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nubbins`: mircea_popescu we've been moving the biz away from textile printing and towards paper/fine art printing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah right
asciilifeform: i mean, if nubbins` thinks that mircea_popescu runs an arse-mouth system and buys own subscriptions, what does he pay divs from?
assbot: 3 results for 'from:mircea_popescu divesting' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+divesting
asciilifeform: !s from:mircea_popescu divesting
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the current lease on floor space expires April 30 2016; property will be considered to be abandoned if arrangements not made by that point
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 08:49:19; ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/trilema_comment.txt << in case anyone is waiting on mp
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423477 << the way to kill pools is to hash he WHOLE BLOCK, rather than header. but as mircea_popescu pointed out, it is not merely ~pools~ that are colluding, but actual ~miners~, so it solves nothing. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 07:26:07; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would you limit the number of addresses/coinbases in a pow-for-addr scheme?
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/trilema_comment.txt << in case anyone is waiting on mp ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#comment-116712 << asciilifeform, mod6, jurov, PeterL, mircea_popescu, kakobrekla (in moderation, hopefully passes the bowels of mircea_popescu's wprexen soon)
ben_vulpes eagerly anticipating mircea_popescu's bitcoin eulogy ☟︎
asciilifeform: enjoy mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wish i had any time.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.artizan.1:2e61c9028b68fdb12bbd0e1e5e0c1f076aa4f82140e58aad9c03e4344929e4e7
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user artizan: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=artizan | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/artizan/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun play.
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 23:14:46; mircea_popescu: ah the recursive "it must be me too then"
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu know the 'blue eyes puzzle' ?
asciilifeform: nah mircea_popescu is doing precisely the logical thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does know what it is called when a king divests, though.
asciilifeform: well mircea_popescu , what do you think they would do?
asciilifeform: except i admit that i only expected 'this' to happen after cia murdered mircea_popescu and took his coin... ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now we have no pistol, just bare hands.
mircea_popescu: in other the same news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/3e98e7c55649dc7423de0eb26630625a/tumblr_mihjrzicaj1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fairnuff
mod6: mircea_popescu: noted. ya, we need to get our heads around this thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was doing it to help kill hitler.
mircea_popescu: and in other icecream news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx1956mUMp1qz7dr7o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: it seems to me that mircea_popescu does not live by icecream and cunt alone ?
asciilifeform: there had to be some reason why mircea_popescu even bothered with bitcoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a world where a lizard can print is by no reasonable description 'free'.
asciilifeform: again spurious analogy. or is mircea_popescu about to explain how tmsr still has a philosophical foundation without sound money.
asciilifeform: seems like mircea_popescu already decided ?
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
mod6: mircea_popescu: so if your pre-req for change to btc protocol was adopted, and ASICs were rendered useless, how does one begin to attack the problem of mining pools?
asciilifeform: but to say that mircea_popescu's retreat is of no interest to mpex users, beggars the imagination and melts my brain.
asciilifeform: what does mircea_popescu say to the shareholders? 'enjoy the ride dowd to the ground from 20,000 metres' ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 your call to make, together with ben_vulpes i guess - the point remains, if no trb offering in july, no trb offering in july.
shinohai: T_T
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: famine doesn't affect rats and mice. quite the opposite.
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ nobody wants "the cred" of imbecile redditars & all.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: BTC just failed, now what?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is why /me leans towards well designed altcoin as solution. Something capable being ada-ified, but perhaps implementable in rougher form.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: They went against the don't be shitheads when 51+%
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ no, they went against the consensus. what's core ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://megalyrics.ru/lyric/vladimir-vysotskii/zk-vasiliev-i-zk-pietrov.htm << oblig re zeks.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu doesn't support things, period. and imho this is reasonable.
asciilifeform: now mircea_popescu opened scuttling valve.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i read whole thing, and cannot even begin to count the necessary barf buckets.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: oh how i hated that thing
gribble: Request successful for user JuliaTourianski_, hostmask JuliaTourianski_!68c89707@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.200.151.7. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0ae7ad23affed4fee02c6fe2d6a4b48efb8dbeb2660539f943f9ae9c
JuliaTourianski_: ;;bcauth JuliaTourianski_
BingoBoingo: !up JuliaTourianski_
mircea_popescu: anyway, ftr, re ben_vulpes link (not that i've read it or intend to read random derpage from nobodies on topics) - years ago protecting miner investment made sense as a topic.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 20:10:03; mircea_popescu: not with the wanna-be ceos and assorted "captains of industry" ; not with the wanna-be coders and assorted "power rangers" ; not with the wanna-be journos and assorted redditards ; not with the wanna-be sikrit agents and assorted nsa tools.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422950 << so am i thick, or what did nsa even want if not for mircea_popescu to go long on fiat? ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i stopped reading at 'Any good solution in this space must also preserve the large investments many miners have made and are planning to make in their equipment.' and the swimming pool photo (??!)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you did so did i.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 18:53:43; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: quite possibly cutting mining apart from transacting was a design error.
asciilifeform: do they also wonder why mircea_popescu won't come.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu came up a couple of times
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the one thing i will say for certain is that the moving parts gotta be ~number-theoretical~ entities, rather than idiot protocol-promise goop
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: quite possibly cutting mining apart from transacting was a design error. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as quoted by danielpbarron
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see last night's thread
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 18:48:33; mircea_popescu: there's also the case of the retarded romanian workers who stuck a compressed air outlet in the woman's vagina for lulz, ended up with a fatality.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where ru built everything that distinguishes it from zimbabwe? please play again.
jurov: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/04/france_to_jail_tech_execs_over_encryption davout wtf?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/225HX7Q.txt << lulz from btc-e crudbox. apparently they make filipinos in ru.
BingoBoingo: lulz from mircea_popescu's qntra adventure in Argentina https://archive.is/oSlsr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i agree. but it means a very tight belt.
asciilifeform: i am not mircea_popescu, and have no wiggle room.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/33D5WNW.txt
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> in what sense is it worth anyone's time to do anything ?
asciilifeform: they have infinite hitpoint. as mircea_popescu taught us.
asciilifeform: and there is no way in hell that adacoin by july, unless mircea_popescu writes it himself...
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 15:13:36; mircea_popescu: the intellectual value of the work trying to get it to work goes to that great place in the sky where everyone's work ever goes, gauss, newton, who have you.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2016 14:51:11; mircea_popescu: ^ for the record, i've been divesting, if slowly.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> jurov feel free to fuzz, crashing it every which way will make a somewhat lulzy qntra piece << Jurov takes are always welcome
asciilifeform: it'll be cents once gavn phorks and mircea_popescu has no nuke.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, by himself?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so babelocalypse?
asciilifeform: and just last night mircea_popescu was reminding me of e folly of throwing away old razor for incomplete lisp razor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you divest, what'll you nuke it with?
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/492b8r/bitcoin_bounty_offered_of_14_bitcoins/ " I sent them a text calling them a Pig Fucker"
mircea_popescu: the rumour goes countess diana_coman bathory bathes in virgins' blood to maintain her youth etc.
asciilifeform: but will take mircea_popescu's word.
asciilifeform: adlai: hey they aren't all extinct! there is still hanbot and diana_coman
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu broadcast sent !
shinohai: Disney, mircea_popescu style: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1457141383727.png
trinque: mircea_popescu: I see the malice in the act, but am commenting on the pervasiveness of propaganda such that malicious acts can be projected through many obedient, subservient nodes
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha 1 guy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be interesting if a valid addr could only come to exist with a coinbase formation !
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i did not. << you saw it, you didn't like it
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2016 21:19:30; mircea_popescu: for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn't have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2016 21:16:20; mircea_popescu: the problem ~MAY~ be that bitcoin transactions are dupe-able in the first place, for instance.\
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's no such actual thing as flatgraph - only star topology with thinly disguised star.