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vhost-: >+ben_vulpes | i had my first relational algebra dream
two nights ago
nubbins`: even using
the sd card for os isn't an unbearable extra burden
mod6: ;;later
tell jurov
The mailing list is still snarffing messages.
The dns fix didn't seem
to help.
ben_vulpes: until
the jews start crawling out of my skin
ben_vulpes: trinque: i'm no mircea_popescu, i have
to
tweak and derp and derp and
tweak
trinque: ben_vulpes: did
the perfect schema float down from
the heavens?
ben_vulpes: i had my first relational algebra dream
two nights ago
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 01:43:22; asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc, openbsd will not see
the nand flash on
the 'pogo.'
danielpbarron: nearly cured of wanting anything whatsoever
to do with netbsd << what does
this mean for pogo?
ben_vulpes: "yes it's entirely a good idea
to lock everyone from ages 8-18 up with each other and nobody else,
that won't promptly lead
to all sorts of pathologies."
☟︎ ben_vulpes: <cazalla> [13:29] you're up against an immense wave of shit made in china, ipads,
tv, public education
the constant reinforce
that should you buck
the status quo, you're a bad parent << jesus shit if you go *with*
the status quo you're a bad parent
ben_vulpes: <gabriel_laddel> [13:15]
the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is
totally A OK. << and furthermore,
the #b-a creed
ben_vulpes: cazalla, gabriel_laddel: it's
totarry
the jooz.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When
they people forked out OpenBSD, seems
they kept
the wrong people
jurov: they failed
to make _anything_ secure. butbut "blockchain
technology!!!1"
☟︎ jurov: "We are at a
tipping point right now. It's making a lot more sense for some
type of digital cash in
the system,
that not only saves our government money, but also is a lot more convenient and secure for individuals
to use,"
the source said.
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nubbins`: close friend of mine. has been in
the bughouse at least a half dozen
times
gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: is
the guy an actual lunatic or just a deviant his "family & friends" decided
to reformat (in your estimation).
nubbins`: hm, i have some posters from
the release here somewhere
nubbins`: at least one person would have
to find and purchase it for
that
to happen :P
nubbins`: i've
thought about release above-quoted
tome as an ebook, but it's such a pain
cazalla: i bet
the scam poetry.com ran back in
the late 90s, early 2000's would work far better
today amongst
the narcissistic facebook generation of
today
nubbins`: tl;dr schizophrenia isn't as romantic as you
think
☟︎ nubbins`: rowhouses of nurses. all rooms are hospitals now. /// flies spit antipsychotic froth on
their
tongues & wheel about cheap paint walls. all hospitals are life now.
nubbins`: but it was
too late for all
that,
the buggers held full control, so all rooms are now hospital.
the candy cart of medication wheels behind me, manacled by psychotic chains. lines of divison have been dissolved.
this letter is also spoken live in
the minds of all others. medication is food. Rx is smoked. food is smoked. all useless as light dripped from bulbs into splashing puddles of light on
the floor. vast communities of bulky orderlies.
cazalla: end up fighting over it while i attempt
to play california games while he does his own
thing :)
gabriel_laddel: the machines in
the shop roar so wildly /
that i often forget in
the roar
that I am ; / i am lost in
the
terrible
tumult, / my ego disappears, i am a machine. / i work, and work and word without end; / i am busy, and busy and busy all
the
time. / for what? and for whom? I know not, I ask not! / how should a machine ever come
to
think?
cazalla: nubbins`, no idea yet, he likes
to mash on
the electric keyboard i have here but
then what kid wouldn't?
nubbins`: so what's
the one
thing you're gonna push him
towards
gabriel_laddel I'll note
that I hate
the perspective of
the author in
that book but liked
the information he had
to present.
cazalla: nubbins`, well if he's not, he can do what i do, but only one way
to find out
nubbins`: cazalla sounds like a great idea unless your kid
turns out
to be not particularly cut out for
that particular
thing
cazalla: will
take a look
tmw when of sober mind
gabriel_laddel: cazalla: see also John von Neumann and Norbert Wiener: From Mathematics
to
the
Technologies of Life and Death
gabriel_laddel: See also China's Examination Hell:
The Civil Service Examinations of Imperial China
gabriel_laddel: By relieving
the brain of all unnecessary work, a good notation sets it free
to concentrate on more advanced problems, and in effect increases
the mental power of
the race. -- A.N. Whitehead
cazalla: so what is
the opinion of
the erudites here regaring what polgar did with his daughters?
that has sorta been my goal with my son, find one
thing for him and push him hard in
that direction
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: nubbins`:
the language doesn't help. For example, a chinese mathematics undergrad from Peking U. I know
thought
that using a computer algebra system
to do mathematics was "cheating". Person in question had no notion of "playing with mathematics".
This is more of a cultural
thing, but much of human
thought is captured in language.
☟︎ nubbins`: learned it on
the descent into seoul
nubbins`: also korean alphabet +1
top kek
nubbins`: they have misconceptions about mathematics, and it's because
their mother
tongue is chinese?
gabriel_laddel: my point is
that chinese as is must go away if
they want
to work with computers
☟︎ cazalla: but what else do you get from
the youngest in
the family
nubbins`: gabriel_laddel while you *can*
type chinese using simplified chars, i wasn't implying
that he learn chinese for computer use
gabriel_laddel: nubbins`:
the english (or korean!) language maps
to computers becuase
the characters compose. you'll only have
to learn how
to
talk
to a computer instead of a whole new system of language + computers.
cazalla: by rights i should know another language but zomg
the shame of speaking german
nubbins`: that's
the situation i'm in right now
gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: doesn't matter. Let's say
that you are a super good people person but can't verify any of what your computer is doing in
the future.
nubbins`: does it map
to mouth sounds well? 8)
cazalla: nubbins`, i
teach him auslan
gabriel_laddel: nubbins`:
their language doesn't map
to computers all
that well
cazalla: you're up against an immense wave of shit made in china, ipads,
tv, public education
the constant reinforce
that should you buck
the status quo, you're a bad parent
nubbins`: that and i'm not ready
to press my generational reset button
cazalla: anyway, it's difficult
to raise a kid right
these days
nubbins`: recently been making lots of korean dishes
that i haven't been able
to eat since i left
there in 2007
cazalla: not simply because missus is useless for such
tasks, but i enjoy cooking and
the cleaning provides me with an illusion of control
cazalla: nubbins`, pfft, i do all
the cooking and cleaning fwiw
cazalla: nubbins`, i read
to him every day and have done so pretty much since he was born (few days missed here and
there)
cazalla: the familiarity of my youth is long gone,
this country is run amok full of chinks and muslims
cazalla: in
the world where nothing changes, i don't grow old and die i guess
nubbins`: gabriel_laddel did you see
the picture of
the kids he rounded up for
the "political party"?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: e plug on
that
thing
three months later, at
the end of which
they.had.not done.anything. I'm not sure you exactly grok me, it's not
that
they hadn't round up
the
town's minorities and set
them on fire. It's
that
they couldn't get
together
to make some stencils which someone (hopefully, someone else) was perhaps sometime (2015 ?) going
to use for some purpose. Somewhere. Whatever."
gabriel_laddel: "The one
thing which
Timisoara does consistently and well is failure. In 2007 I attempted
to organise an art exhibit, on
the
terms
that I was going
to pay, in cash, for everything involved.
They didn't manage
to do it. Last year, I attempted
to support a nascent local party, by paying for a quarter's rent and other expenses (a quarter
ton of alcohol, mostly) for a bunch of self-styled neonazi local kids. I pulled
th
nubbins`: incidentally,
the original white inhabitants of
this land mass on which i currently am living
totally wiped out an entire race of people who had lived here prior
nubbins`: because it lets you ignore yourself as
the cause of all your problems?
☟︎ cazalla: gabriel_laddel, ya know why it is attractive
to idiot country bumpkins like me
though right?
gabriel_laddel: all
these "right wing" "conservitive" organizations or whatever are pathetic. I was looking into e.g.,
the golden dawn earlier
tonight...
nubbins`: and we all know
that a society of hedonists is a good society indeed
☟︎ cazalla: i don't mind imperialism but it fucked up by not wiping out
the abos
gabriel_laddel: the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is
totally A OK.
☟︎☟︎ cazalla: yeah my missus constantly reminds me
that i am
the most racist first generation australian she has met
nubbins`: just "this door should be closed!" right after you walk
through it sounds a bit silly
nubbins`: since, cough, every white person in australia is either an immigrant or a recent descendent
thereof
nubbins`: anyway it's sort of silly
to pretend
that immigration
to australia is
the problem
nubbins`: worth arguing
that whitey destroyed ethnic australia
gabriel_laddel: and
the "right" (or whatever) was weak enough
to allow
them
to
cazalla: lefty whitey australian so quick
to demand rights for
the new australia muslims for some reason
cazalla: at
that point, ya sorta realise ok
they really are fucking crazy cause i sure as fuck am not shilling for jidf from
the mancave