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davout: their ability to face the consequences of the risks they're undertaking is not something i can meaningfully argue, i have nfi how rich they are
mircea_popescu: which is the problem with this "im trading fraudulently in the hopes i'm rich enough to not suffer the consequences".
davout: mircea_popescu: say i start selling buttcoins, is it fraudulent if i source them elsewhere?
mircea_popescu: what can i tell ye.
davout: i still dun see
mircea_popescu: "bitch, i can buy supermarket crap on my own tyvm"
mircea_popescu: if it said "homemade bread", i do.
mircea_popescu: yes, "going into restaurant means you'll eat food made by someone". but i didn't go into a commissions store ffs.
mircea_popescu: when i go and sit down in a restaurant and ask for the menu, a certain kind of promise is made. when the waiter doesn't go to the restaurant's kitchen but across the street, sits down with my order and waits for the waiter to approach him, a different kind of thing was executed than was promised.
davout: or did i miss something?
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732301 <<< i honestly have nfi what you're on about this ISP thing, I don't recall ever promising anyone to deliver such a thing, or mebbe I was asleep or something? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: perhaps i hear about how they came up with terrorism bs re this latest http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-30#1718821 ie adrian sirbu and instead of pointing at him and laughing, "ti-am zis ca ti-o sugi, fraere ???" im like all you know, impressed or something. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yes, well... ? who knows, maybe i got paid coupla hundy by orlando nicoara. god knows everyone else did, yes ?
diana_coman: ahahah; I'm out of touch with whatever columbeanus are current
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you : he's heard some things, and what i say seems similar. in that sense, guess what ? it is.
diana_coman: myeah; I meant that I don't quite see the basis on which this guy "sees" the similarity; but I'll admit I was being harsh
diana_coman: what grace? what think? what...I??? where?!! lol
mircea_popescu: "but for the grace of god, there think i"
diana_coman: asta-i alex branza moale adica?
mircea_popescu: lol, i shall agree, barb notwithstanding :DS
asciilifeform: the vhsamerica lure still works, i have nfi why, but it worx
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: 'well ~i~! know now that i'm not an acorn. but do THE SQUIRRELS know??????'
asciilifeform: i dun think anyone remembered to tell the slums they've been 'sanitized'
asciilifeform: there is, i suppose, 'rustler'
asciilifeform: meanwhile i found it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hang on, i have a discussion somewhere
asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment ☟︎
asciilifeform: if usg 'borrows' something from me, i dun expect to see it again 'like own ears without mirror', because mother did not drop me as a child
shinohai: Buttfunex not a corral full of thieves ? Am I in the wrong place?
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: this can only come to grief ; and the name of the griefbox is "why is mp so arrogant ; we don't yet know whether it was a scam ; this looks like a serious business because aeron chairs" and other such nonsense amply and insistently documented years ago back when i still vaguely gave a shit about what idiots say and how the idiot brainbox works.
davout: bottom line being, i do think buttfinex is fraudlent, but for different reasons than this particular one
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731791 <<< i missed that, and no i see no problem with that. selling stuff that doesn't exist yet happens all the time in the regular course of business ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in other youtful loves, http://i.imgur.com/9SWvWza.jpg
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 21:23 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732246 << because one day the $item-I-am-excepting will be $no-longer-the-item-I-should-be-excepting?
mircea_popescu: aw damn i thought logotron gets the utf points whatever
ben_vulpes: yeah i forgot about that
lobbes: I'll bbl. Meatworld calls
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732246 << because one day the $item-I-am-excepting will be $no-longer-the-item-I-should-be-excepting? ☝︎☟︎
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732242 << shit. So it is. Looks like I fail the intelligence test, as per: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732028 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought maffs.
mircea_popescu: i should travel more often.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 02:46 lobbes: anyways, for the wotpastes specifically, I plan to download and store those myself from the get-go (and NOT route them through archive.is), seeing as those are easily 'flagged' due to the predictable url. To alf's point, even if archive.is stays up, diddling is always a threat. Any bits I can do without it now is +ev imo
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 02:31 lobbes: while probably elementary to most here, I just discovered that I can send POST requests with curl. One single line! The simple joys of n00bdom.
apeloyee: i find it worth noting that doppler reappeared immediately after asciilifeform unrated for inactivity << perharps notification in IRC client on mention
asciilifeform: ( i fughet the title, it was pestilential )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731822 << nb. i vaguely recall discussing the old ro instruments at some point. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, at least it beats bush's 'and i luvv to live in amerikka, where at least iknow i'm phreee!111'
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i'm not so fixated on 'olivia' per se, but the principle.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:46 asciilifeform: i'll let the actual ro-boriginals settle this one, lol
asciilifeform: i went into campus of 'umt' in timis, it was fascinating
asciilifeform: hm i thought was re su
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'i keep bringing home parts but always get maxim!!' (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i find it worth noting that doppler reappeared immediately after asciilifeform unrated for inactivity
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's lately a bacchanalia of 'totally not phuctor'ism, i only linked a few representative turds
asciilifeform: can deal with it same as with everything else, by lubycode-cum-rsa (i.e. distiller of signal from noise , followed by authenticator )
asciilifeform: every once in a while i find the dessicated corpses of folx who were doing evidently ~same thing i was.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i found the thing in the course of designing own.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i dun think anyone here would seriously consider using the turd
apeloyee: my copies of stuff I pasted only has a header entitled "1. Reciprocal calculation by Newton's method", but no content
asciilifeform: i suspect that 'naive' gcd with newtonian divider will be goodenuff speedwise.
asciilifeform: btw iirc at one time apeloyee posted a newtonian divider, using secretbitcount and secretshift, but the paste got gc'd and it seems i dun have a copy...
asciilifeform: nonobvious i found the aspect where it's supposed to be faster than naive gcd
apeloyee: asciilifeform: problem is I have nfi what's non-obvious to you. I thought most things i posted was obvious, but apparently not
asciilifeform: i promise to actually read instead of allergically barfing.
asciilifeform: ( i already have, and posted, an unrolled comba -- see august log. )
asciilifeform: i'ma also try unrolled comba, to compare, but do not want to spend eons on this type of massage, it can happen after release of p.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i used your barrettism
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i actually did this the other day. it was publicly used 0 times.
asciilifeform: i suppose can disagree if diff b/w 4 and 1 sec matters, lol
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:10 asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
asciilifeform: though i suppose if someone wants to write pcode for a crtistic rsa, i cannot stop him
asciilifeform: i did. however this affects both priv and pub op equally
mircea_popescu: i also have a vague sense of which categories of psychogenic noise are involved, but...
asciilifeform: apeloyee: as i understand it was originally 'what if we had memory implants' etc.
apeloyee: fwiw, I understand "transhumanist" as "fantasising about entities which are non-human except in the ways dear to me (which in practice will mean they're either impossible or are just broken humans)" work?
mircea_popescu: i expect a full half of extant rsatrons simply crash if exponent 1kbit
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the folx with custom rsa-bruting silicon , i expect are pissing themselves as we speak
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537" <- this
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect that you will find the expected 4:1 result then.
mircea_popescu: but this is nothing i can prove in any degree of particuliar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have not yet managed to find the 1 ton of earthworms required to put through the blenders so as to extract the definition of any of these nuts' terms.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wrongly assumed you had fuckgoats output for exponent just same as for key
asciilifeform: i nominate this d00d to replace me when i'm killed.
mircea_popescu: i r impressed, also missed.\
asciilifeform: defo apeloyee has better reading comprehension. i entirely missed the line where diana_coman clearly wrote, she used 65537
diana_coman: but in a few hours I'll have more uninterrupted time on my hands and I'll be able to go a bit deeper into it
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: ty I'll get to your message when physical plant allows
mircea_popescu: don't worry about it, trial and error, i'll ask questions until i'm out.
asciilifeform: i see no obvious explanation for the oddity...
asciilifeform: aha i see it
diana_coman: hm, I looked at it and it did not; but let's check
asciilifeform: i am more than a little bit surprised that this didn't bomb
diana_coman: asciilifeform, possibly I managed to screw it up in an even more basic way; here's the test function itself (this one gets called repeatedly for each key and each message)
diana_coman: yes, I know
diana_coman: mod6, I couldn't find some that are directly comparable aka only the rsa ops as such
diana_coman: hm, I'd be surprised if it gets wildly different results but that would be in itself something...interesting I guess
asciilifeform: but i still have the feeling that this is red herring
diana_coman: uhm; what do you suggest I use?