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mod6: v5.20.2 for x86_64-linux
phf: libc++abi.dylib: terminating with uncaught exception of type std::runtime_error: Shiva: failed to read init file!
jurov: with my `cwd` problem yest, looks like i have ran into http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=304587 :(
assbot: Joseph (@Joseph_Young_) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1owaasp )
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/Joseph_Young_ << literally philippino
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, i dunno what the deal is with it, seems to not work exactly as expected.
phf: ben_vulpes: they are like md5 and sha1
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's javascript also doesn't work in every browser
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 16:07:32; mircea_popescu: there's been this weirdo trend of (mostly anglo) girls getting worried about their labia minora being "wrong", mostly on account of thgere being a LOT of natural variation on that score, and anglo chicks being all weird and insecure and sexually inexperienced. plus of course the crazed marketing society, that feeds into all of the above.
assbot: shiva_hooks.patch · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/20NR2ma )
asciilifeform: and what is this ? >> https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/f5c5b02a2ce7c1a69c77#file-shiva_hooks-patch-L142
asciilifeform: why reverse_in_place, mk_list, marshall, etc. in cpp ?
assbot: shiva_hooks.patch · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/20NQyMF )
asciilifeform: i suppose if mircea_popescu tells me that it is standard, i will believe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a misconception, in this case. weigh my tinyscheme vs gnudiff!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if this was not clear, there is not presently any such thing as turing-complete diff/patch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a continuation of a thread almost as old as 'v' - consider the tinyscheme-genesis patch, shiva, and the 'pedigree bridge'
mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/f6b4810f7b7499277a3b9424f2aeac37/tumblr_mveinsoBEr1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> that bet is going to surprise some people << "overall" covers it imo
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/698748328511696896/tHcNra2H_400x400.png << that's a pretty cool album cover lol.
mircea_popescu: but in other news, chores! http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8h21v0J8e1rcdktuo1_1280.jpg
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 04:11:48; ben_vulpes: if asciilifeform hadn't already declared himself to not touch anything that brought anything down from the net he'd be complaining about all of the above as well
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> go take a vacation dood << this is not a solution.
gernika: ben_vulpes: 1.4.19
phf: ben_vulpes: that's what all v's do, but we also have this auxiliary operations before the press that require calling gpg --verify
mod6: ben_vulpes: can you identify why this is an issue?
gernika: ben_vulpes: yes
gernika: mod6 I'm stuck on the pgp issue ben_vulpes encountered. http://dpaste.com/2X6BDH8
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm not quite sure what to attach and where
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 20:41:35; ben_vulpes: mod6: i am *still* getting this with build-bitcoin-v99995.sh: gpg: WARNING: not a detached signature; file 'buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in further "ceos agree to consensus" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/78e51e7943aeb41817550b062441658a/tumblr_mw86rci4tK1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's soliders painted quite a lot of grass fields green, and snowmen - white, didn't they.
gribble: Object 279 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_279>; Object 279 - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es4Hy9VNDAc>; Object 279 Soviet Havy Tank [HD]-2014 - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjgNWD5DrNA>
mircea_popescu: and in other interludes, http://36.media.tumblr.com/3b4fae10722803dac39d2d562407d9a0/tumblr_mkh2jfIHgw1r6qz9zo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu want it to be finished, and replace the idiot rpc ?
asciilifeform: my point was that mircea_popescu is asking 'the tank must be 1,000 tonnes! because fuckyou' but from where comes the engine ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say we do things precisely as you described. and tomorrow i publish a patch. now everyone who wants to test it, cannot apply it at all unless he is willing to use my tree wholesale. instead he has to MANUALLY merge it in, line by line. and then i end up back-and-forth-ing over his typos for the next month, instead of doing ANYTHING else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't seem to give the least damn about sweat, so long as it is not off his own back. 'who cares how many zeks it takes to build belomor canal' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 2) what if he wants, e.g., a mod6+ben_vulpes tree. << in general it's to be expected you'd see a lot of replication of code.
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:25:16; mircea_popescu: the important parts here being that v does away with the concept of developer control over code ; and with the concept of code ownership ; and instead introduces the concept of signature-driven responsibility.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it is a thing that mircea_popescu considers sinful ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a centralized thing! that an idiot one day could get to the wheel of !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a defensible perspective but it leaves me wondering wtf you were doing when founded a trb foundation ! a throne omg!!1111111
asciilifeform: that is, if we end up in the position where every developer has own tree, and mircea_popescu is not content to go, e.g., 'gimme what mod6 has' - then ~mircea_popescu~ will have to 'toil and trouble' and hand-merge ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 21:52:20; mircea_popescu: the idea is to have diverse coder process, and a lot of fuckign toi land trouble on tghe coders, for maximal output quality.\
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-02-2016#1411126 << does mircea_popescu fully understand that there is NO MACHINE MERGING in v ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:22:12; mircea_popescu: people in the senate floor of the most serene republic notice the silly things the kids are doing in bed these days and lo! ben_vulpes signs it, which makes that snipped suddenly go into a bunch of servers.
asciilifeform: 2) what if he wants, e.g., a mod6+ben_vulpes tree.
asciilifeform: now, this makes life very easy for mircea_popescu, or so he thinks, because he can go 'i want a mod6 tree'
asciilifeform: and tentatively conclude that mircea_popescu wants everybody to have own vtree
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 23:02:29; mircea_popescu: nobody is to use AntPool, A-XBT, Bitfinex, BitFury, Bitmain, BIT-X Exchange, Blockcloud, BTCC, Coinfloor, F2Pool, HaoBTC, Ledger, LIGHTNINGASIC & BitExchange, OKCoin or Spondoolies-Tech for any purpose under any circumstances, or ever hire anyone who ever worked there.
mod6: <ben_vulpes> b-b-...5.sh works fine on something approaching a sane computer << ok cool!
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Gotta keep them straight. What if you must leave America's hat for the malarial side of the ocean?
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 01:24:01; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ever see film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605 ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol no i do not
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you recall the mjr guy or what's his name was here trying to mealy mouthedly take the temperature re bitfinex last time they did a scam cycle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody stops mircea_popescu from living in a private universe.
phf: ben_vulpes: i went derp, or that's some other phil?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wait, were you at c1 and i forget ?!
asciilifeform: we know that mircea_popescu likes beating, but you will not make a horse fly by extra-strong beating
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:26:08; mircea_popescu: and you may NEVER say to any user "your program is not working correctly because you've not given tyhe developer enough control over it". this is anathema, and the source of the "llvm-ization" comment.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i suppose he just ended up in the wrong "have a catered lunch on us" line.
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:33:29; mircea_popescu: but it can't be what it is today, "please update your autoupdater now!"
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.pgp.-1:03a52b052a85fd5c2db64a8c3c246194af63db19e1c77048045f7077602e6f15
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.petertodd.-1:6215861df810e25c971f9be4c49a19e89ca1076647faa992dc03014663b0e207
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.bluematt.-1:e5351e13fcfcf737a1944692afd5b18ff3da8f9f5ab758e6dc9ab246f4ecbbe1
phf: "i, ordained computron mircea lifeform, in the year of our republic 1932, having devoted three months to the verification of checksums, with my heart pure and my press clean, sit down to transcribe vee patch ascii_limits_hack, signed by the illustrious asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and all saints." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: people in the senate floor of the most serene republic notice the silly things the kids are doing in bed these days and lo! ben_vulpes signs it, which makes that snipped suddenly go into a bunch of servers. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: actually ben_vulpes it occurs to me, maybe the following description of final state is helpful :
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu. I'm doing my best -- I need to get us in a non-disjointed situation, hence the self-imposed deadline here.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yup
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well i dunno how to better approach this. how about you construct syllogisms and we see where it takes us ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i've been sitting here trying to get this in saner terms.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's what i said.
ben_vulpes: perhaps i am laboring under the misapprehension that v should be useful for something other than putting software on mircea_popescu's box
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no fucking list of anything. genesis item and wot.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not a list of patches a list of *leaves*
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 05:22:12; mircea_popescu: punkman well, let's see what the others say. i faintly dislike the idea on morale grounds, but it's not the end of the world
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only if "actual test cycles" only means "#b-a test cycles"
mod6: ben_vulpes: yah, and when you're testing in production, this can't be a thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes really ? i thought it was pretty fast for an actual test cycle ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 20:07:06; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you still have to specify the patch set
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 20:03:57; asciilifeform: but the main thing is, i'm now inclined to agree with mircea_popescu : pressing 'to head X' is ill-specified.
mod6: "LC_ALL=C LANG=C"
jurov: mircea_popescu: why are you telling me that?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but the main thing is, i'm now inclined to agree with mircea_popescu : pressing 'to head X' is ill-specified. << ok but how should this work
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes aha ?
mod6: ben_vulpes: ok. lemme check on mine.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://45.media.tumblr.com/d94a622dacfd972d5214c5bc590c8d46/tumblr_nnwbfyaOd41tpspkgo1_500.gif
mod6: ben_vulpes: are you saying that it doesn't work? or that it was just that you didn't have whatever rando guys' key in your keyring?
mod6: ben_vulpes, shinohai, jurov
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no i did not go into each idiocy in depth
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 19:04:49; ben_vulpes: "what it takes 6 months to train a barista from nothing, and 6 months to make a useful process tech!"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'd expect an entirely different error should that have been the case
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: do you have buildroot dood's dsa sig in your gpg keyring ?
asciilifeform: i wrote v because mircea_popescu and hanbot cried
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that would work
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: do you want the motherfuckng db lock fix omitted from your build?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: breaks parallel leaves
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you still have to specify the patch set ☟︎