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asciilifeform: usg is running on two centuries of plunder and exuberant technowankery, from which, granted, only fumes remain in the tank
asciilifeform: to run with the analogy, she's the 'fat kid with rich father'
decimation: note that usg only gains superpowers when she's trying to conduct a worldwide coordinated deception
mircea_popescu: except... she's a dumb 13 yo with barel yany tits, that nobody but you would even notice.
mircea_popescu: you think it does, because to your starstruck eyes this 13 yo girl is like ... madonna.
mircea_popescu: 13yo girls don't normally take that sorta footage.
mircea_popescu: is your argument going to be that "unless it shows her naked fucking a satellite it's not truely a diary" ?
asciilifeform: rather than just disfiguring
asciilifeform: could go on, but i'm not a novelist, just trying to make a point
asciilifeform: or the locations of all x,xxx nato arms caches in ru and eastern eu
asciilifeform: or, going back to more familiar ground, the microcode update key perma-baked into all intel cpu since '95
asciilifeform: something from which no recovery is possible, any more than from shooting self in the head with a 'stinger'
asciilifeform: essentially, something so utterly catastrophic to usg that it could not possibly be a hangout ☟︎
asciilifeform: as insinuated in that cryptome thing (pretty good yarn, recommended)
asciilifeform: what'd count as a -real, indisputable- usg leak? example: info leading to perma-pwn of a whole constellation (hell, why not all of them) of usg orbiting junk
decimation: the journalists are made to look like buffoons
asciilifeform: get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible << this is right back to the 64-quadrillion-bzollar question. the dept-of-breaking-pgp gets $maxint and remains totally secret - not to say that they've succeeded or even tried, but we have no idea how much cocaine they were able to buy with the $maxint, nor the carat purity of the gold of which their toilets were made
mircea_popescu: you can't get the budget high enough without making secrecy impossible.
mircea_popescu: what you propose (a forced meme film that is secretly made) can not be done. period.
mircea_popescu: well, i'm not the king of tinseltown, however, on the grounds of my cursory familiarty with the topic of making movies (ie, being a producer),
asciilifeform confesses to having only a very basic familiarity with the subject
mircea_popescu: actually they aren't. tax deductions abound.
mircea_popescu: the major difference here being that your example is some kids having fun, my example is some idiot trying to force a meme.
asciilifeform never sure if ever to believe these figures as they are traditionally ultra-lowballed for tax purposes
mircea_popescu: and i dunno how truthy clerks looked to you ?
assbot: I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell (2009) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1wwiLia )
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/ << watch this. srsly. that's 10mn.
mircea_popescu: to get an idea of what 10mn buys you, check out tucker max' film.
mircea_popescu: just look at the crud that gets released. and that's on "normal" topics, girl meets boy or w/e.
mircea_popescu: dude, they can't even make a film looking credible on 100mn.
asciilifeform did not see the film, but will say that he could probably produce a 'snowden' film with an arbitrarily high degree of 'truthiness' given a few $10M-usd
decimation: re: snowden film : he seems pretty genuine to me
asciilifeform: (who said it had to be the sea)
asciilifeform: but basic point is that machine doesn't just cost what machine costs, but some actuarial numbers based on what the corpses' legal reps are likely to attempt/achieve
asciilifeform unsurprised, recalls a list of similar gotchas that added up to 'give us money because you're retarded'
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 02:56:12; asciilifeform: where only some piddling 300 life insurance policies have to be paid out
asciilifeform: what does ben_vulpes do with his apple boxen? just throws them out when disk fills ?
asciilifeform only opened it because had an ssd from visually identical machine of the same make, which turned out to be incompatible.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 01:51:12; trinque: ^ demo
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035767 << could the command be less verbose ? no : and no add- whatever. make it like deedbot- deed http://etc ☝︎
asciilifeform - as ben_vulpes will be entertained to learn - just opened a 'macbook air' in dire need of a modern-sized drive to discover that said box made use of an obscure type of disk interface previously unknown to him, with aftermarket units only available from cn
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:51:31; mike_c: ^ 200 satoshis is worth less than an ad view at $2 cpm
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035740 << the power of bitcoin decimal depth. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well im not really THAT into it, but i recall part of the eu assumption conditions was "no territorial disputes and no unresolved conflicts"
asciilifeform: so whole line of thought goes nowhere
asciilifeform: otoh the original war was never declared, iirc
asciilifeform: ^ could co-exist with a technically unfinished state of war
mircea_popescu: for every 10 bux of this there's 100 bux of "we got raped and had to pay the rapist for his cab fare"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now -that's- interesting. got a link to the treaty ?
asciilifeform: platinum-iridium toilet
asciilifeform: ^ these folks are -still- making it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure. the thing about them orders and dynasties is... they do not work.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 00:12:16; asciilifeform: iirc sp technically never made peace with ru.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1035693 << they did when they went into eu ☝︎
asciilifeform: because, in a well-cultivated sc4mz0r0cr4cy with multigenerational rackets, there is usually an established pecking order
asciilifeform: but sometimes - there is.
mircea_popescu: if you ask the slut, often enough it's because "he's the only one that asked, and i was getting bored" ☟︎
asciilifeform: not even always this level of answer
mircea_popescu: "why does this guy take the slut home and not some other ?"
asciilifeform: not always there is a logical answer, granted
asciilifeform: thing is, with scam, the question is always 'why does this fella get to run this scam and not some other'
mircea_popescu: that pellet of usd that htey lost in iraq, that went to the arabs more than to the pansy ass sons of - sons of whom anyway ? patreus ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would guess that the successful instances of actual merit wash, as opposed to usg being straight scammed, to be under 10%.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:59:53; Stunna: The amount given away is pretty minimal due to botters
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035660 << kinda the problem with giveaways : they attract exactly the scum, those you specifically do not want to deal with. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no, the govt itself.
asciilifeform: in any given instance of meritwash, somebody's being chumped (various folks who swallow the snake oil)
mircea_popescu: obviously they'd operate on a (being scammed) to (merit washing) continuum. it won't be either 0% or 100%.
mircea_popescu: or is one special among all the idiot bureaucracies for reasons (tm)
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 23:29:14; cazalla: for anyone that recalls shrem's attempt to lure investors into a scheme last month.. it already shut.. weeks ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=906838.msg10370543#msg10370543
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035617 << i appreciate the .1 lulz. ☝︎
asciilifeform: even usg, in the not too distant past, did this
asciilifeform: outside of usg - rules different, sure; foreigners invited to work their magic
mircea_popescu: the heamul project one. you recall, generalissimo peron was going to get cold fusion going.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 20:45:01; ascii_field: the racket is open to 'favourite sons' exclusively.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2015#1035594 << would you say the same of the original richter ? he was an immigrant. ☝︎
trinque: perhaps if they fought each other for social position
trinque: asciilifeform: less wolf than social insect though isn't it?
trinque: we are certainly not grazing animals, nor should we behave like them
asciilifeform is firm believer in 'war is the father of all' (TM)
trinque: that is true
asciilifeform: weather doesn't plan to kill you.
trinque: I tend to pine for some period of harsh weather and natural disasters as yeah, training wheels
asciilifeform: try the ice cap training wheels first.
trinque: I think we'll benefit greatly from the hostility of space
asciilifeform: king, if he has any sense, begins with 'i want a tetris and underlying stack that doesn't crash, and if it does, you+extended family get intimate with anthills'
trinque: everyone's making app things
trinque: asciilifeform: we just need to take on problems with actual risk
BingoBoingo: Clear subtext of final 10 minutes is that aspiring Snowden 2.0 ended dead or on anthill
asciilifeform: how would you engineer if every morning you got to see a colleague slowly lowered into a piraña tank for having made a mistake ?
BingoBoingo: Obummer specificaly indicted several times
asciilifeform: as in, how would you engineer if, were your creations to fail, everything you have ever loved will be tortured and killed by nazi cannibals for the rest of eternity; every truth you hold dear will be buried and never seen again, etc, etc
asciilifeform: this is merely a hypothesis in my mind, i'm putting it here for others to ponder.
asciilifeform: and another where the rocket actually gets flown on occasion
asciilifeform: one, academia, where they spew obscurantist haskellian garbage that serves solely to make perpetrators 'look smart' and pull each other's cocks;
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 02:58:15; asciilifeform: the entire field, giving its history and monetary incentives, is a poisonous offering.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506836 << example of me vomiting at proof-of-anything. but it seems to me now that there were not one but two usg 'monasteries' where the concept was developed ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the result 'fits in head'
asciilifeform: but something that looks more like a programming lang you might've learned as a kid.
asciilifeform: but still light-years ahead of just-winging-it-in-c, so long as the required 'furniture' isn't fifty pounds of fetid haskellian squigglies printed on telephone book paper