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jfw: Or small children... if
there's a button, it will be pushed
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, well, user can set it
to anything
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-06 05:13:18 mp_en_viaje: you do q-qw-q-w-q or w/e you set it
to,
that's IT, prepare
the bootable isos.
mp_en_viaje: the odd end result of
the porn revolution was
the... sexualization of everything, including capital and reason. you're now welcome
to find
the "average" wealth or "average"
thought, even "average"
taste -- much like you're welcome
to find
the average man-woman
mp_en_viaje: basically,
the problem of
the denied middle is not merely "there's no such
thing as middle class any longer possible -- either get very rich or be very poor" ; but also "there's no such
thing as common sense remaining, either become moron
type 1 or else moron
type W".
mp_en_viaje:
http://archive.is/7LwE5 << not
that
the other side is any better. imagine, all
the "socially well adjusted" morons who can't add managed
to re-do
the same
trite nonsense 50000
times, NOT ONE
thinking
to mention... i dunno, any of
the self-obvious points, from "it depends on what is is" and onwards.
mp_en_viaje: funnier
than
the genuine article ; but also squickier proportionally.
mp_en_viaje: it likely occupies a space in
time in between
the appearance of laughter as a group-generating social behaviour and
the apparition of
the voices.
diana_coman: ahaha,
that's
the list of "we didn't push,
they just jumped"?
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, from a sadly-still-practicing anthropologist pov,
this notion (that a) "all
the enemy is
the same enemy" and b) "the name for it is satan") is quite likely
the oldest human idea ; much older
than any kind of religion howsoever loosely defined, and i suspect OLDER
THAN LANGUAGE.
diana_coman: I have no idea;
that's what
the spam said and it made
to me ~as much sense as
that log.
diana_coman: I'll counter
that with
today's blog-spam: "metal pants!"
mp_en_viaje: you do q-qw-q-w-q or w/e you set it
to,
that's IT, prepare
the bootable isos.
mp_en_viaje: there's no real need for ctrl-alt-del
to be supported.
there is however an absolute need for some manner of user-set, five-keystroke wipe-everything.
mp_en_viaje: jfw, incidentally,
thinking about it --
the one (and, for
that matter, only) item
that actually needs first class, os support is user-initiated,
thorough, complete and reliable storage media destruction.
mp_en_viaje: a coupla years, and even if before
that argentina etc, as i
told
the (new) manager of my old indian restaurant : "i've been coming here for fifteen years". literally, since 2005, just about
this
time of year, place's had at least
three owners
that i know of in
the interval and a dozen or more generations of peacocks, but i perdure.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-03 12:40:10 mp_en_viaje: jfw, well, i plan on maybe going
to rio late may ; other
than
that i'll be mostly around. pick a day, i don't specifically care which and it doesn't make any sense for you
to
try and coordinate with large groups at large distances -- if indeed
there's a gathering you can
take
the hourish
trip down again, at
the considerable cost
to you of a lunch out or w/e it is.
diana_coman: bvt: cool, I should be able
to give it another spin on Monday
the latest (or so is
the current plan).
bvt: good, so i guess i can release a vpatch
this weekend
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: well, since it does,
there must be an issue; no reason
though, lol.
mp_en_viaje: not
taking steps back is already arch-sufficient.
mp_en_viaje: bvt, i
think a large part of it is
that indeed
this
tool is evoloving ; and has been, but deliberately under
the specific sort of pressurte, which comes with usage. you're not under some great weight of "having
to get it perfectly & forever right" now, just as mod6 or ben_vulpes or anytone else wasn't 3 years ago.
diana_coman: or at least no need
that I can see, even if
the
tree is huge.
diana_coman: bvt: looks perfectly fine
to me; and as long as
there is how
to see
the whole
tree in
text ,
there's no need as such for separate leaves, no
bvt: btw, "vtree" command name is also subject
to discussion, and it still shows
the "leafs" with '(*)' mark.
mp_en_viaje: because each
time someone blows a fuse and ends up wanting an official word, i end up looking at some shit so stupid it's beyond
this world.
mp_en_viaje: but
this no longer seems a sufficien
tstatement of
the problem. has he EVER been right ? is
there such a
thing as
the wonder of ONE correct prediction since he went along his merry stupid way ?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i am
too lazy
to search where in
the discussion on which blog inside which comment i made months ago
the point
that he's very poor at estimating anything and generally (and universally unreviewed) wrong
bvt: diana_coman: i have a question about leafs command: can you explain how you use it? i gave it some
thought, and honestly i fail
to see how it is useful: after adding
the manifest which linearizes
the vpatches, "leafs" reports only one leaf, without showing
the split vtree branches before it.
diana_coman: I doubt being right is
their concern at all really.
mp_en_viaje: have
these idiots EVER been right about ANY ONE
THING ?
mp_en_viaje: so you don't like lexis
texas... fine,
take her out. you wanna put
eleni mitzali there instead ? fine, copy/paste it in, or instead. or change
the order, or whatever
the fuck. it's your fucking file. what
the fuck.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-21 01:58:17 mircea_popescu: jfw,
tell mom
to come in sometime, i wouldn't mind commissioning ru versions of some
trilema articles from ye 30year veteran editor of
the executive intelligence review.
jfw: I
tried a nearby "GNU Awk 4.1.3" on 1gb of `yes`.
The direct reading was consistently slower
than both input redirection and cat | , which is certainly suspicious in itself; seemed
to work
though
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-04 10:38:48 mp_en_viaje: aaand in "other questions nobody [was smart enough
to have]
asked of me" : "hey mp, why do you always cat file | awk ? isn't it awkward ? don't you know awk can load its own file directly by itself ?"
jfw: well
then, seems we're solving a bigger problem
than I realized
mp_en_viaje: proposing
to continue with "here, like
this,
there, like
that" nonsense is much like proposing
to continue with a formulation of arithmetic
that has no 0 "because look at all
these abacuses we made".
mp_en_viaje: jfw, what casn you do ? humanity requires a universal comment format, because
there may not be computers before
there's no literate code.
mp_en_viaje: i guess we'll have
to patch bash
to recognize it, and
that's
that.
mp_en_viaje: honestly i
think my first guess is also correct, /* */ is
the widest
mp_en_viaje: -- works in ada and
there alojne, and so
the fuck on.
mp_en_viaje: maybe ;; is
the right choice ? o, no, of course not, C semanticized
that
too
jfw: Different comment syntax in different languages. bash uses # while C has quite another meaning for
that character for example.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, an extra line with ** is missing
there
to make it all right
jfw: perhaps
there is in any language of interest, but won't be
the same comment
mp_en_viaje: it was intended
to be valid comment. i am annimated by
the vague hope
that
there can be such a
thing as "comment" in all languages
mp_en_viaje: and yes, my bad, dyslexia made me put
the */ in
the wrong spot, sorry.
jfw: The idea is
that
the original can be fed
to
the compiler / vpatch presser / whatever without such preprocessing
though right? Hence
the comment characters? Because for one obvious
thing
the "*/
The Republic prevails." would not be valid C (not
trying
to be pedantic, rather wondering if
this illuminates some misunderstanding.)
jfw: still working on decoding
that, lol.
mp_en_viaje: the 1st fragment is
the plaintext and
the 2nd fragment is a line-array of signatures in
the comment space hash format.
mp_en_viaje: in limine, it just looks for any file
that ends with "*/
The Republic prevails. (2f20 5468 6520 5265 7075 626c 6963 2070 7265 7661 696c 732e 0a)", strips
the first comment and splits
the remainder by 2f2a 2053 6967 6e61 7475 7265 7320 666f 6c6c 6f77 203a 0a
jfw: yes, and also what it does with
the non-signature parts of 11-14: drop
the lines altogether?
mp_en_viaje: now,
that important part in
there : are you asking how is
the program
to distinguish 4
through 9 from lines 11
through 14 ?
jfw: cool
then, adding
to
the list.
mp_en_viaje: well
then your problem has just been mostly resolved. you have
to read up on padding, ideally start with shoup's restatement of oaep
jfw: hm, I've heard of it but was under
the impression
that padding is a different
thing.
jfw: and yes,
that proposal
jfw: mp_en_viaje: I mighta
tried
to stuff
too much into one article... my original goal was
to explain how bitcoin
transactions embed
the signatures in
the broader context of other ways it can be done.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: well a signature can't sign itself, yes? so
there is some
transformation from clearsigned file
to hash input.
jfw: proposal, but perhaps more simply asked: how is
the message
to be hashed+signed derived from
the input with signatures in comments? And is
that language-specific or what?
diana_coman: well,
the pics I really wish I had would cover
the '80s rather, so dunno; but anyway, since can't
take
them in past, might as well
take
them when
there next, what else
to do.
diana_coman jots down note
to actually
take pictures next
time she goes back
to Ro.
mp_en_viaje: outside of say muscel, never was
that colorful
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-04 14:48:29 dorion: in local us amlbs stories, acquaintance
than owns real estate brokerage/admin
tells me he referred
to his competition a guy he marked as a money launderer cause of new
threats from local regulators. first bankers
turn police, now real estate salesman, grocers next via accepting plastic only ?
mp_en_viaje: there's a piece where ballas makes
the point
that "private" in
the us just means state-owned-without-benefits (
that he meanwhile carefully deleted from his own site) ; panama is exactly
the same
thing in state
terms : another way of being a us state but without benefitting from fed printouts.
mp_en_viaje: whatevs, panama's got nothing
to lose, for lack of having got anything in
the first place.
mp_en_viaje: o,
this was panama ? i
thought it was florida
mp_en_viaje: if
they cock
that one up,
there's nothing left, last branch left
to cut on
the
tree.
mp_en_viaje: dorion, sounds like a pretty dangerous course for a dying state, because
the whole hope of extending survival is currently pinned on real estate monetization.
mp_en_viaje: in any case,
this is
the fundamental defect of all utopian "thinking", of
the reformation ("the
testament i read, and
the
testament
that is,
are the same testament!!!") in general, and of pretty much all usian attempts, from "believe women"
to "manifest destiny" or w/e.
this hope
to one
thing.
dorion: he still got paid from it, but
took
the lower referral commission.
dorion: in local us amlbs stories, acquaintance
than owns real estate brokerage/admin
tells me he referred
to his competition a guy he marked as a money launderer cause of new
threats from local regulators. first bankers
turn police, now real estate salesman, grocers next via accepting plastic only ?
mp_en_viaje: trilema is chock full of great stories (that happen
to be
true, sure, but
they're not great, nor are
they greater for being
true)
mp_en_viaje: "people shouldn't lie" "motherfucker, I WAS
TELLING A STORY!!!" what, "nevertheless!!!" what is
this, jeffersonian democracy ?
dorion: yeah, let
them
talk, watch
them do and don't let what
they say really affect what you do.