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trinque: no state income tax, cheap-as-hell rent
asciilifeform: trinque: there's a reason i used rocketry as the analogy
trinque: but, one will still try to increase his chances even as lowered into the oil
trinque: I'm as good as dead no matter what I'm doing, given a long enough timeline
trinque: asciilifeform: well you at least fight back as the knife's plunged in
asciilifeform: even in a very optimistic scenario like ussr, the disappearance of 'business as usual' could last for decades.
asciilifeform: you're still thinking in terms of temporary disruptions in 'business as usual'
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2013 17:41:46; asciilifeform: "There's a shift in people's thinking as essential items become scarce. They believe that... hoarders created the shortage... if someone can establish such a link between the crisis and you, you have a problem.'
trinque: I mean if we're headed back to the stone age, might as well eat a bullet in that situation
chetty: right? left? too the moon might as well be. right and left don't make sense anymore
asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand, this isn't ru circa 1917, the hypothetical rebels don't 'just want to be left alone' - not one in ten thousand is able to grow anything edible without regular deliveries of petrol, pesticides, etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the 'hordes' are dealt with in the same way as anarchists 100 years ago - moles, stoolies, provocateurs, and, if these fail, massed attack with costly 20th c. armour/aviation
asciilifeform: PeterL: when i went to mircea_popescu's conference-2, had an attache of rng samples, which nobody at any of the borders was interested in so much as opening much less demanding to know how to plug them in
thestringpuller: dead as fuck in here today
jurov: just register as recipient?
asciilifeform: fight the glass to the death - or 'submit' to it as to a 'commanding officer'
mircea_popescu: looky here : for as long as you don't aim to use the "shortest program" thing for the purpose of attacking my statement, it is ok.
mircea_popescu: for as long as the proof is wrong, yes, it provably exists.
mircea_popescu: what is the correct code gcc approximates as it churns on cygwin ?
mircea_popescu: another is the complexity problem. the simple fact that once the father has said "i know shit", if he opens his mouth enough to say as little as some basic math, he's now wrong.
asciilifeform read time machine stories as a kid just like everybody else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: defined as 'what bits would you send back in time to time T1, if you could, from time T2, to maximize profit from investing C coin'
asciilifeform: yet one or more optimal play variants must exist (in the sense the 'optimal' minimax game of chess exists. not in the sense that you could actually play that game or ever see so much as one move of it in life)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2015#1043334 << it would not. godel problem / surprise executio nproblem manifested for your convenience as slippage i guess. ☝︎
asciilifeform: as always happens in a collapsing police state
asciilifeform: laundries are as old as the state itself
thestringpuller: d00d would just sell high end weed, and claim it as "consulting services" and would tax that
adlai: i'm not sure the constructive uses of friction have any parallel either... beyond maybe as a cost of manipulation (when you don't control the tape)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm sure the denizens liked it also. but as al said, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.' we're living with the results of '90s sv.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:07:20; danielpbarron: asciilifeform's got a good point though, with such little amounts you aren't going to move the market -- might as well just pretend trade in a txt file
mircea_popescu: i may even go so far as to say i liked the 90s sv o.O
mircea_popescu: iirc he started out as a lisp hacker.
decimation: asciilifeform: he strikes me as a washed-up do-o-crat
adlai: (for the curious/brave - http://dwim.hu (requires javascript and much searching as it's impossible to link into this 'website'))
mircea_popescu: not the past, as this never existed, but a magical future where things work by themselves in the way ~you~ want them to.
decimation: yeah it was a stolen reimplemenation of cp/m as i recall
asciilifeform spent what must have been a whole year playing with it as a kid
asciilifeform: which is as it ought to be
pete_dushenski: might as well make an interesting ballot pairing of two people noone has ever heard of
asciilifeform: as orlov pointed out
mircea_popescu: sure, it's "not been 100% proven as a scam". this however isn't the criteria. you lie, you get caught, you're fucked.
asciilifeform: no more festering resentment, as in soviet times
mircea_popescu: just like the retarded 17yo who thinks she's a supermodel perceives peoiple walking down the street as "her audience", the redditard generation will perceive everything as sigint rules. because... that's the only thing they can do.
mircea_popescu: yes well, the epa idiocy was not finding the room, among very usefully distinctive verbiage like "Healthy people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty, can experience breathing problems when exposed to ozone.", to specify this
asciilifeform: commonly sold in gringolandia as cure-alls
asciilifeform: the linked crap has the basic idea, ozone works as well on the meat as on whatever you're fumigating against
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 20:32:25; jurov: ^ as per above, it does not affect organic molecules. just numbs the smell cells, I guess.
mircea_popescu: sure. but as a matter of principle, the naive 1990s hippy "here's a thing i found, i am using it now" thing jumped the shark.
asciilifeform: as americans used to say 'good indians are in the cemetary'
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "not evil" us corps.
adlai: i guess everything's clonable, so that's the wrong analogy to make; physical unclonable items would be used for authentication ('thing is as i remember it'), shared secrets are used for secure communication
asciilifeform: when i used word 'unclonable' - that's meant literally. as in, no one will produce a matching half of that broken glass
asciilifeform: as adlai pointed out, there is ample info bounding the possible plaintexts available in the ciphertext
mircea_popescu: crpto, 3k years ago as today : if naively implemented, trivial. if not... well.... ahem.
adlai: the scytale cipher is equivalent to drawing a long table with six rows (adding columns as needed), and writing out the message to fill the column; then all the letters are jumbled. but the letters remain unchanged
adlai: gathering and interpreting actual information is a totally different story, and there's a huge amount of information that most/all human traders totally *ignore*, and that's as mike_c said - past order book movements
asciilifeform: it tells you (or would, if could be written, but the most you can hope for is an approximation, as the problem - even with all the necessary data - is np-complete) the theoretical maximum that could have been achieved
jurov: they could be using my gizmo only if it worked as boiler room
adlai not sure if he counts as a 'folks with a clue'
asciilifeform: or that jurov's gizmo doesn't function exactly as printed on crate.
mike_c: i'll leave it at this - you will come up with a number that is just as useful with public info as you would with non-public info.
asciilifeform: as in, the maximum one could have hoped to earn on coinbr in a particular time interval starting with x btc
danielpbarron: asciilifeform's got a good point though, with such little amounts you aren't going to move the market -- might as well just pretend trade in a txt file ☟︎
asciilifeform: as amusement park - works.
mike_c: there's nothing wrong with taking a few btc and playing around on coinbr as a way to learn more about btc finance world.
danielpbarron: it can be interesting with as little as .. 5 .. 10 coins
mike_c: same reason as havelock. buy a few shares and you feel a part of something big.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if homo redditicus were only a problem because 'spamming the orderbook', that would be another thing. a bot could theoretically 'vacuum up the chump money' and that's that. But - they, as i understand, spam support lines, public fora, and overall poison the atmosphere in ways not outweighed by the pennies they bring in
felipelalli: jurov: maybe a year plan would be nice as well.
jurov: you can see it as pause
asciilifeform: (which is as it ought to be)
mike_c: as has been more or less proven in here before, the big miners aren't buying KNC/bitmain/whoever rigs.
asciilifeform: price drops as supply exceeds demand << this is like finding a corpse and declaring 'he died from not breathing'
mike_c: then the absence of that demand would suppress the price. whether this leads to flat, falling, or only "not rising as much" price
mike_c: the price drops as supply exceeds demand (in a macro sense). if you believe that draper, silbert, etc. represented demand, and that the demand would have eventually made its way to the exchanges even if not directly
asciilifeform: f someone like Emwazi, whom MI5 had been chasing for years, can simply disappear, only to reappear as the man beheading western journalists (though technically, the videos never show him doing so), then it suggests the entire dragnet is least effective when it is most needed. The Express’ ill-defined sources appear to want to tell a story about SIGINT succeeded rather then explain how it is that SIGINT failed (at least accor
jurov: ^ as per above, it does not affect organic molecules. just numbs the smell cells, I guess. ☟︎
assbot: Ozone Generators that are Sold as Air Cleaners | Indoor Air | US Environmental Protection Agency ... ( http://bit.ly/18mqbsC )
asciilifeform: when configured as 'air cleaner' they tend to piss out ozone
asciilifeform: doubles as air filter.
kakobrekla: but then second problem is running them slow enough - which only bq did as far as my tests went
BingoBoingo: Sometimes other kinds blows as well.
thestringpuller: adlai: that part of the book/movie is creepy as fuck.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [05:53] am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ? << would this be the ancient "gpg wot" standard?
mircea_popescu: 100 btc guy goes free (o oops, a DIFFERENT group got him just as he was leaving our compound)
BingoBoingo adires tedu as guy aho makes bullshit mor menory safe, questions... the rest pf the corpus
asciilifeform: not that widget, as specced, uses http/s for anything
asciilifeform: as it quite certainly could have been
mircea_popescu: holy shit 2k lines that aren't your own are hard as fucking coffin nails
asciilifeform: am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: You initially gave him a small negative rating out of dislike and it was described as such. I hung him for fabricating allegations of theft.
asciilifeform: (common lisp has a standard-cum-rationale and it isn't quite as deliciously readable)
danielpbarron: i gave rozal -10 for being a self described liar, and some others got a -1 or -2 for striking me as sketchy..
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yes. Not vodka really. Just plain grain alcohol... and time... and dreams... of USia giving me brown people as a target...
BingoBoingo: As a USian I have to assume ISIS must be bad, and therefore Obumer sucks for not letting me take potshots at them.
asciilifeform refrains from going into deep tangent re: how iran may well have joined euro camp rather than descending into strange if it hadn't been spat upon as 'eastern monkeys' when tried
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your plague is high standards. So long as their only demand is I shoot brown people, then I and them will be fine.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But if brackwasser wants my hands they cn knock on my door as the FBI and Treasury department did.