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asciilifeform: i had both in most recent voyage, could definitely tell the diff b/w joiana and conventional
mircea_popescu: mno. see, i had pasteurized milk, in romania. it was fine. different, but fine
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If I was housing myself in the rack instead of boxes
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1739954 << Not so expensive given my power needs if I get internet connectivity elsewhere ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, I figure hotel that comes with ticket offers a bit of security when it's needed for things to get to rack. Hostel afterwards because moving to Montevideo during high tourist season (fucking Argentines)
mircea_popescu: i believe the word is "monetizes".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739946 << great way to make friends / polish language tho. i'd say mandatory entry point. ☝︎
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739930 << damn, kindergarten level mistake there. I am used to thinking like in python you can do x,y = y, x+y or whatever ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i r get notice this exists in proper text format, so let's put it in teh archive then http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/I%27m_a_Little_Bit_Country/Script
mircea_popescu: there's a great southpark episode explaining how this false dychotomy is intended to work in practice (i'm a bit couintry & im a bit rock and roll item) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i've picked up 'old-new stock' before, but this is somethingelse.
mircea_popescu: (ie, the false belief that "i pushed - rock obeyed" is dangerous to the "successful" pusher first and foremost -- in a decade or two he finds himself in the laughable position of kerry & friends)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i'm rather doubtful as to actual usg involvement in that. seems a case of "hitchhiker comes across bute, pushes it into the chasm below". well, it's true that "hitchhiker pushed as hard as he could", but it's also true that he didn;t make or specifically find bute.
asciilifeform: and naturally i have nfi what's in the second set of books they keep -- for all i know they ~did~ pay for that yacht.
asciilifeform: probably. i have not been keeping up in realtime.
asciilifeform: iirc i dug up & posted the tax filings from inqtel here a few yrs back
mircea_popescu: i guess/
asciilifeform: (i.e. specifically 'fleadom'-flavoured item )
ben_vulpes: i cannot fathom the confusion of ideas that would lead someone to say such a thing
mircea_popescu: anyway. pretty fucking epic keks. ethereum became a sort of jokecoin after the rape, which i suppose brings the moral home : rape is educative.
PeterL: A being the input array and Ar being the output array; I was trying to follow notation as in the paper, but they use a and A, which ada does not allow
PeterL: I guess that was more answering http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739548 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:37 diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739503 << http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NrPiu/?raw=true << the 0,0 row is not moved and not shifted (actually the paper calls it shifted by 0), I think the function should return full 0 state if fed a full 0 state ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought bitcoin cash was taking over, wtf happened.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: tsmr as the only honest, straightforwards, USEFUL collection of humans I'm aware of...
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly. << You have no need to do this. Lawyer handles
ben_vulpes: reminds me, i have my own willful violation of patient privacy case to get the ball rolling on
mircea_popescu: ah. i see.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have no idea what eldritch magick the stanford lawyer brigade has worked up
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Open a phone book. Find the second biggest lawyer ad (i.e. takes one whole page instead of two) call them. today
gabriel_laddel: Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes I have nfi. Never used insurance before.
ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some "we're a learning hospital, might kill ya, gonna bill ya" going on
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes Stanford hospital is a scary place. They lied to me MANY times about how many xrays I'd get, that they'd let me get copies...
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes I jumped from one roof to the other with electricity.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo I can't parse that.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu Glad I brought this up. Am insured, have option of surgery.
trinque: whatever comes of it, it's going to compress into "I'm not qualified to be free"
asciilifeform: i dun think we ever heard the full story of the roof thing either
mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was expecting self-hacking is in the pipeline since about a year ago.
gabriel_laddel: Anyone who gives me good resources (pubmed refs etc) can have the video whenever I get around to it
gabriel_laddel: Speaking of which, am going to be performing self-amputation of right foot as it is in the way + I don't trust or want US doctors.
asciilifeform: just when i thought d00d must've vysotskyed long ago
mircea_popescu: ok i take it back, this actually makes sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think i do too
asciilifeform: fwiw i know why it's -1
mircea_popescu: what i mean is : the fact that div by 0 produces a non-uniform distribution of bits in the register suggests to me that it is NOT as flagless as it aims to pretend.
asciilifeform: 'undefined' i bet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what do i get from divide by 0 ? rng ?
asciilifeform: i.e. 'reduced instruction set' comp
asciilifeform: but nobody afaik sells a siliconized hard implementation of it. and i dun expect that anyone will. because wtf.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean concretely.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a lot i don't understand.
mircea_popescu: i thought risc had a buncha cond flags
asciilifeform: the only way to detect overflow on risc-v is the algo i used in ffa. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ok this must be the dumbest thing i heard this week.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, what does carry flag ruin ?
asciilifeform: i see eggog
asciilifeform: ( nitpickers will note that rs232 implies particular voltages . and yes, you need a voltage converter to use ttl (e.g. fg) with actual rs232. which is inevitable, because i did not want to put a 200kHz-oscillating 5v to plusminus12v chip on fg. )
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i never grasped the lunacy of 'standard with optional pieces'
asciilifeform: so i dun see how 'special plead'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rs232 is a 1960s standard, and doesn't go away simply because wintel stopped including the plug on the mobo. and world's simplest and most widely-supported standard for digital comms, moar so than ethernet ( i have whole pile of devices with 0 nic but several serialports ) , and will remain, regardless of what wintel does.
asciilifeform: but the latter is to be the reference, and the former -- i 'hand compile' ~from~ the reference
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:29 mircea_popescu: tbh, this item aside (it was just given as an ~example~ anyway), i do not expect that on the medium term we will be able to avoid "and here's the special asm library, links at link time with the rest of compiled shit" situations.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739561 << possibly i mentioned this, i am making an asm ffa in parallel with the ada item ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun make the pl2303 or the related rubbishes
mircea_popescu: tbh, this item aside (it was just given as an ~example~ anyway), i do not expect that on the medium term we will be able to avoid "and here's the special asm library, links at link time with the rest of compiled shit" situations. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: maybe i didn't make the inline incantation sufficiently magical, but anyway. "straight asm", what'd you prefer.
asciilifeform: returning to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739533 , i will point out that inline asm is ~likewise~ a gcc-specific syntax. so if you're marrying gcc you may as well use the existing ( as seen in ffa ) rotate intrinsic. ☝︎
diana_coman: the ref is quite good in this respect I'd say, not that hard to follow
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that any part of it worked.
mircea_popescu: i suppose ye age olde "i didn't know there was interest" at play.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, portable is the rub there; I'll read more on ada for now, nothing much to add atm
asciilifeform: ('use asm' is not an answer, i want, as diana_coman wants, a PORTABLE proggy )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't yet know the answer to that; I'm still eating Ada so I can't decide either way; still, I don't ...like it, that's all I said; perhaps there is no solution to it, perhaps there is one
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how do you propose to rotate without it ? as i see it, the language standard simply has a rotate-shaped hole in it
diana_coman: I guess I'll test that one now...
diana_coman: rho uses that Rotate_Left function which is imported from gnat; I'd rather not have it in a reference implementation tbh
diana_coman: rho step is second,what can I say; first one passed, yes (theta)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, he had those step functions private so initially inaccessible; so first I've tried a full test (i.e. input is this, do full keccak round, output should be this): it failed; so then I grunted through exposing the step functions at least at this stage and testing bit by bit;
diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output ☟︎
asciilifeform: by refusing to add. 'i'm too clean to touch a shovel' is the likely pathology.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 13:57 mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, https://blog.josefsson.org/2016/11/03/why-i-dont-use-2048-or-4096-rsa-key-sizes/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739454 << pretty deep lol , 'I chose a RSA key size of 3925 for my blog' and d00d dun seem to realize that it's exactly a 4096b modulus wit 171 leading zeros ... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:00 mircea_popescu: cultivated enough to mention bernstein&gf curve, uncomprehending enough to "post quantum algorithms". how do these happen, i wish to know.
asciilifeform: i only see pyturds
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739433 << lol next this fella will say, i suspect, 'why do you restrict the range of N' ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'state of the art' means ANY attack that i can describe.
mircea_popescu: other lulz, same source : https://blog.josefsson.org/2017/08/03/vikings-d16-server-first-impressions/ (apparently there's an entire kanzure 's wanker club dedicated to republican hosting ; vikings.net and whatnot. doesn't seem to be actually working though, but i did join their irc, see what happens.
mircea_popescu: cultivated enough to mention bernstein&gf curve, uncomprehending enough to "post quantum algorithms". how do these happen, i wish to know. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, https://blog.josefsson.org/2016/11/03/why-i-dont-use-2048-or-4096-rsa-key-sizes/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739412 << i don't think anything besides the stringing of words is seriously contemplated. ☝︎
kyliee: Bitcoin... I need to understand how to trade without using one of the government run platforms
asciilifeform: i meant rigorous proof that the smallestprime will be on avg smaller in his scenario than in traditional
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:46 PeterL_: hmm, I must have missed that day in 1st grade
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 22:41 lobbes: i.e. it still uses someone else's code for the 'core' irc functionality. I'd rather that core functionality be ircbot, but of course this'll be a huge time investment migrating everything (and learning lisp). In the hopper, though.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: simply arresting the rot dun take much: i expect 'cuntoo' repo box will suffice. once isp winter is over...
asciilifeform: PeterL: i am giving benefit of doubt, i'd rather think that you missed the powers-of-2-forever thread, rather than having read it and understood nothing
PeterL: anyway, I have to go take care of the kids, as always I keep an eye on the logs.