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mircea_popescu: there's a difference between well and wide, for fuck's sake. what is
this, intellectual fast fooding
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:31 asciilifeform:
the #1 entry is gut-bustingly lulzy
to asciilifeform , because i spend ~half year auditing a multilinear-map
thing for $rupturefarm, and even was sent
to a 'conference' where 'serious cryptographers' did not even blink when someone walked in with a proof
that whole
thing was crock of shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so why
the fuck is "amply agreeable" called "well understood".
mircea_popescu: what
the fuck "cryptographic research community", at
that ? what's
THIS even mean, "cenaclul poetilor judeteni", aka "country poet's club" ?
mircea_popescu: i confess i'm mildly concerned when i don't see
these "well understood" shits.
mircea_popescu: me either,
tbh. is
this also part of
the "well understood distinction" ?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 17:21 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'holy fuck, i
thought we hit rock bottom but
then heard a knock from below' lulz,
http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mcleod/index.html << 'professor of engineering'
tries
to argue in favour of old-fashioned , carmichaelizable primality litmus ~instead~ of m-r, on acct of
the 'rarity of carmichael #s' .
diana_coman: asciilifeform, authors seem
to be with some Uni in London still so probably reachable, yes; but it's still an email first anyway, you know?
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-27#1890343 -> a paper with actual content, ha!
though I rather doubt
the authors' statement
that "the need for careful distinction between non-adversarial (or random) and adversarial primality
testing is of course well understood in
the cryptographic research community."
☝︎ mircea_popescu: nowadays, smartphones are within half a second of each other -- jobs fixed paris
timekeeping!
mircea_popescu: the original said "The French don't like being famous for
their incapacity of being on
time ? Let
them fix
their watches somehow
to
the same hour, so
they quit going about Paris, apparent adults, with half hour's delta among what
their watches show. " and i'm willing
to attest even as late as LAST DECADE
this was a factual state of affairs.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-26 04:57 mircea_popescu: and i'm cordially invited
to sponsor his delusion. and if i opt not
to, he will... RETRY.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no, but lots of people ~actually look~ at
those images and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a narrative is a set of interconnected events. as long as no interconnectedness is proposed, it's not a narrative, whether fictitious or factual. so you could say a painting is plastic fiction (while a photography plastic realism). cuz
they're not narrative.
mircea_popescu: cheaper
than buying another pipe,
that's for damn sure.
mircea_popescu: exercises in narrative fiction for
the fat and
the dizzy.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. because
there is such a
thing as experts, and
the femstate spawns
them.
mircea_popescu: the fucking gall of
these imbecile schmucks,
then
turning around going "oh, you shouldn't amateur"
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy. you gonna
take an article off once you publish
to show off both his
tests and your results ?
mircea_popescu: ~nobody left
that does work, because nobody left
that can work, because nobody left
that even knows what work fucking looks like.
mircea_popescu: well, one possible explanation is "the smartphone revolution" : it managed
to make say a butler overexpensive
through
the simple application of "why should i practice being stiff when i could just catpic all day". conceivably, if it managed
to reduce
the butler population
to practical zero, it might've reduced others
too.
phf: i would not have been surprised
though..
phf: asciilifeform: yeap, i've been keeping up with what you've been publishing on
the subject. i'm looking forward
to your xray results, i mean
that's not something i
thought would be doable at home, even if a home lab
mircea_popescu: the problem with knowledge : as reality scales with
the set, knowledge scales with
the powerset. not even calling it exponential does it justice.
phf: i don't understand how anyone can read
the logs with one eye,
this shit's exponential: i'm behind on ffa, so
the recent work on e.g. gcd or miller-rabin is particularly slow going.
phf: asciilifeform: up
to date
phf: unfortunately i failed
to make careful note of various vpatch appearances.
there's been some by people other
than asciilifeform and diana_coman where
the author didn't explicitly request a btcbase upload. so if anyone's explicitly missing a vpatch
that
they want
to be up on btcbase, please leave note with me, privmsg also works
phf: still alive, been keeping up with
the logs, but not much else
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm digging
through stuff and apparently Israel doesn't have a strong opinion on Vzla regime change is
the US isn't going
to have a strong opinion on Syria regime change seems
to be
the sentiment.
BingoBoingo: AHA, but still even when china is shitting out products whether or not people ask quality varies and
the US does not appear
to recieve
the best
BingoBoingo: There's also
the excellent Chicom crescent wrench acquired from
tienda inglesa which surpases
the quality of "crescent" brand crescent wrenches available commercially in USistan
BingoBoingo: I have no concrete idea, but
the gulf in quality between export grade chinese
tooling and domestic chinese
tooling is suggestive
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Could be China doesn't publish
their national security export restricted list?
diana_coman: anyways, I'm not pushing
this strongly as "this is how I actually
think it was" - as I said previously, I don't
think I know enough
to have much
to say either way
diana_coman: I suppose
the argument is
that
they still were
the same
thing i.e.
that
the fineness & precision differences were not so crucial as
to make
the result essentially something else; I can see it as such and fwiw
that'd have been
the default way
to see it - if not for all
the experience of "things
that people call X and supposedly is made out of same
things as X but different in implementation"
mircea_popescu: much like lenses, really,
the difference between a very expensive and a very cheap glass wasn't substantial, both made of polished glass. but much different in implementation, made of complicatedly boiled glass hand polished over months or not.
mircea_popescu: well, for a long
time
the movements in cheap and expensive clocks were ~same, with mostly a difference of fineness, precision of machining,
to distinguish
them.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, perhaps re clocks
though I keep
thinking
that
the cheap ones were as clocks as current smartphones are computers
Mocky: by
the looks of it, will go approx 4 days without food money before first paycheck, so
this was cut pretty close
mircea_popescu: diana_coman if you
think about it,
that's strictly impossible.
they do indeed show delta
time each
tick, so it's dead reckoning. how
the heck would
they produce strictly random
time.
mircea_popescu: (fwiw, i got
trilema comments on feedbot 's rss, so it notifies me if/when anyone says something)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 18:13 phf: i supper proper presentation of fg schematics in a v-tron is either in
the style of
the marine chronometer book i have next
to me or not at all. "taking first
the essentials, c is
the escape wheel.
the escapement consists of
the bar E, carrying
the
two projections e, e' etc". everything else ought
to be handled separately
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 04:27 phf: re "apprentice as watchmaker" i picked up first edition of
The Marine Chronometer by Gould. i would call it "delightful"
diana_coman: ahaha, I refrained from commenting because I
thought "uhm, I have NO idea exactly HOW were
those watches broken" but my first
thought was
that
they were likely unpredictably broken i.e. each will show ~random hour rather
than "time with x error"