asciilifeform: diana_coman: meanwhile, i've successfully decoded and unpacked your rk backup. it will go into brand-new rk today.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946473 << this is good idea. i'ma obtain the necessary physical pieces for ~that~ after properly serviced existing queue ( diana_coman's demo rk ; correct and rational price summary )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman : i'ma have to re-do the whole numeric orchestra, and write proper summary, w/ rationally-founded constants and at length. will need , potentially, entire day. ( still guarantee cost less than piz, however, for analogous machines. )

asciilifeform: diana_coman already requested rk, it will be installed immediately when get key.

asciilifeform: ( already diana_coman requested rk. so must fill. )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: to return to subj of boxen trapped in uy -- these can be transported for 500/ea ( asciilifeform goes with own hands ) and is +ev for so long as there are exactly 4 to be carried, and that they then to go in asciilifeform's rails. ( and at same time can retrieve all FG, incl. customer-owned, they can be mailed anywhere in world, but apparently uy has customs idjicy if mailed ~from~ uy.) this may be worth considering. all

asciilifeform: diana_coman & co can make this decision at leisure, after e.g. properly evaluating performance of rack ( and asciilifeform as rack gardener ) for the prev.-announced phree month of service.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if diana_coman & mp_en_viaje would like to set up smgtron on 1 of the new boxen, plox to let asciilifeform know asap, so can purchase the desired type and qty of disks. there are 4, as before , disk rails in ea. 'dulap'.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you already set up mirror on leased heathen box, i expect you'll keep it, will bridge interval b/w nao and when proper fgistic, human-built irons are operational.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 1 irons that absolutely must be retrieved, imho, is fg.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: right, i see it as unlikely (but afaik still possible) that the old boxen are worth picking up. which is wai i did not wait for output of 'what costs pick up' ; loading up on habitable irons already .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: quickest way to put a smg box in asciilifeform's rack is to put to use the new 'dulaps' (due in at end of next wk). however you may find it +ev to get the piz boxen sent to england, this depends on exact outputs of BingoBoingo .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i've purchased new boxen, because 'time is money' and not yet even known what costs removal. but potentially +ev to remove, req's data from BingoBoingo re carriers, customs shamanics.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: there's apparently customs nonsense threatening to get in the way. however ~absolute~ ceiling for removal cost is 500 per 1u (u.s. $) , asciilifeform can physically extract 100kg of iron for a ~2000 cost. ( this however would require 4 u worth of iron evacuation request, to be practical. ) BingoBoingo will say moar when wakes up.

asciilifeform: err, diana_coman ^

asciilifeform: diana_coman: atm plan is to properly handle all evacuations ( data, afaik, evacuated, BingoBoingo uploaded gpg'd backups, yours is afaik done but BingoBoingo forgot to send me login to fetch it before went to sleep ) ; after this, publication of cost for evacuations of irons ; after this , auctions of jettisoned irons, liquidation ; then to pay mp_en_viaje , he is owed ; then BingoBoingo returns output re cost of action vs latech ; t

asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje & diana_coman

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo plox to ping when diana_coman's contents are ready for dload ; the box to receive'em is prepared (on desk) .

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for thread-completeness -- by my current reckoning, i can get away with charging <1/2 of what piz cost for colo ; so errybody who lived in piz, oughta be able , for same price, to keep ~2~ (or moar) boxen, e.g. 1 here and 1 in diana_coman's , or even 1 in ea. + barebone in heathendom.

asciilifeform uncrated just nao the ssd for diana_coman's rk, and the mount. it'll be the 1st box going in.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: per my notes, smg was gearing to purchase its inhabited irons (pending delivery of replacements) , this fell down when the rack fell down. i expect if it comes out as +ev , and estimate of time for transportation aint outrageous, mp may want to proceed with said purchase and grab the irons. worth to ask.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: usa has no 'import vat', 1 of the few pluses of sitting there, afaik.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: see what you can source locally ; compare .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this naturally depends on whether you're already doomed to import. but worth making the calculation.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: inquire w/ BingoBoingo re transport of irons. my understanding is that still cheaper (if slower) than to bake new.

asciilifeform recommends to diana_coman & other 'rack bakers' to invest in inexpensive 'coffin' transportable rack -- makes desk testing / transport of stacks of boxen rather less painful .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i intend to move some , but certainly not 100% , of own items, into this cage, aha

asciilifeform: diana_coman: how many racks are you getting ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the rack space is recurring cost, but feels considerably less 'bite' to asciilifeform when he tallied up what currently pays for sad hostings elsewhere

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm beginning to suspect there are folx ~actually~ living in that 1 dc. ( or else wai is there exercise hall, showers... )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: filling a rack, asciilifeform-style, is entirely doable w/out megabux , it costs roughly like those old mercs mp buys. ( at least until one tried to buy ip... )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma test w/ own disks, and purchase fresh ones when there are takers

asciilifeform: diana_coman: these (lesse how they work..) boxen are nominally same type, and incl. double redundant ps and my favourite raid5.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i think you have some moar taxes there, in europistan

asciilifeform: diana_coman: not incl. ssd disks, presently ~700 (u.s. $) from this new shop.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: usually is.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm a miser. but, cage is there, gotta fill. i expect there will be inhabitants.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you make this happen by saturday ? would like to get diana_coman's rk standing up immediately when router, hoses, etc. emplaced.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: and perhaps if you end up with a full booth and lotsa irons, can even hire BingoBoingo .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'll help , to the extent this is possible across ocean.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it aint 'phd-grade' work, but will take a little learning.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: have you ever had occasion to run a rack before ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: likely mine will be the 1st to stand up for service, then. but imho really oughta have multiple people willing to do these, otherwise 'fall into sin' and 'whole generalstaff in 1 trench' again .

asciilifeform will photo-chronicle , in case e.g. diana_coman wants similar item in that british rack

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: copy the sd also ( they oughta be standard, but iirc diana_coman may have modded the kernel, and i'd like it carried over guaranteed )

asciilifeform: aite, let's ask BingoBoingo to dd if=/dev/thatstick | gzip > diana_coman.img.gz and then gpg to asciilifeform . i'ma modify it strictly as required to sit down on new ip and naught else.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you'd like an exact image copy of your old rk, we can work with BingoBoingo , could gpg . otherwise will be 'virginal' as described in my 'gentoo for rk' cookbook.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: you mentioned rk ; i've prepared an rk for you, using same type of ssd as prev. lemme know if you want a different type. it will be installed as soon as i get keyz to the magick door and have the entrance router configged (it arrives, loox like, on fri. also)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: 600gbp for Gb/s and full tower is only 1.5x what 'coloco' asks for same. probably inescapable given the expense of errything brit, and not necessarily bad deal if it's a cage that can get to with own hands. may be worth 2nd look

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i was fwiw shown a room fulla round-the-clock fiddlers who supposedly handle ddos.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: so far only had <2h w/em, and largely occupied w/ formalities.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i fully intend to attempt to turn the 2 into 'people' (vs 'horse') but would like to avoid having'em stampede away immediately like your various vendors galloped. ( will just as readily 'ride as horse' if must, the bloody rack is so cheap as 'almost free', i've been paying almost half of that sum for the retarded hoster where my www is currently )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: his assistant apparently reads my www. him also.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: friday. and right, i expect he'll be in civ clothes.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma ask the crew if they'd like to be personally pictured in the next phototour, also. they had some strange fixation re 'if you sublease space, plz dun use our brand', so left'em out of the pic.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suppose is what i get for cribbing from people w/out thinking.

asciilifeform amended orig '1st hour' chronicle piece w/ name of vendor, per mp and diana_coman's criticism.

asciilifeform: ok on reread , seems that i posted init. chronicle after diana_coman already asleep. so fair point.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: not to mention, yest. diana_coman did not say 'idjit, why not named vendor immediately' ? why waited for mp to barf ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the way i read it, it was on acct of both 'not yet key' and 'not yet known whether worx'

asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945788 << i copied directly from diana_coman's 'no free advertising for new park until at least ~tested~' . ordinarily would have immediately named... wai no flame for diana_coman's piece ?

asciilifeform: trinque: quick q for when you have 5m : do you know how to 'bless' usb stick into bootability ? for some reason stuck on this ( machine is known to boot stix, boots the heathen gentoo 'live' thing. but not mine, tho is set up exactly like the hdd from earlier test w/ diana_coman )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: place seems to have a++ service , asciilifeform was sat in the board room in the throne and treated like royalty. fwiw.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm for. q then for mod6 .

asciilifeform: diana_coman: apparently we found ~1~ thing that's cheap in usa..

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i hesitate to say 'a+++ machinepark' until i've, lol, actually plugged sumthing in. but by all indications promising, in-biz since '94 and claims 0 outage complaints to date. sits on regional backbone.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma start fillin' it as soon as get keyz