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asciilifeform: abundantly clear.
asciilifeform: nobody does a lick of motherfuqinwork.
asciilifeform: this goes right back to the 'buy five moar, or throw the 1 out !' megadilemma.
asciilifeform: i made one for mips in 2016, it was nasty
asciilifeform: but annoying that nobody seems to have ever published one or mentioned the existence. ☟︎
asciilifeform: theoretically can build on on ordinary x64, 'crossdev'
asciilifeform: approx as useful as the x86 one lol
asciilifeform: it dunwork on arm64. just tried.
asciilifeform: aa the arm-eabi-.* bareboard thing
asciilifeform: where's the gnat for it tho
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: aka arm cortex a9
asciilifeform: ~= pogo.
asciilifeform: i.e. 32b.
asciilifeform: xilinx datashit says it's an arm7
asciilifeform looks...
asciilifeform: arm64 gnat does not appear to exist anywhere, nor anyone publicly mentioned having build one afaik.
asciilifeform: arm32 is not hard to find. but doesn't help any in building a working arm64 gnat ( at least no more than working copy of stock x86-64 gnat )
asciilifeform: pogo for that matter is also an arm7 (32)
asciilifeform: aa that -- that's what they stuffed into recent xilinxen in place of the old ppc core
asciilifeform: wassat ?
asciilifeform: correct. for arm32.
asciilifeform: ( and , on top of this, 'bare' is very different animal from linux )
asciilifeform: 32
asciilifeform: i.e. nuffin to run.
asciilifeform: the inexistence of a binary arm64 adacore gnat distro
asciilifeform: *given
asciilifeform: ( that it gotta happen on another machine , is a give, given the impossibility of building a gnat without a working gnat )
asciilifeform: no dice re how to even begin to produce an arm64 gnat.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, on chinesiumtron, errything, errything worx... but... gnat/
asciilifeform: !!up BigTexasBingo
asciilifeform: ... thing built with my USE flags, incl. ban on gcc >=5 ( i used a stage3 tarball from 2016 deliberately , but with current-day portage snapshot ) -- no serious barf
asciilifeform: note, this beast has a video jack, could in principle be used as gentooistic workstation.
asciilifeform: with -j5 in make.conf (i.e. 100% cpu utilization) ; but heatsink not even warm
asciilifeform reports, however, that the archaetypical emerge -av --update --deep @world on chinesiumtron , to the tune of 117 various packages, took ~4hr. which is, lulzily, approx the same as on my workstations
asciilifeform confesses : did not read
asciilifeform: possibly the truly prolific crackpots began to have problem navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system(tm)(r) and left these...
asciilifeform: where did they hide the trooo lesswrongists.
asciilifeform: lol, small arms wank! where are the planet-eaters, the solar shade weapon specialists, the immortality pills?!11
asciilifeform: this is livelier than asciilifeform expected
asciilifeform: 'navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system' << already 'winning' in chan subjline !
asciilifeform: was it ~100% join/partolade by volume?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792907 << >> http://trilema.com/2014/the-irc-world-is-a-big-but-very-flat-place ☝︎
asciilifeform: bahahaha
asciilifeform: but aside from this, 'throw out, or buy five more?', i have a self-rebuilding gentoo, and theoretically recent 'uboot' gives a blobless boot and ergo 100% blobless machine that actually fucking builds own kernel and gcc and etc etc
asciilifeform: meanwhile on the chinesium front, asciilifeform was pretty close to throwing out the 'rockchip' this morn., when saw that every few hrs it read-retries the sd flash. but apparently harmless eggog: comes from certain sad levelling firmwares , they cannot keep up with the host ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-04#1792901 << loox proper ☝︎
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform did realize this
asciilifeform: and appear to work
asciilifeform: and i untarred in spite of this oddity, and the only barf was that python, ping, and cc1 binaries failed to extract. but oddly enuff extracted later manually...
asciilifeform: nope. $box supports ext4 , but tar 1.26.
asciilifeform: q for trinque was , when did gentoo stage3 start using this 'feature'.
asciilifeform: from 1.27 and up.
asciilifeform: it's in tar.
asciilifeform: as of 5min ago.
asciilifeform: boots -- believe or not -- a gentoo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's chinese, therefore lulzy. mine seems to boot up with the shitrom broken...
asciilifeform: doesn't show any symptoms of approaching the thing in any way other than http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460013 ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LsmJG/?raw=true << d00d's total effort in re pehbot , thus far.
asciilifeform: this almost takes out all the sport tho.
asciilifeform: oh hah.
asciilifeform: at the time understood maybe half . really oughta rewatch these days
asciilifeform: *watched
asciilifeform actually watches the 2005 one , it was lulzy
asciilifeform: incidentally trinque do you know of a musltronic stage3 for arm ?
asciilifeform: what's the most recent stage3 that hasn't got it ?
asciilifeform: trinque: any idea when this liquishit crept in ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: hey trinque , i was attempting a gentoo , and found that i cannot even extract a 2016 stage3 on a sane box because --xattrs-include='*.*' and my tar has nfi what xattrs are
asciilifeform: and, interestingly, the entire public net appears to be EMPTY of ANY discussion of a cure. ☟︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in sads, RK3328 ( and in fact every arm cpu in production ) won't boot without a ~1MB evil blob (that in fact runs on dedicated evil-core, just like intel's ME . ) so much for 'published errything.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( oop for instance is not used. nor is heap allocation . )
asciilifeform: being one of the few languages with actual docs, and of which i used a deliberately small subset -- oughta be pretty simple.
asciilifeform: going by the log in #asciilifeform-test, d00d 1) still refuses to actually read the proggy 2) continues to think that it remaining standing has something at all to do with 'sanitizing' or anticipating whatever attack
asciilifeform: phf: i was vaguely hoping he might grasp this by playing with pehbot / reading ffa ; but loox like no dice so far ☟︎
asciilifeform: plz join.
asciilifeform: i've temporarily moved it to #asciilifeform-test, douchebag , justforyou !
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: well, pehbot that is
asciilifeform: actually, douchebag , it does no such thing
asciilifeform: sure?
asciilifeform: trinque: not as such. BUT he really oughta build the proggy and do in his own shell.
asciilifeform: ^ see also.
asciilifeform: !#s pehbot
asciilifeform: !A help
asciilifeform: !!up pehbot
asciilifeform: pehbot !
asciilifeform did in the end find one : ye olde ft232
asciilifeform in fact was not able to find a single usb uart that will reliably rx it: had to use logic analyzer
asciilifeform: in other 'holyfuq, chinesium', 1500000 (!) baud default uart. ☟︎
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: lol waitasec this was a trans-postal?
asciilifeform: what nao, ban tits ?
asciilifeform: bbut lead is banned in californistan!111
asciilifeform: damn i had nfi douchebag were chained to an oar. suxx.
asciilifeform: 'We are seeing @YouTube employees being brought out with hands up!' << lol
asciilifeform: 2 per crate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yay! and yes.
asciilifeform: or nm worx
asciilifeform: umm qntra down ??