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mircea_popescu: <jurov> that's what D.CBSE price implies << actually, no, the price implies they can't sell for over 350k btc at the time they sell.
mircea_popescu: just because of btc/usd vagaries, the original investment (which happened at 1200) lost 85% of its value.
jurov: yes, dilutive.. on other side, it increased the number of people interested to inflate it beyond all reason and then release it
mircea_popescu: <jurov> you don't believe they can IPO it at > 46 million? << you realise this round was utterly dillutive right ?
jurov: i dunno, just asking. and don't want to tie more bitcoins for indeterminate time in D.CBSE, either.
jurov: yes, maybe they want just to drive it to the ground
thestringpuller: you do bring up good question tho: what is the bezzle investors endgame (or what they have in mind at least)?
thestringpuller: jurov: what if the bezzle investors don't care tho?
jurov: imo they can't afford to wait either
thestringpuller: risky cause who knows if they ever IPO...
jurov: and i'm curious why mircea thinks that won't ever happen
jurov: For D.CBSE long investment to be even, it needs "only" $46m IPO or buyout
thestringpuller: so early investors can exit cleanly, aka the FB IPO scam.
thestringpuller: they'd have to raise more than their "implied valuation" right? like 100 mn+ ?
jurov: so if they manage to IPO coinbase, it can raise so much, no?
thestringpuller: jurov: haven't they raised in the 100's of mn?
jurov: you don't believe they can IPO it at > 46 million?
thestringpuller: jurov: attractive to short?
cazalla: i think BingoBoingo wrote that up if memory serves
cazalla: jurov, yeah that's old news now
jurov: The total raised by Coinbase has now hit $106 million. Coinbase, a San Francisco-based company reports that there are 2.1 million bitcoin wallets from a customer base of 1.9 million
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
jurov: btw have you seen the "nyse to invest to CBSE" tidbit?
assbot: Silbert's BIT To Trade On Pink Sheets | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1M0RMNn )
thestringpuller: i see "You have 1 new twitter mention" on my phone
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gorgeous diagrams. thank you.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: homo redditicus << can I use this in future qntra articles?
ben_vulpes: there's no reason why these things should cost $MAXINT, aside from the prohibition on owning the constituent materials for any not favorite son.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "igla" << why must you torture me
mircea_popescu: i see the guy's been pouring out a coupla million words, which is more than moldbug, but i won't be bothering to actually read the shit, it's too stale.
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 15:38:39; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu with regard to the 'abuse of statistical devices' outlined in note iii, the accomplished master of the art is a fellow named yudkowsky (search #b-a log). he isn't an idiot, bastard knows exactly what he's doing, and his cult is a veritable vacuum trap for thinking folks
mircea_popescu: anyway. if there's anyone who actually had the patience ot read all this stuff and wishes to proffer a summary please do.
mircea_popescu: imagine the horror of this. "i invented a machine which lets you live on for a billion years, so you can write stupid shit so that stupid people keep on powering it"
mircea_popescu: "why are you spending your time with cockroaches ?" "i kill them" "yes. but you're still spending time with them."
mircea_popescu: besides the point.,
asciilifeform: ancient device of immortality 'jam tomorrow' promise
mircea_popescu: why are all these driven nuts so mentally simple anyway ?
mircea_popescu: lmao this fucktard.
mircea_popescu: al ability to see through time. But death is a great evil, and I will oppose it whenever I can. If I could create a world where people lived forever, or at the very least a few billion years, I would do so."
mircea_popescu: Transhumanists are not fond of death. We would stop it if we could. To this end we support research that holds out hope of a future in which humanity has defeated death. Death is an extremely difficult technical problem, to be attacked with biotech and nanotech and other technological means. I do not tell a tale of the land called Future, nor state as a fact that humanity will someday be free of death - I have no magic
cazalla: problem with playing D2 from australia was that you could still only get dialup and it was better to play on a fake battle.net hosted at your isp
cazalla: it's one thing they did really well but i think poe made it more noob friendly
thestringpuller: baal runs made it easy to get that XP
cazalla: i tried to sell orbs for btc in poe 2 years ago but noone had heard of bitcoin except 1 guy
thestringpuller: but srsly soj economy was so annoying. the rune economy was a bit better
cazalla: for anyone that has not played it, orbs act a little similar to soj economy, but unlike d2, poe did away with gold drops and crap like that, pure barter system
cazalla: punkman: re: path of exile, i like that the economy is based around orbs (at least it was when i was playing) but i quit after my hardcore char died in lower 90s
assbot: Physical Examination of the Vulva, Vagina and Cervix in the Mare - Towcester Equine Clinic - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Drgyl5 )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://portal.tpu.ru/files/departments/publish/VK_AkylovBaydakovVasiliev.pdf << even if you don't know ru, you may find this interesting for the diagrams. use and engineering manual to famous ru 'igla' ('needle') rocket.
mircea_popescu: and once i get my hands around their throats, the "facts" will be slightly divers.
mircea_popescu: and so are plenty of other things. the guardian and washpo and the rest of the buzzfeed carrion crawlers aren't up there because they favorably compete with qntra on some sort of machine basis
mircea_popescu: but seriously, wikipedia is returned because "fact:wikipedia is what we promote" rather than any "algorithmics" ☟︎
chetty: <mircea_popescu> chetty this has been going on for a while actually.//it just sounds worse when the internet is a public utility
thestringpuller: ^- didn't he end up eating green eggs and ham at the end of the book?
mircea_popescu: chetty this has been going on for a while actually.
assbot: Google wants to rank websites based on facts not links - 28 February 2015 - New Scientist ... ( http://bit.ly/1DrcfGl )
asciilifeform: *molecular 'propellers' that is
asciilifeform: idea being, 'me: if gravity has chiral component, consider two propellers glued back to back as 'barbell'. ought to rotate in a particular direction depending on orientation. align using electromagnetic means, infer angular momenta' al: 'here's how'
mircea_popescu: but back to the story : if your call on the y fellow is correct, he makes for an absoluely perfect model of "chemistry usg".
asciilifeform: but rather the feedstock for the spectroscopic test.
asciilifeform: i did emphatically did -not- invent or design the calorimetric test
mircea_popescu: people have to fucking realise, for once in their life, that a_) fuck them and b) it's not about what they want.
mircea_popescu: this is the cornerstone.
asciilifeform: he wants to be in the wot of the folks with the machine
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not how this works.
mircea_popescu: well... stfu and get in the wot. nobody, NOBODY is above the intern work for a year.
asciilifeform: the thing's been there since mid '90s
mircea_popescu: in this perspective, al's lament reduces to tim sweeney's lament. "oh woe that not being in the wot my ideas hold no value"
mircea_popescu: like you know, all the other blogs.
asciilifeform: these figures living, as they do, in 'forked worlds'
mircea_popescu: right. and here the same : paste your text as a "review", or publish it on your blog.
asciilifeform: the way al saw his situation, there are precisely two choices for him - usg and its apparatchiks, and the world of unfiltered and unfundable idiot alchemists, astrologers, 'phree energy' imbeciles, and other usenet denizens which he spent all of the '90s recreationally hunting for sport
mircea_popescu: i have no guarantee that this goes into the... canon, or w/e, fanon-type-45345
asciilifeform: because, in his mind, there is no place to go
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the foibles of al slightly differently. more as a failure to intellectually detach from usg
mircea_popescu: so asciilifeform, do you see how the situation here maps exactly on the uncle al and the magical molecule situation ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2015#1022584 << So what is the "value" of interns? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so ima have two things out of this. first an arguent with alf, then once laddel and the rest of the proponents of "intelligence" wake up, ima have one with them.
jurov: ah, that too
asciilifeform: we did yudkowsky here at least five times, iirc
mircea_popescu: jurov what is this anyway ? i thought some woman wrote harry potter ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if interested in this subject, read - at least that - thread
thestringpuller: I do wonder if we'll ever be able to print IC's without being millionaires or wholesalers.
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2015 18:03:08; asciilifeform: it does no good to take extant ic fab practice and work 'down'
thestringpuller: i have pondered the same thing myself
asciilifeform: that is to say, with the ability to arrange arbitrary logical elements
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: thread was re: whether and how one could build a reasonable computer without access to ic fab or the output of one
asciilifeform: discussed in last week's thread.
asciilifeform: anyway, posted here solely for the photos of 'what if we just had very small transistors and planted them down on very fine pcb'
asciilifeform: the timer appears, on cursory reading, to be a clone of the universally known '555'
thestringpuller: Full adders are cooler than half adders
asciilifeform: correction: first device pictured is a timer. second - half adder
asciilifeform: also notice the em cage around the package.
asciilifeform: compared to american ic of the modern type, of that period
asciilifeform: one can safely guess that it was pants-creamingly cheap
asciilifeform: i should like to learn how these were assembled.
asciilifeform: if one were to read the data sheet (scan, http://www.155la3.ru/datafiles/2lb402_tu_1975.pdf ) will find that it had around 50-60 nSec propagation delay. which is pretty good for the period
asciilifeform: for some reason the theft of several examples of these curios by usg from sunken submarine is still considered a deep secret in usa
mircea_popescu: i saw that kinda flea market
asciilifeform: when i was a boy, these were being sold, laid on carpets in the town market, right next to rabbits and dogs