republic however...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BitcoinXT is the hearn foundation Bitcoin fork which has all kinds of features even Gavin rejected because they make nodes incredibly more DoS attackable
mircea_popescu: anyway, the speed at which the entire world seems to be coagulating around us is nothing short of impressive.
nubbins`: today i learned it is legal to sell and serve dog meat in canada
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitstein in a purely ops perspective, it's always a bad idea to link those you disagree with. replace with a link to something you agree to. @moxie knows what he wrote.
BingoBoingo: but, how could the chief scientusk of BitcoinXT be wrong?
mircea_popescu: but that quote is fucking epic.
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:42:59; mats: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9104188 >> mike_hearn "In the world of crypto, where we've learned so much, yes old means bad. Almost always... How many crypto geeks STILL spout rubbish about how the PKI is totally busted and the web of trust is the future? Way too many... The future of encrypted messaging is not GPG."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033125 << what we've learneds is to take the usg party at the opposite of its word. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "wouldja like brainfries with that ?"
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:39:34; lobbes: "Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a glorious experiment that has run its course. The journalists who depend on it struggle with it and often mess up (“I send you the private key to communicate privately, right?”)" << lol, this doesn't sound like a problem with gpg. I'll never understand this 'hard-to-use' argument. Just take an afternoon and learn the fundamentals!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033123 << yes but social media crowd "has no time". somehow they can jump the moment the damned phone blink, but to spend an hour to think quietly with a book ? not possibru. ☝︎
PeterL: add that to the #b-a todo list?
mircea_popescu: (we, of course, which prolly means we're redoing the sks too)
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:34:59; mats: also deliberately misleading folks about widespread use with the quantity of keys on sks keyservers
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033119 << that may not be exactly misleading, it may just be he spoke too early. maybe the plan is to pop the sks system, and if they put a little pressure who exactly is going to stand up to it ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 15:20:03; mircea_popescu: the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local
mircea_popescu: assbot: State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-02-2015#1030497 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 08:49:12; gmaxwell: cazalla: not my taste doesn't necessarily imply an active dislike.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033036 << it implies the awkward situation where he's been an idiot, doesn't know how to beg forgiveness, represents instead that hey, at least claiming /his/ taste is somehow involved. at least that protects ego a little. ☝︎
assbot: Overhead photos of cramped apartments in Hong Kong - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1EQCbgN )
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 08:22:52; gmaxwell: man y'all will get a kick out of the latest foundation lol-event. They have some _utterly_ braindead 'blockchain voting' scheme for their board vote run off (gotta love changing voting infrastructure mid election for election integrity)
mircea_popescu: no, they crush baby bones let them sit for 8 years
NewLiberty: I don't want to know what they did to the tiger to encourage that kind of fortifying
PeterL: they make the wine from crushed bones of 8-yo tigers?
punkman: "The Xionsen Wine Company sells bottles of eight-year-old tiger bone wine, also fortified with tiger penis, for around £200"
assbot: Save the Tiger: The animals bred for bones on China’s tiger farms - Commentators - Voices - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1EQBgwS )
asciilifeform: some non-white colonisation failures << jp got there first
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel that's the plan. it won't work, but anyway.
asciilifeform: best thing to prepare fresh tiger in
gabriel_laddel: they don't have the same sensibilities, being a different people (*gasp*).
asciilifeform: yes, eat them
assbot: Gutter oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EQApfQ )
asciilifeform: recently there was a widely-copied newspaper piece re: tiger farms
gabriel_laddel: it seems to me that if the west would just fuck off and let China have Africa everything will go swimmingly.
asciilifeform: (and attempt plenty of things that can't)
asciilifeform: chinese eat anything that can be digested
gribble: 9 Countries That Eat Cats and Dogs | The Daily Meal: <http://www.thedailymeal.com/9-countries-eat-cats-and-dogs/11414>; Dog meat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat>; Cat meat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_meat>
mircea_popescu: that's how these economies always close.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that you have someone trading you 1 joule of fuel for half joule of electricity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's rather like how you cannot have an engine use more energy for, e.g., alternator, than burning fuel yields
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: back to the cn phactory gurlz, it's an open economic question whether a particular one can physically generate enough wealth to pay for 'carroting' it
mircea_popescu: PeterL tis is rank nonsense, you know.
PeterL: my brother works in the Detroit Public Schools, from his anecdotes I have little hope things will change there.
PeterL: "I have big plans, BIG PLANS!, as mayor I will accomplish AMAZING things, with your help!"
PeterL: you want me to go over to Detroit and organize the populace into something not a worthless mess?
asciilifeform: try the local immigrants
nubbins`: PeterL no doubt. worth noting that "rivaling china for output" is not necessarily a positive
asciilifeform: no need to go to the continent, even
asciilifeform: PeterL: the quickest cure for this notion is to try it
PeterL: nubbins`: I am not saying self-sufficiency, I am saying rivaling china for output. I also have no idea how one would go about doing it, just saying there are lots of people in Africa which could be used as a resource for the right person
asciilifeform: before the change-of-plans.
asciilifeform: this, incidentally, was supposed to happen in crimea
punkman: PeterL: somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized << China's all over it, but they might have to import a billion chinese workers
mircea_popescu: "hey, let's make it into the south pre 1830, then they can be invaded by lincoln v2.0 and have detroit!"
asciilifeform: if instead he drove 'mercedes' - then not so hot.
asciilifeform: the essential ingredient is that your grandfather had to have rotted in the rice.
nubbins`: <+PeterL> somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized <<< surely external help running the show is the path to self sufficiency
asciilifeform: the carrot, as far as i understand, is that it looks like a great deal next to your grandfather's rotting in rice paddy
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't specialize in that shit.
asciilifeform: what's the carrot for sitting at conveyor 12h straight with no toilet break ?
asciilifeform: zek sharashkas is essentially the same thing as where i live now
mircea_popescu: it's been selected for 250k years for suckage. no fixing that.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the problem is : africa is essentially "they who stayed". those always suck.
mircea_popescu: how exactly different from us research you think that is ?
PeterL: somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized
mircea_popescu: otherwise, recall the zek research centers.
mircea_popescu: no, it wouldn't. africa, as unfortunately and politically unpleasant that sounds, probably sucks because genetics.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it were spurious, africa would be the real china
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think this difference is spurious.
asciilifeform: so the 'willing' part is key
asciilifeform: possibly even faster than the ones ordinarily spoken of
asciilifeform: this is, by some indications, a non-renewable resource that's getting burned up rather quickly ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: without toilet breaks
asciilifeform: folks who are still willing to assemble machinery for a penny a day
assbot: Official CaVirtex.com Thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1EQy98g )
mircea_popescu: lol. they have no trees and now cows. think about it.
asciilifeform: but unnoticed in the shadow of the ru match
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you think ?
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 07:05:44; cazalla: mmm home made potato gnocchi with muh tomato/chilli sauce (both from garden) and chorizo.. just missing a beer :\
asciilifeform: china isn't in a deathcage match against rest of the planet trying for 200 yrs. to render its population for fat and to more easily get at the minerals
nubbins`: that's the q
mircea_popescu: heh. so why now then ?
nubbins`: PeterL they knew about the intrusion a year or two ago
mircea_popescu: notice that the us diplomacy is nowhere nearly as inept handling china. arguably russia is more of a threat tho, at least immediately.
nubbins`: which sorta 100% agrees with everyone in #bitcoin-cad, including me, saying we started getting mysterious emails with .jar attachments around this time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is << i actually have a more psychotropic theory. basically, on some subconscious level, us knows it's become uss. and what it wants is, the validation of "well i didn't do anything useful, but at least the stupid thing i did i did WELL". this to be obtained, in the way such nonsense works, by confronting the symbolic representative thereof and "winning".
jurov: but some day i can see them going "financial service? yea we got some regulation for you"