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asciilifeform: esthlos: do you understand that v, deliberately and as a fundamental design choice, has no merging ?
asciilifeform: hmm yea this doesn't fit the style of the other pgs, i'ma make it 1 colour
asciilifeform: ( 'factor' pgs also, i suspect, could use one )
asciilifeform: this is the correct picture. i'ma add a legend on top of the tbl.
asciilifeform: ( it should read 'factor / # M / when found ' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the column headers do not show in yer browser ?
asciilifeform: esthlos: when folx do as you described, it is called 'regrind' and is very labour-intensive, and is never done without a substantial reason
asciilifeform: esthlos: yer missing, i suspect , whole point of v
asciilifeform: wtf, why would you put it on genesis, rather than diana_coman's proggy
asciilifeform: how can removal of crud be 'complication' ?!
asciilifeform: ( don't build boxes with swap! it is riotously stupid thing to do, full stop )
asciilifeform: 0 use
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was a specific chumpatronic term used by koch et al
asciilifeform: at some point in near future i'ma add annotations per factor (e.g. 'debian', 'mikrotik', etc )
asciilifeform: ( they are sorted by # of mods that contain said factor, i.e. the middle column, the clickable one )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806202 << how wouldja change the markup? i thought it was pretty clear, on http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors page, that you click the modcount to get the page of that factor , with detail ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i have no intention of ever building anything whatsoever on it , myself )
asciilifeform: esthlos: it was gonna, then barfed and abandoned mpi 4evah
asciilifeform: i suspect that swapping only even exists as a possibility in current day os because of wreckers.
asciilifeform: *linuxbox
asciilifeform: esthlos: imho absolutely not; i haven't built a linix box with swapping to disk enabled, in decade+ ( 'secure alloc' simply means 'marked unswappable' ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( not ready for primetime yet, but it boots my kernel )
asciilifeform: phf: if it wasnt clear -- problem is solved, i have the machine going
asciilifeform: i'ma read comments/barfology laters; off to ffa room nao!
asciilifeform: ( see bottom of http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/stats and from there self-explanatory )
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG phuctor readers: new pheatures.
asciilifeform: !!up her
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: i have this on my conveyor under 'make arm gnat' but not gotten to it yet.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it doesn't have to screw with the machinewide gcc; can do as part of buildroot ( iirc buildroot even supports auto-building gnat the same way i built e.g. arm7 gcc with it; but requires a running gnat to be present on the machine where it is done )
asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: !#s build gnat
asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik not! ( aside from the amply discussed sad phakt that building it requires a working gnat bin to be found somewhere else )
asciilifeform: spyked: though iirc on rare occasions trinque's thing rang the bell twice for same one, on account of rss being an ill-conceived hack at birth
asciilifeform: spyked: multiple factors.
asciilifeform: this kinda thing happily carries on right until the moment the plank drops and the noose tightens, at nuremberg
asciilifeform: or prolly better known today in ru, from the mouth of vyshinsky, 'Признание - царица доказательств'
asciilifeform: how'd it go, confessio est regina probationum (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: dun forget 'the signed confession' (not yet from him, supposedly, but there is always next day)
asciilifeform: been a while since i heard of anybody jailed for ~selling~ warez on physical disk tho. i was convinced these died with the '90s
asciilifeform: mod6: still recovering from whatever that was i picked up.
asciilifeform: heya mod6
asciilifeform: douchebag: historically i've found that setting up a gentoo box to 'workstation' standard takes 2-3 wks. (depending , though less than you might think, on the speed of the comp.) fortunately 99+% of the work has already been done for you on that box.
asciilifeform: ( see the mod6 thread . )
asciilifeform: douchebag: ls -ltr /var/log/portage and find the emerge log and you can see what it does.
asciilifeform wonders why this required a screenshit
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-22#342309
asciilifeform: which you do NOT want on that box
asciilifeform: or it will try to build xorg
asciilifeform: you gotta ban xorg if yer a vim user
asciilifeform: kill it. and read mod6's experience in #pizarro
asciilifeform: how much 'everything' do you actually need.
asciilifeform: and this incl. ~all~ contents, incl compiler
asciilifeform: for instance, rebuilding world on the rockchip ( a quite modest comp ) takes about a day and a half
asciilifeform: depends on how much your 'everything' weighs, neh
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ see log
asciilifeform: !#s from:asciilifeform gentoo
asciilifeform: gentoo.
asciilifeform: eh nm
asciilifeform: got own gentoo box at home ?
asciilifeform: so what was the 'getting used to gentoo' about ?
asciilifeform is confused : douchebag only now thought to log in to the box for 1st time ??
asciilifeform: or you lost yer copy, or what
asciilifeform: douchebag: this was presumably your rockchip login ? if as you said you are 'getting used to gentoo', you already have it ?
asciilifeform: !#s http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fgc0N/?raw=true
asciilifeform: how am i to know what this was ?
asciilifeform: and what file
asciilifeform: we dun have a vps
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: ( this goes for all potential subscribers. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most obvious reason would be if he wants to make own linux for it.
asciilifeform: douchebag: lemme know if you run into problems. also see my www, i posted a recipe for how to make the same box at home, to test on.
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform laboured under the notion that parrots in city oughta emit such sounds as motorcycle vroom, horns, etc
asciilifeform: ( or.. do they?? mircea_popescu knows ? )
asciilifeform: afaik those dun talk..
asciilifeform: i didn't notice any 'proper' parrot in BingoBoingostan. only the little green argentine type.
asciilifeform: ( picture, why would rathead suddenly ask after pizarro )
asciilifeform: aa lol the usg provocateur d00d
asciilifeform: renovations?! they rust?!?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what was he selling ?
asciilifeform: in unix world it is the buttons that ~don't~ biteyerdickoff , that are remarkable.
asciilifeform: ^ re the dd example, if it wasn't clear
asciilifeform: ( possibly at issue here is abuse of terminology -- folx call this 'shelling out' but e.g. /bin/sh does not run )
asciilifeform: trinque: that's consistent with execv call
asciilifeform: ( at least re my copy of sbcl )
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : jurov is right )
asciilifeform: why puzzle, see output of strace
asciilifeform: jurov: i can't resist to ask -- how's that, and vs what
asciilifeform: triumph?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that -- punishment. drepping -- the crime.
asciilifeform: or, can also verb: drepping
asciilifeform: verily, it is fixed!
asciilifeform: perhaps moar interestingly, also of stroke victims who genuinely think 'i can move that arm, just haven't been feeling like it'
asciilifeform: hey, was stamped 'entomology'!11
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in entomology dept, https://archive.li/9fLe8 ( continuation of ancient and forgotten lulzfest http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-13#1655371 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: presumably faraday-caged, lol
asciilifeform: never did get the airport wifi to work, iirc
asciilifeform only ever been in panamacityairport, and hated erry minute of it