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thestringpuller: i thought even windows and nt were "stolen"
thestringpuller: i can't bring myself to hate on DOS
asciilifeform: ran in protected mode, too, using no actual msdos api
mircea_popescu: lol mats made 60% bringing his losses to only 60%.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what's that got to do with microshit?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i love old microshit tho. found a copy of 3d studio R1 from 1990, and it runs on ms dos
decimation: wasn't it well known that microsoft stole the bsd IP stack for windows NT?
asciilifeform: which is as it ought to be
asciilifeform: microshit wasn't at the table
asciilifeform: and i think i'm the only one actually talking about it, for the most part
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: because there is not actually an alternative to ada
thestringpuller: 2 beers in and a few exercises this is not bad .jpeg
asciilifeform: decimation: i did not test on any closed-source compiler because they don't exist on the planet i choose to live on
asciilifeform: decimation: i tested on both available compilers, the foundation's and the gnu
mircea_popescu is mildly offended at this "i will persist in being a redditard" attitude, for the record.
mircea_popescu: "18* adlai wonders what evidence you're expecting to see of the auctions" << complete misstatement of the situaiton. read the logs. search for "foia" might help
decimation: asciilifeform: the wisdom I've picked up from my own experiments and reading about yours is that it seems the ada compiler you choose is critical
mircea_popescu: it's plain obvious she's the democrat candidate.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:51:43; jurov: thestringpuller that's exactly what i do have in mind
asciilifeform: i assumed he likes dead tree
asciilifeform: decimation: they are
decimation: aren't those all published on the internet?
asciilifeform: or rather, they both have it
asciilifeform: that's the one with chapter & verse
asciilifeform: get the 'rationale' too
danielpbarron: ah apparently i got the 2005 one
assbot: Amazon.com: Ada 2005 Reference Manual. Language and Standard Libraries: International Standard ISO/IEC 8652/1995(E) with Technical Corrigendum 1 and Amendment 1 ... / Programming and Software Engineering) (9783540693352): S. Tucker Taft, Robert A. Duff, Randall L. Brukardt, Erhard Ploedereder, Pasca ... ( http://bit.ly/1BdeOgX )
mats: yes, thats the downside to having imperfect information
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: there are four adas - 83, 95, 2005, 2012
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i searched for the code you mentioned in here, and yeah it says 95 in the title or whatever
danielpbarron: mats, so your "gains" were really just you helping out the fiat traders / at least it beat buying bitcoin and doing nothing with it
asciilifeform: at the earliest
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: make sure it describes at least the '95' variant
danielpbarron: i found a used one for 60 USD (the new is twice that) and impulsively added it to another order i had pending
danielpbarron: mats, was 60% enough to make up for the drop in USD/BTC price?
asciilifeform: all serious technical docs 'written for the ages' ought to be in that format.
danielpbarron: sounds like the book is timeless or something / probably a good investment
danielpbarron: not sure what i was thinking except that i like the chapter:verse thing
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you will have a real bitch of a time learning the language from the standard and justification docs, if that's what you were thinking of doing
mats: i managed to make ~60% ROI in the 13 months ive had a coinbr account
asciilifeform: (both numbers refer to stripped elf's on an x86-64 box)
asciilifeform: but you can see how this cheats.
danielpbarron: i ordered that "bible" you mentioned
asciilifeform: for some reason nobody mentioned the ugliest thing about ada
adlai: it's a problem, the people who frequent such yardsales probably like hanging around the yard
pete_dushenski: so barring that much braindamage in a single vessle, we should see silbert or whoever packing their bags for rio de janeiro
pete_dushenski: otherwise, wtf is wrong with their heads.
pete_dushenski: and since osama is basically the usg's religious messiah, come to save it from internal destruction by providing an external enemy, why not make a whole church service around him
pete_dushenski: like the wooly mammoth
pete_dushenski: to taste, yes
asciilifeform: or the body
adlai wonders what evidence you're expecting to see of the auctions
pete_dushenski: actually, osama's body is much like these usms auctions
pete_dushenski: that's the secret
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> which is why the democrats have alternatives. because she's not running. << implying she might run in 8 years?
pete_dushenski: might as well make an interesting ballot pairing of two people noone has ever heard of
cazalla: pete_dushenski, pretty sure she can't announce nomination until such and such a date.. part of what made the bitbet bet's that clinton and rand would announce last year an easy win
pete_dushenski: dems might take even longer shot because ya, doesn't much matter.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu and i'd still bet a nickel on the republicans
asciilifeform: it's a very long road (or so they think) to hitler's bunker and 'headsoff.com' being filmed on washington streets
asciilifeform: they don't care if they win a war, lose a war, here&there
mircea_popescu: which is why the democrats have alternatives. because she's not running.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: point was that these folks live in a perverse sandbox world where it literally doesn't matter what happens
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ? << a good reason to use usg mailservers and own your keys
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not my country, whadda i care. she's still the only not braidamaged runner so far.
pete_dushenski: is hillary exempt from this ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i seem to recall you saying something to the effect of 'old women in power are the fucking worst'
mircea_popescu: the other obama is not really qualified to run kim's shoe boutique.
asciilifeform: don't forget the other obama
mircea_popescu: she's definitely the more intellectually capable husk they got floating around. who else, jeb, bush's retarded brother/cousin/sister in law ?
pete_dushenski: well, clinton isn't the wtc
asciilifeform: it'll be like the 9/11 crap.
asciilifeform: 'respectable' mouthpieces won't touch the subject
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ?
asciilifeform: if tomorrow we get a 'leaked' clinton email where clitler reveals that she is medusa and can kill with headsnakes - what will change ?
asciilifeform: because, to the extent is valuable - nonattributable
asciilifeform: clinton, etc. don't expect to lose anything if it gets out
asciilifeform: exactly the same way btc tx travels in plaintext
mircea_popescu: derp. emails still travel in plaintext, and this is the sigint we get ?
mircea_popescu: "The development on Capitol Hill came the same day The Associated Press reported the existence of a personal email server traced back to the Chappaqua, New York, home of Clinton. The unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official running her own email server would have given Clinton — who is expected to run for president in the 2016 campaign — significant control over limiting access to her message archives."
mircea_popescu: the blockchain is not an evidentiary record for third parties.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:54; mike_c: seems there ought to be some reasonable blockchain evidence one way or the other. don't we know the ulbricht address in question?
mircea_popescu: sure, it's "not been 100% proven as a scam". this however isn't the criteria. you lie, you get caught, you're fucked.
mircea_popescu: which they ignored.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the onus is not on observers to explain the usg. the usg made some claims, which were in due time proven false.
mircea_popescu: coins move all the time.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly identical to bfl delivering miners, with USMS playing the role of inaba.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:00; mike_c: i understand the theory :) I don't get the basis.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2015#1043160 << the basis is that they made some claims, about selling coins, and then failed to deliver on the coiuns they alleged to sell. ☝︎
mike_c: but the coins are moving. how does that work?
asciilifeform: nsa, the fed, the nameless ones (tm), et al - are not run by the pheminist antinazi wtf crowd.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:01:23; mike_c: There isn't much doubt that they took ulbricht's coins, right?
asciilifeform: thinking of the still-living flesh now, not the gangrenous
mircea_popescu: a tad late for that show.
mircea_popescu: it's the exact equivalent of german kids that are "anti nazi". orly ?
mircea_popescu: the very notion that the us has any sort of purpose, not even conscious or expressible, but any sort whatsoever is ridiculous on its face. it has all the purpose of a shambling headless zombie. which is why they're stuck trying to invent nonsense, "women and gayz! anti pedo!!" etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and 'loves' the delicious flesh.
asciilifeform: didn't say it would happen, but the allure is irresistible to them
mircea_popescu: that's a generous problem to solve, seeing how the part that'll ever get solved was never not solved, and the rest isn't happening.
asciilifeform: they want to solve the problem of turning man into livestock