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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everything is either a complete-algebra or a buluceala pit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm testing a very preliminary cstron.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> subject of, why did mircea_popescu choose to stay on fleanode? << i chose nothing. i simply saw that teh republic chose to not make any usable susbitute yet, and so here we are. why do you ask ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery << becauyse why, we're 5yos and the alternatives we perceive are either cartman's own "whatever, i do what i want" or otherwise "we live in a dictatorship!111" ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i argued that giving equal haircut to (1) and (2) is a communist idiocy.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: see if this rings a bell. there were two kinds of bettors on bbet. one that did not get double-paid. and one that 1) did 2) kept quite, kept the coin and possibly a 3) got double-paid, returned the coin. i am not aware of any (3) and kakobrekla stated that 3 was empty set.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: were you there for the mega-thread re: which of the two cuts actually is a socialist thing ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi, ask him
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: if you don't care for the answer, i won't bother to try and convince you. i believe that we already had good thread about this in the old logz, with davout even (who is stuck with the actual surgery)
ben_vulpes: subject of, why did mircea_popescu choose to stay on fleanode?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the arithmetic in the claim is VERIFIABLE.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: if he had said 'you', would this scratch your itch ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: and if you want an example of the use of "we" that actually makes no sense, see ascii's commenter bud
trinque: ben_vulpes: many things called themselves republic throughout history, but I don't see how there being a court precludes there being a republic.
asciilifeform: 17:26 <+ben_vulpes> tangentially relatedly, i've been trying to reconcile "designing a fork to heal the breach between miners and nodes" with "proceed from causes not towards purposes" << this is not a mega-conundrum.
ben_vulpes: afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when you doublespend at somebody you owe to already, and then insist on paying'em again (see the mega-thread where this was posited)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: actually we finally invented the Triple Spend !
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: now you gotta doublespend a couplea times!111
trinque: ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/20060403140224/http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html << original link is dead
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: yegge ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: waiwut
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my pet is 100% portable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think you might have me mixed with TaT
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, depending on skill of sapper.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anti-undermine tunnel grids EXISTED
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the original trope of 'fortress with many corridors going nowhere' has a root in history: anti-undermining tunnel systems from medieval times. largely undocumented (passed by word of mouth) and in some cases survived to 19th c., spawning the meme.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wore whatever blended in with the scenery (e.g., enemy uniform)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to comment why barfed ?
asciilifeform: my understanding is that mircea_popescu sees the difference as a 'balls', 'blood & iron' matter of personal courage. whereas it is slightly gnarlier, pashtun has his family->clan->tribe healthy human thing going, eskimo likewise, usian - has the 'star topology' with the Great Inca at the center and ~nothing else~ but own sorry carcass.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elaborate?
asciilifeform: Mar 30 10:02:53 <mircea_popescu> “I would never trust the legal system, frankly, to protect my family again,” Jeff Sikorski said. << l0l!! it is worth comparing usaschwitz inmate to, e.g., pashtun, or even eskimo. even lowliest savage has ~some~ means with which to bite back, avenge an affront.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... "pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a federal terrorism charge" << recall, a few kidz were convicted after ~publicly speaking in favour of~ isis et al.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-best-cultivate-jealousy/#comment-116889
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ' ... and check it out, the us has more "law enforcement agencies" than there are people who give a shit ' << 15 ~federal~ police agencies with powers of arrest alone! iirc.
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/PiperWallet/comments/3vmig0/piper_paper_wallet_with_bip38_is_saying_wrong/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The old civil defense detectors tend behave pretty erratically
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: p and q are right there in that n
asciilifeform: ergo mircea_popescu's privkey is obvious !1111
phf: mircea_popescu: laziness coefficient L
phf: mircea_popescu: i didn't understand that last question
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> at any rate : it is immensely more difficult to actually make a physical proof than the scheme detailed by bernstein immediately makes apparent."
phf: mircea_popescu: i clarified it a bit with "non-trivial to transfer"
asciilifeform: soooo how is mircea_popescu's seeekrit minercollusion tip not 'private prior' ? what am i missing.
phf: mircea_popescu: non transferable perhaps
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh only when they're thinking with their coprocessor
phf: danielpbarron expressed some concern that the following part of yesterdays #b-a log was an accusation made by me against mircea_popescu. i don't see it, but perhaps i'm missing something? http://paste.lisp.org/display/311820/raw
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and generally he never even needed to ~do~ anything, in real time, to keep'em out
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i did warn.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu knew what pays for asciilifeform to work for republic, he'd toss his cookies
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: human shannonizers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'quantum crypto' is a marketing term for that thing where you serve up random bits for otp using 'entangled photons'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you didn't miss much
asciilifeform: i mean, what, mircea_popescu wrote the equation, then drank bottle of vodka, and forgot, and now is re-deriving it, playing against past self ??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eulora lives where, in lobachevsky's space ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: generally folks program in euclidean space.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: vector addition commutes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah this particular thing is likely the harmless and ordinary 'you can redefine the + sign to polymorph on type' as in cpp, commonlisp, ada, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: crapping out a shitlang and conning naive schmucks into writing programs in it is a time-hounoured way to cheaply score pseudo-relevance. sorta like a comp sci version of altcoinism.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: haskellian masturbatron
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, they got another party to unterrorize the ipnoHe
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is not a box that gets turned off.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: l0l
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asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu still has his caffeine receptors.
asciilifeform: rather than, to borrow mircea_popescu's old analogy, going about like idiot prole cow woman who 'falls pregnant whenever'
asciilifeform: (spoiler: ada aggressively promotes sanity, in particular here the item described by mircea_popescu roughly a year ago, which is that a program must occupy EXACTLY its maximal memory footprint at all times)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> as in, re-use the blocks sanely. << ok so we'd have to therefore keep a 'free list' - a list of objects/items that have been deleted and are "recycled" and may be used again or I suppose we could then call 'Ada.Unchecked_Deallocation' on an item in the free list to shink the list thereby reclaiming the memory.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_ you oughta be ashamed.
asciilifeform: ( <assbot> Logged on 20-03-2014 14:20:09; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'cum se suge pula' << can't help but associate this in my head with the finnish proverb, 'Pillu se on pulullakin' )
asciilifeform: as in fact described by mircea_popescu in the bitcoin-fs thread.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by allocating the size of the largest possible block, for ALL block
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only if you insist of 'writing c'
mircea_popescu: tbh i like the new rested ny-steak&snark mike_c much better than the tired one!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what means proper-big
mircea_popescu: mike_c> but now it's better. << cool!
asciilifeform: hey mike_c
trinque: good evening mike_c
asciilifeform: satoshi ~could~ have invented mircea_popescu's hybrid pow/pos algo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu himself teaches us that 'you are responsible for ALL questions on the exam'
asciilifeform: if i had even so much as mined on the ~fpgas that i already owned~ when the thing began, i would be in neighbouring dirigible to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i grasped this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i buy the miner cartel! if you recall, i walked into #b-a with miner cartel.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu has the time/patience, let's arithmetize
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu thinks 'nominal attempt' - as in 'hasty justification because asciilifeform had indigestion and was inclined to harp on mircea_popescu for no good reason' ?
asciilifeform: i believe that mircea_popescu is a clever fella, and that, given the prior available to HIM, it 'necessarily doesn't'
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes' is not easily disposed of.
mircea_popescu: well now. alf's easily disposed of : bitbet did in fact go into such receivership ; i have little doubt ben_vulpes is doing things. so that's that.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's really nothing wrong in asking anything.
asciilifeform: trinque: if mircea_popescu had been going for the 'fuck off, who asked anyone' angle, why would he have bothered to write the qntra piece re: miner collusion ?
ben_vulpes: and as mircea_popescu has pointed out, courts' mandate descends from the king but may not bind him
trinque: ben_vulpes │ ... and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything << what foot soldier was this? All I saw was a Ricky from Trailer Park Boys impersonation shouting words he heard on terribly written TV about biznis
phf: diana_coman: right, thread was for myself rather then others, and i found what i was looking for. i just couldn't keep dodging snark and "shit in soup" every other sentence, so had to make that detour
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: "change is the only constant!" (d,tmr~). i've no desire for communiteh and happiness and being in a room where everyone gets along. but the logs were valuable in their own right, for as long as they had that continuity.
pete_dushenski: https://youtu.be/Q5QJ9i_o5vo?t=1m37s << 'broteen powdah' reference
ben_vulpes: i am fully torn between the poles of wanting to understand why mircea_popescu burned the coins to make the point, desperately wanting continuity with the logs-as-they-were, and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything
phf: diana_coman: just to clarify, the framing was deliberate and part of a larger thread. when i started conversation kakobrekla and nubbins were both trigger happy and aggressive, the purpose of the entire thread was to figure out where they stand by softening their disposition. talking in terms of competency (worded as a hypothetical accusation to be weighted by a hypothetical court) has proven effective in the past in clarifying kakobrekla's thinki
mircea_popescu: bitcoin_charlie is actually recently famous for the whole "this is what they don't tell you" thing.
asciilifeform: but note, i did predict, classical b-a will die an immunocompromised death, without mircea_popescu's ddt spray