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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, re
twin studies :
they're great because best we got
mircea_popescu: note
that my observation about where
the gaussian's bound is not idle.
mircea_popescu: what, down sindrome ?
that's uncontroversial as it gets.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but
the genetic explanation of stupidity is certainly not in dispute here.
nubbins`: anyway, principia, smth like ~100 pages into volume ii before
they finish
the proof?!
mircea_popescu: leaving aside
the differential of quality between
the definitions of pregnant and intelligent.
mircea_popescu: decimation quite a ways ahead of any genetic explanations for intelligence on
tap
nubbins`: left
the house ~4 hours later w/ several
tomes on
the philosophy of mathematics
nubbins`: turned out
to be
the 60th bday of
this philosophy prof at local uni
nubbins`: worst rabbit hole re:math was one winter eve i found myself
thoroughly intoxicated at a party i'd wandered across
decimation: mircea_popescu: "pregnancy comes from copulation" is a fairly workable
theory
nubbins`: covered sections in various number
theory courses
nubbins`: took me
til age 24 before it was explained
that 1+1=2
mircea_popescu: once copulation explained pregnancy,
that was it , you know ?
nubbins`: didn't
they retroactively expunge
turing's homosexuality conviction within
the past couple years
nubbins`: i developed an allergy
to apple skins
mircea_popescu: but wouldn't you agree
that had
the apples made him gay,
THAT would be
the most interesting
thing about
them ?
mircea_popescu: that's
the
thing : any attempt
to explain behaviour by genetics ends up bending
the notion of "explain"
the fuck out of place
mircea_popescu: some attempts will be made, but srsly... whadda ya want. shit's hard and chemistry has other stuff
to do.
mircea_popescu: at any rate : expecting human behaviour
to be addressed by genetics is a little like expecting food
to be discussed by chemistry.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: tho by now
that's migrated closer
to a personal relationship.
mircea_popescu: (there's
this entire subculture of [mostly white] men
that aim
to raise other peopel's children)
decimation: re: genetics of intelligence <
the post makes a good point, in
that
there's nobody who can
tell a story about how some genes 'cause' intelligence. But
that doesn't really address
the observation
that when you give a
test
to ethnic groups A&B,
the resulting distributions are different.
nubbins`: christ, can't wait for it
to stop
nubbins`: what an anomaly
to be wiggling about!!
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> you become more like your "true self", which just happens
to be dead. <<< oh ho ho ho, i like
this
mircea_popescu: no one would dispute
the
true lenin is in
the
transhumanist facility at dark pink plaza right ?
mircea_popescu: you become more like your "true self", which just happens
to be dead.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 23:51:31; Adlai: well, you do become 'less yourself', until
there's nothing left... although it's a more complex process
than just cells dying
mircea_popescu: "rationalists" indistinguishable from flatearthists, except, perhaps, by
the color of
their guts ? sign me up.
mircea_popescu: "so
then what is
this nobility again ?" "oh,
their blood was a differentcolor." "ic."
mircea_popescu: the same sort of
thing as "well... french nobles had lice. just like
the peasants. and died of
tb"
mircea_popescu: to me
the lulz comes from
the similarity with idiocy, in spite of all
the pretense.
mircea_popescu: that's
the animism here,
the naive proposition
that harm upon
the wax statuette will visit
the subject.
mircea_popescu: but
that aside : you will note
that if i make a bitwise copy of a running system on anothjer system, eiteher will continue independently. if i
then set
the second on fire,
the first is unharmed. whether
the 2nd "Thinks"
that "it" = "the first" is harmed oir not is irrelevant.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 23:46:09; asciilifeform:
the answer
to 'is
the copy you' is 'shutthefuckup you're asking a broken question'
mircea_popescu: jurov you ever considered doing stand-up comedy ? something in
the stewart vein mebbe ?
decimation: there was a
time when
the husband could appropriately wait outside
to receive
the new little one after
the moment came
mircea_popescu: the us equivalent, of course, being mammie
to rhett butler : "theis ain't a man's job, buzz off."
mircea_popescu: thur posing at Guinevere becomes Don Quixote grovelling before Dulcinea. You must admit
that here Nature beats Comedy out of
the field:
the wildest hominist or feminist farce is insipid after
the most commonplace “slice of life.”
mircea_popescu: ut of
the house
to outface his ignominy by drunken rejoicings. But when
the crisis is over he
takes his revenge, swaggering as
the breadwinner, and speaking of Woman’s “sphere” with condescension, even with chivalry, as if
the kitchen and
the nursery were less important
than
the office in
the city. When his swagger is exhausted he drivels into erotic poetry or sentimental uxoriousness; and
the
Tennysonian King Ar
mircea_popescu:
There are no limits
to male hypocrisy in
this matter. No doubt
there are moments when man’s sexual immunities are made acutely humiliating
to him. When
the
terrible moment of birth arrives, its supreme importance and its superhuman effort and peril, in which
the father has no part, dwarf him into
the meanest insignificance: he slinks out of
the way of
the humblest petticoat, happy if he be poor enough
to be pushed o
decimation: heh. no one can shrug off
their own humanity
mircea_popescu: which doth mean
that even across religious conflict,
the pregnant woman
trumps
the imam. imagine
that!
mircea_popescu: (put
the husbands in
the most visibly awkward position
too - once
that hand
to chest gesture's done
they can't refuse, but on
the other hand...
their wife's sexuality was just referenced by
these half-satan pigdogs. was pretty lulzy
to observe)
decimation: there is some of
that in
the us, in a fossilized way. sometimes pregnant women are given priority for parking, for instance
mircea_popescu: but, in
turkey, at
the height of
the syrian refugee crisis, i numerously observed various people selling food gifting items
to pregnant syrian women.
mircea_popescu: amusingly,
the revolutionary french actually put it in
the code
that pregnant women may steal food off market displays.
decimation: a few generations ago it was considered everyone's job (in
the family
tree)
to assist with
the young children
mircea_popescu: it's just, children are a cost everyone seems
to wish
to externalize.
decimation: well, paying for young families has
the further advantage of being a limited-time affair
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY
the same
thing, except state doesn't pay for mother's year off, pays for gramma's years off.
mircea_popescu: decimation generally ro families reproduce once grandparents go
to pension.
decimation: instead of endowing
the next generation
decimation: there is something weird about
the us, in
that
the grandparents often
think
that
their responisibilities end after seeing
the children off
to college
mircea_popescu: i dun
think
there's anything
that can be done in a whole decade of "education"
that's as valuable as kid having mother at home first year.
mircea_popescu: decimation imo
the most defensible expense in
the state budget.
decimation: but it certainly seems like society ought
to consider paying for young families over old codgers