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diana_coman: what is
the duration of
this update cycle or what is it exactly?
mircea_popescu: on a long enough
timeline
the unlikely becomes certainty\
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'd hope it's on acct of it being inside
the most recent update cycle. ( BingoBoingo ? ) <<
This assessment of local liquidity is indeed
the latest update cycle, but local liquidity has been growing over
the past month.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, on a side note,
that iii footnote is funny now "and while it is entirely possible someone strikes a multi-BTC jackpot, it is not altogether very likely"
diana_coman: ugh, why is pizarro's
tech finding out
this only now!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well for
the most part, I have a bank account. We've been doing
the fiat auctions, and one of
the localbitcoins
traders has grown his ablity
to handle larger conversions as he's gone full
time working his bicycle based currency exchange. So far
this can meet our near
term needs.
diana_coman: yes! I was basically waiting for something like
that as a minimum re promised writeup review
diana_coman: and for
that matter what is in
the pipe
to add more
to
that db , anyway?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, but how *many* accounts did you message out of how many in
the db, over what
time, what filter(s) did you use and with what results?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did you ever
tell how ? or proprietary sauce ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We can do bitcoin
to fiat.
That is largely solved.
mircea_popescu: did you get
the bitcoin->fiat
thing going ? bank accounts, all
that jazz ?
BingoBoingo: to work on
the Pizarro marketing problem. Recently
there have been some promising contacts from marketing efforts, but I haven't been converting yet.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> how do you see
that working before pizarro starves? << I worry.
The more I
think about
the marketing and
trying
to make a plan for marketing I worry. I am in
the unhappy position of being out of my depth on
the marketing problem, repeating my concerns about my lack of marketing prowess,
trying
to apply advice as I can while juggling other concerns, and not getting any feedback on incentives
that can bring other people in
diana_coman: and in any case it'd be at best avoiding
the problem rather
than solving it so more agony down
the line in all likelihood
mircea_popescu: generally, bodily parts
to be used
the ~other~ direction.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i never heard of a body
that
thrived by eating its fingers, no.
diana_coman: could pizarro even get in
the green just by reducing
the pipe? sharing rack sounds more like killing pizarro by definition
BingoBoingo: If
the marketing can't start catching fish. On
this point I am working on a response
to diana_coman.
The short of it is I want help, and I want
to know what kind of incentive can bring in some hands
to help with marketing.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's
the problem of what happens in March-April when
that runs out.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:55
trinque: how much runway does a smaller pipe give, and what's
the definition of "smaller pipe"?
mircea_popescu: but in other keks,
this could be
taken as a "shutdown" a la republique.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:49
trinque:
trivially, if you're not using
the full capacity of
the rack, first
thing I'd do is
try
to renegotiate
the contract with DC for a smaller rental.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-12 01:00 asciilifeform: wtf re '49 Year Old'
tho! i'd naively
think 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'...
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:45 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like
to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as
to finally get
the hell out of
the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive
treasure chest
that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising,
this)
diana_coman: how do you see
that working before pizarro starves?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I am presently hand cranking
the database walking.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:39 mircea_popescu: why not just enumerate
the userbase and message
them all ?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I am posting and prodding forums manually, and
those are not
the only
two.
Those examples were selected for
their relative visibilty. I am getting some noises in response
to my fishing now. I plan
to meet one fellow from one forum next week while he's passing
through
the city.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, re size it's actually going from ~95k current size of static standalone lib
to ~800k size of same
thing but "encapsulated"
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, I re-read now
that post with
the idea in mind
that it's meant
to be
the "fleshed out" version - it reads like a reasonable summary but I still fail
to see
the fleshed out plans going forward and esp re "try
to drink
the ocean" ; I followed
the links and noticed
the posts but I still get
the impression
those are only a few and/or manually done, is
that correct?
diana_coman: I still
think it's a mess basically and I wrote it
there like
that with bullet points precisely because I know I will keep
tripping over
this so at least I know where
to go
to ...
mircea_popescu: putting all sorts of
things in
there specifically so later on people don't run into "omfg retards why
the fuck would
they do it like
that!!!" sorta issues
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 18:06 asciilifeform: and ftr i'm surely doomed
to run into diana_coman's puzzler myself, when i go
to write a
threaded proggy (e.g. adaized
trb)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 18:03 diana_coman: so
that'd be at least
the "encapsulated" part explained
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 17:48 asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews
the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness )
mircea_popescu: the machine is expected
to give ~correct~ outputs in all cases ; not
to give "outputs which may be meaningful if
the user knew how
to context-interpret
them"
a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 02:28 asciilifeform: 'On
two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will
the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly
to apprehend
the kind of confusion of ideas
that could provoke such a question.'
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 15:13 asciilifeform: imho arg can be made for it being
the gcd-invoker's responsibility
to know what
to do with
the output
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know
that
there's anything wrong with returning gcd of 0,0 as 0. in my abstract mental model wherein 1 is a divisor of all numbers, gcd 0,0 =1, and furthermore 0 can never be a divisor of anything ; but
this purely set-driven problem is inconsequential in boole's alt-world afaak.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: "___ __________ never fails
to unintentionally entertain"
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on
trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has
this
tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is
that fleshed out anywhere? << I flesh out Pizarro's situation here
http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ I am hoping
to get feedback from
the Pizarro board (asciilifeform and mod6) and
this forum.
trinque is
the first person
to
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, no select script on pizarro's blog? << I'll get it set up in
the next couple days.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on
trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has
this
tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is
that fleshed out anywhere?
diana_coman: at any rate,
the q was exactly
that: a q for clarification; not finding fault
mircea_popescu: "There isn't, nor is
there going
to be a way, manner, instrument or device
through which
to protect
the passive from
the active." or how did
that go.
mircea_popescu: it does so push, but
the alternative is pushing more complexity in
the wrong place.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hmm basically a client can end up "making an account" with Eve and not even knowing it/getting
then stuck/receiving unexpected messages at next attempt with legitimate server; I'm sure a client can basically recover/notice in
the end but it pushes a bit more complexity on client
mod6: Which wp didn't
touch
the <dir>
tag and replace with < and >, and for whatever reason, <dir> seems
to play with
the
text formatting. So after I replaced, it seems aligned properly now.
mod6: The problem was, in
the mega-diff,
there were
two places
that had lines like
this: " -datadir=<dir> \t\t " + _("Specify data directory\n") +
mod6: Alright, I fixed it. But I'll leave
the raw file out
there anyway just in case.
mod6: Alright, switched
the ')'
to ']', and avoids
the problem.
mod6: Mind you,
the entire
thing is wrapped in <pre>, so
that's perhaps why it still shows '8)'.
mod6: lol,
this is pretty great. So I was just looking at
the post, and I was
thinking "why does my 8th item in
the overview seems spaced in one extra space?", and
then I looked at
the published source.
mod6: Thank you in advance
to all who read my blog post and make it all
the way
through. It's a bit lengthy, but most of it may be fairly obvious
to
the initiated.
mod6: While Republicans are reviewing
the above, I'm going
to continue working on my
TRB HOWTO updates -- I
think it's pretty much finished, but I want
to
test it first before I start handing it around for
testing by all. After
this, and blessings of
the regrind from
TMSR~, I'll put a date on when
thebitcoin.foundation site will roll over
to
the keccak vtree exclusively.
BingoBoingo: trinque:
Thank you very much for making your desires known.
mod6:
http://blog.mod6.net/?p=26 << Here's my
TRB Keccak Regrind blog post. I have a
tarball linked very near
the bottom
that contains my reground
trb keccak vtree, as well as seals for each.
These are posted so one may
test with
these (I need
the help!).
trinque: you've got my support
to make whatever changes you need
to capacity
to get more
time
to
think on
the rest.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Please continue
to weigh in.
The present lack of weighing in on Pizarro by
the forum is concerning.
trinque: at any rate, let me know if you actually want me
to weigh in on how
to keep it alive. if not, let me know when you want
to scrap my server for me, and we can split
the proceeds. dead in april without a plan in january is dead now.
BingoBoingo: This may be
the case. I am very wary about pursuing
that avenue without
the board and input from all major Pizarro customers.
trinque: I don't see why you'd change your pricing at all if it
turns out nobody's using
the capacity.
trinque: I'd be shocked if you needed more
than
that 10/100.
☟︎ trinque: BingoBoingo: next
thing
to do would be
to instrument
the router and see what you're actually using
trinque: how much runway does a smaller pipe give, and what's
the definition of "smaller pipe"?
☟︎ trinque: consider
that I'd, at least, suffer less pipe sooner
than no pipe.
BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans.
The major part of
the DC cost is pipe rather
than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with
the datacenter would change
the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well.
☟︎ trinque: trivially, if you're not using
the full capacity of
the rack, first
thing I'd do is
try
to renegotiate
the contract with DC for a smaller rental.
☟︎ trinque: BingoBoingo: in reading your latest, I'm curious what fallback plans you have in between pizarro as is
today and pizarro shuttered.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 09:59 spyked: and in better news, house mogosanu (82.79.58.192) has a fully synced
trb node up. it's been running without issues for almost a month now. IMHO it's ready
to be added
to
http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html (cc mod6)