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shinohai: I simply must have this table: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/castletable.jpg
danielpbarron: !~later tell BingoBoingo i don't think your wotpaste url was correct. can you resend?
asciilifeform: what i suspect you get, is something quite like the ultralongwave submarine transmitter, but without the monstrous mains current bills.
mircea_popescu: just about the item i thought was under discussion all along.
asciilifeform: for same reason you an' i, have 2 eyes ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. individually the signals are meaningless
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose the correct reference i sohulkd have given re smoothness was weierstrass.
mircea_popescu: i suppose. though really the problem as far as interests here is this : presented with an "aberration", in natural noise you really can't tell whether relevant ; whereas in gaussian noise you generally can guess.
apeloyee: i meant optimal for the sender and his expected recipient, not eavesdropper.
apeloyee: if you use wide spectrums, you get back to the problem of, "nature has more energy to burn than you do" << I'm unsure. Shannon-Hartley thorem sez that at least in its conditions, using as wide spectrum as poosible is optimal.
mircea_popescu: i thought the discussion was carierless
mircea_popescu: if i actually transmit fg output, do you expect you'll ever find ?
mircea_popescu: i expect so, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then i guess foxes use hunter-provided equipment.
mircea_popescu: not by purely passive em methods i expect
asciilifeform: apeloyee: what i'd like is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-02#1732165 + if you ~do~ somehow detect the fact-of the transmission, it ought to look exactly like the source had wings and zipped randomly around the continent. ☝︎
apeloyee: I concede I don't have a good estimate as to the amount of information a fixed location's good for
mircea_popescu: apeloyee maybe i'm missing something. how do you distinguish this "something" from "people turned on their electric stoves" say ?
apeloyee: asciilifeform: in one receiver case, one can detect a narrowband transmission using autocorrelation; in case of "aperiodic" whatever, one can detect a spatially fixed transmitter by measuring correlation between signals of two stations. of course, in practice one would need to use many pairs (or a clever algorithm I cannot now think of), and filter known stations
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732826 << I understood that, and it seems doubtful ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'll let the man speak for himself
asciilifeform: i haven't verified that the 3rd rail in the underground is 800 volts hot, yet, either.
mircea_popescu: i've never verified this theory.
mircea_popescu: dja recall i mocked at some point, i dun recall if here or on trilema, this wikipedia tard who posted something like "oh, i'm trying to help by being an officious intermeddler on this here admin board, until someone tells me to stop" ?
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, it is a kind of primitive voice-powered usenet group, with the diff that you can get gestapo to pick up spammers
asciilifeform: to this day i puzzle over what is the appeal of 'licensed amateur radio'
mircea_popescu: i expect when i finally execute whoever's then sitting on the inca throne, they'll print "ex US president dies after MP confrontation"
mircea_popescu: i am offering the (sadly unverifiable) proposition here that it is more likely to have your door broken into and your pet shot because "they thought tuttle lived there" a la brasil ; than because you were running a clinton-porn-pirate-radiostation and someone in usg noticed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the broader point i am making is that the constraints on the gestapo are neither financial nor technological.
mircea_popescu: he thought to himself, is this me, is this my life ? am i not better than this perhaps ? maybe haymasfuturo ?
mircea_popescu: "gotta try, man!" "it kinda might works, i think" etcetera.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732293 << I think I see what you mean. In my case the meaning would end up being "x are never routed through y, ever". I could then end up regretting this if I one day encounter the situation where changing that meaning would result in an overall better process, but, alas, I cannot change due to downstream dependence on that meaning ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:44 vlad56324: i really not have understood this part
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:26 vlad56324: but if i generate entropy with my paper + pen, am i on the safe side or still intel can theoretically fuck me?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:05 vlad56324: irl i work at a bakery
mircea_popescu: "i want to believe!"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 18:21 ben_vulpes: "eyyy, unsuspecting public, i hear ya like holding bags"
mircea_popescu: and in other tears of modernity, "I was formerly a PhD student at Max Planck Institute for Intelligent Systems, Tübingen, Germany, under the supervision of Bernhard Schölkopf and Stefan Harmeling, where my research focus was image denoising. I have achieved state-of-the-art results using neural networks. I am currently co-founder at TasteHit, a web analytics and personalization startup. We aim to create a unique browsing ex
asciilifeform: gotta luvv, incidentally, the 'huffman compression' thing. 'we can't decompress because nobody has the table'. except if you had instrumented sticks of ram, that can be read out of band ( i.e. without cooperation of the mobo and its contents , through a second hole ) you could quite easily restore the entire image ( which sections get read , in what order ? concatenate'em. )
BingoBoingo: <vlad56324> what i would like to ask after reading the logs: what is a safe linux distro to use for day to day computing? << Minix 2 is prolly closest
diana_coman: oh, oh; as far as I know there were 2 versions at least and one of them with 80kB, yes
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i think he meant kB
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman iirc the cobra had 80kb ? <- hmmm, iirc 58 keys but I can't say I'm 100% certain
vlad56324: i really not have understood this part ☟︎
vlad56324: that's creepy as fuck. Consider that a couple of years ago i was feeling safe generating paper wallets on a online ubuntu distro
vlad56324: but if i generate entropy with my paper + pen, am i on the safe side or still intel can theoretically fuck me? ☟︎
vlad56324: basically i understood that there is this... kinda backdoor
asciilifeform: i.e. the question has an answer, but the phrasing of the question makes the answer inevitably misleading .
vlad56324: may i ask if there is some particular real advantage with freebsd?
vlad56324: then i saw some folks that prefer freebsd "for security" but never understood the reasons behind this
asciilifeform: it will still be possible to be surprised at 'why is this thing, that i put there, doing $x' . but this is a substantial step above the pig farm where you have a bowl of unattributable slop.
vlad56324: i mean, i like and think that there is no harm about having some ARP request and dhcp stuff, but then, i realized that even if i was with closed browser, doing text editing, there was traffic going outside my lan
vlad56324: i would like to ask: there is some specific distro that by default doesn't need to communicate out of my lan?
vlad56324: basically i'm on ubuntu since a lot of time, then after reading i've discovered some useful networking instruments such as tcptrack
asciilifeform: i'll answer this one : there isn't one.
vlad56324: what i would like to ask after reading the logs: what is a safe linux distro to use for day to day computing?
vlad56324: irl i work at a bakery ☟︎
vlad56324: i knew bitcoin on 2015, trilema blog in the past week, aside from that i'm just an average joe
asciilifeform: yesterday i learned that there exists a similar subculture in academia as pertains to 'covert radio' ( see 'olivia' thread )
asciilifeform: gotta luvv the 'i have a tall pile of mathemasturbatory squigglies ergo I Fix Bitcoin' school of derpery
asciilifeform: i still even recall the days when shitcoin artists tried to mask their premining or at least distract from it somehow
ben_vulpes: "eyyy, unsuspecting public, i hear ya like holding bags" ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 16:19 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i then stand corrected : ran once, and then came back twice to fleece the incorrigible idjits
mircea_popescu: definitely. i still have the old tim-s'n
asciilifeform: hm i distinctly recall a thread where mircea_popescu and z80
mircea_popescu: i don't even know i ever had one. by the time they were more or less available i got ibm pc
asciilifeform: ddr defo existed. i have one here.
asciilifeform: i'm not aware of a swiss-made z80 set having existed
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm satisfied ipad/tablets worst possible.
mircea_popescu: basically these thin plastic pill style things lemme see if i can find one
mircea_popescu: i had to have custom fucking made kbd replacement put into teh old style timisoara-made z80 clones
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 15:40 asciilifeform: btw if anyone REALLY needs a 9200 baud ( or other ) baud rate, i ( or for that matter anyone ) can build a replacement cpld firmware image that makes this happen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi over what, iirc there were a few hundy btc in limbo
asciilifeform: dacia prolly lasts longer, and moar repairable : i saw more than one example from clearly pre-ceaușescu times
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i lusted and was finally cured when found one at scrap dealer
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: generous ? i'm hacking in cascadia!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wouldja believe, i got stopped at the border for extra helping of inspector fidgeting. guess why.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i then stand corrected : ran once, and then came back twice to fleece the incorrigible idjits ☟︎
ben_vulpes: last time i crossed the border, guard winked us through, saying, "see you in november!"
pete_dushenski: i'm in ben_vulpes' neck of the woods more or less, sadly with bizniz to tend to and little opportunity to make house calls to trump's side of the border.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: znort "finally" ran three times now. if zhe comes back again i won't be overly surprised. like how many other btc corpses, znort surely has nine lives.
asciilifeform: i think all 1980s micro owners remember moar the insides than outside, lol
diana_coman: asciilifeform, that one, yes! mine was made in-house by my father so I sort of know it more open-box than closed-box in any case
asciilifeform: btw if anyone REALLY needs a 9200 baud ( or other ) baud rate, i ( or for that matter anyone ) can build a replacement cpld firmware image that makes this happen ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. you won't burn it unless really try )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, I should get my '80s cobra then? centos 6 is not even recent tbh; but otherwise yes, I believe re no need to patch
asciilifeform: i.e. suitable for direct connection of FG.
asciilifeform: i prolly should note ftr, for the truly lazy, there exist serial-to-ethernet boxes. they cost roughly what FG itself costs.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, for various definitions of resolve; I'm satisfied that problem was as identified i.e. pl2303x vs pl2303
asciilifeform: i'd hope.
mircea_popescu: i expect he was unpleasantly surprised by apple.
mircea_popescu: THAT is what the whole "i'm rich, pay off for it" protection is for.
mircea_popescu: a deal can be anything. a stupid deal, or a deal of no economic value or relevancy, such as me offering for sale my palace on the moon, with the footnote that as far as i know there's no palaces on the moon and if there were i don't know of owning any is one thing. fraud begins later on.
mod6: i.
davout: ftr fractional reserve is really not what i was discussing in the first place ...
mod6: (unless it says otherwise, in clear, plain-text right there and I am aware that the coins that are listed on the orderbook are not actually *there*, right *now*)
mod6: If I place my bid, "100 BTC @ 1.00 USD", and your trade engine tells me that "Trade Executed", I expect immediate settlement/delivery. Anything else is scam.
mod6: i disagree.
davout: i see your point
mircea_popescu: ie, if X thinks P = "hey, ima trade fraudulently because i'm rich enough to afford covering up for it", the probability of X later thinking P' = "undertaking excessive risk on the basis of extant capitalization is viable in spite of its obvious unviability" is high. because while P' is patently insane whereas P is merely occultly insane, nevertheless P' is just a watered down version of P and consequently "of lower psychologi