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nubbins`: you'd be surprised how
tricky it is!
danielpbarron: i might buy one if
there are enough people in
the pool
ascii_field: (other
than with perforator and spiral binding)
ascii_field: nubbins`: i routinely use 'print on demand' houses when i feel like getting xxxx in dead
tree, but
the result is invariably just a little better
than what i can do at home
nubbins`: truthfully it's
the fact
that all
the setup work is being done for a single book
danielpbarron: Security people are often
the black-and-white kind of people
that I can't stand. I
think
the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
that
they make such a big deal about concentrating on security
to
the point where
they pretty much admit
that nothing else matters
to
them.
danielpbarron: point where
they pretty much admit
that nothing else matters
to
them.
ascii_field: but i can laser print and perforate as well as
the next guy.
ascii_field: it was worth a shot.
thx for
the phree quote, nubbins`
nubbins`: once you start sewing bindings, you commit
to labour-intensive cover attachment
felipelalli: he said
they have a "learning machine"
to determine
the correct interest rate, but it is a joke don't let
the free market decide its own rates.
nubbins`: hey, i can hand-sew, but you're not gonna like
the price
nubbins`: i'd have
to check
the
type of metal
danielpbarron: well it's an obvious path for
them
to
take considering
the
thing is a scam attractor
felipelalli: I was
trying
to convince him
that don't let
the users choose
the interest rate is not a good idea.
felipelalli: I said
to BTCJam CEO: "mircea said BTCJam is not even a service" he said "who is
this?" and
then
tried
to convince me "other people disagree with him"
felipelalli: nubbins`: but I would like
to collect
the cons arguments. I was using
the service for a while and it was nice, except
the reputation system. But yes, without a good reputation system, it is worthless. :/
nubbins`: asciilifeform you'd be looking at around $10-15 for a softcover / staple-bound issue of
this sent
to your door
nubbins`: point being
that yes, many people can be wrong
felipelalli: danielpbarron:
Thank you! Next
time I'll
try it! :)
felipelalli: nubbins`: in other words, should
they be ignored? :)
nubbins`: asciilifeform
these
things look great
nubbins`: "Th is i s how
t o c o n v e r
t an i s s u e f o r d u pl e x p r i n
t i n g ."
nubbins`: we print
them something like 36-up, so you could have w/e number of designs/names/etc you wanted
nubbins`: danielpbarron if you guys figure somethin out between yourselves, i can print a batch all at once
to save on setup
danielpbarron: well i don't necessarily want
to design one, but if
that sounds like something
the other qntra writers would want, I'd like a stack of
them with my name on it if
that's ok
danielpbarron: oh speaking of
things nubbins` can print; how about an official Qntra business card?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: Where can I find objective arguments against BTCJam? As a lending service and reputation system? And what are
the alternatives for P2P lending or we don't have?
They have 113,000 users, should
they be ignored?
☟︎ nubbins`: *:ascii_field wishes he could buy
the entire issue of
the 'pocorgfo' in hard cover archival paper <<< judging by
the second-page notes, you can
mircea_popescu: and all days until
the one day, because it seems our fate :D
mircea_popescu: anyway, i gtg, we shall continue
this argument
tomorrow
ascii_field recalls learning with alarm as a little boy
that
there was ever such a
thing as a reichsmark. 'couldn't hitler simply order shit done?'
mircea_popescu: imagine your daughter fails exams, now can't go
to school. so what, you make her a mini university out of cardboard, and while
the other girls
to go school
trinque: tsar god can't declare
things into existence
ascii_field: it gets
to carry on derping by order of
the
tsar-god
mircea_popescu: this is what it is, and
the most important dynamic since combustion engine.
ascii_field: then we find out
that it doesn't actually need sales for anything
mircea_popescu: derp fucked up on bitbet, it
turns out bitbet is not a consumer venue, sales doubled
that quarter.
ascii_field: 'It will be a great day when our schools get all
the money
they need and
the air force has
to hold a bake sale
to buy a bomber.' (some american derpmeister in
the '60s)
mircea_popescu: whereas mykotronx can stop
tomorrow, and
that
tomorrow is coming.
mircea_popescu: but
there's nothing anyone can do
to prevent s.nsa from baking what it bakes
ascii_field: rly. so mykotronx is holding bake sales
to build nsa crypto garbage, and s.nsa is baking diamond
ternary ram ?
mircea_popescu: modern weapons yo.
they only work in
the hands of
the proper people.
ascii_field: yeah, but right now
the who-whom is pointed
the other way.
mircea_popescu: one day newsweek will need
to borrow and find itself unable
to.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 20:38:54; mircea_popescu: felipelalli if you write some apologetic pos about how
toejam is an actual service it's not getting published.
mircea_popescu: "you and i might not care or know, but someone in
the capitalist club is financing
the new lightbulb"
ascii_field: 'you'n me will burn in
this here
tank, but red army
triumphs' (tm) /
trinque: ascii_field's comment about having accomplished something put it better
than I did
mircea_popescu: the plan is of course
to use it extensively on anyone related
to usg, starting with
the press, starting with idiot whores a la leah goodman and idiot venues a la newsweek
mircea_popescu: ascii_field problem is we're rich.
this can no longer work for bitcoin.
trinque: oh we're fucked; I just don't expect
that
the men in black are coming for me because I said I like bitcoin
ascii_field: re: starving: at any rate, starvation is also what
they do
to 'problematic' folks in usa instead of shooting,
typically
mircea_popescu: the population simply collapses at
that point.
think cockroaches.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think any human population can be stable with lifetimes averages < 30.
trinque: mircea_popescu: when imagining overt dictatorship I'd
think so
mircea_popescu: trinque hastings was born before me wtf.
this is a long life now ?
danielpbarron: according
to
the mythology
taught in US public school, ya
ascii_field: first one
that comes
to mind is giordanno bruno
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:35:24; ascii_field: order 'anarchist's cookbook', get on
the 'harmless idiots' list
mircea_popescu: "all
the other rags" is
the proper venue for
that sorta nonsense.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli if you write some apologetic pos about how
toejam is an actual service it's not getting published.
☟︎ trinque: mircea_popescu: hm is
this where
the declining soviet population went? a different x% croaking on
the street per year?
ascii_field: Adlai: in usa, if your income nulls out you
turn into a bum generally within one business quarter
mircea_popescu: think of it in
terms of particles : if muons live a second and meons an hour, and at all
times 10% of particle population is muons,
then what changes does a meon
to
turn into a muon during its lifetime ?
Adlai: or is
the
theory
that homelessness is a stage just before death
danielpbarron: probably; i've read
the horror stories on
the forum
Adlai: mircea_popescu: how's
that work, you're saying homeless people have longer life expectancy?
trinque: I got paid
to go
to college and still left
Adlai: though
the wot isn't exactly your average "nobody over 30"
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:25:24; felipelalli: Depends on situation. For example: I had
to spend some unforeseen money and I didn't want
to climb a mountain
to get my bitcoins, so I got a loan with a very low interest rate.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2015 09:14:51; mircea_popescu: i don't
think anyone in
the wot ever actually starves.
trinque: of course, property
taxes underneath all
the other "it's not really yours"
mircea_popescu: expectations coming
to allign with reality is a measure of emerging sanity
trinque: nobody under 30 expects
to own a house anymore
ascii_field: schmuck wants
to live in a house, owes $maxint, pays interest until dies
ascii_field: it is used as
the real primary
taxation mechanism
mircea_popescu: just, you know, everyone
thinks
they're speshul. but if i were a natl bank governor i wouldn't allow
the derps
to borrow either.
mircea_popescu: AND
this is for
the great benefit of everyone else, because nobody is as poor as usians.