log☇︎
49500+ entries in 1.078s
ag3nt_zer0: seems like some pretty dark statistics here... shouldn't "we" be concerned? or am i missing something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
adlai doesn't understand why anybody building 'professional' (as in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861 ) tools would even want to use CLIM... maybe he's just a sucker for text
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: lol, I've put off learning ternary specifically so I don't end as one of those "homeless math people".
gabriel_laddel: I sunk a lot of time into it (and got it working) only to realize that I don't want to javascript no matter how s-expressiony it is. ☟︎
trinque: but then, if you already have it's not as though I wouldn't look at it
trinque: yeah taking it easy, haven't seen them in about two years; I'm in no rush
phf: i think maybe it's worthwhile to patch the logger so it doesn't report until the client actually does a read/write. if you do a port scan on yourself, will have same effect
whaack: trinque: apologies didn't realize I was spamming. I'll fix my settings.
phf: oh, that's coconuts, but you still don't want to touch them, since the sanitation no longer works
phf: i wouldn't even attempt to replicate the feat with, say, gcc
asciilifeform: and still wouldn't do it again today.
phf: asciilifeform: i enjoyed working with lispworks team in the past. i don't think it's proprietary in the same sence as msvs or such. you have to buy into a relationship, but once you have a contract with them, they are accommodating. you can ask them for source if you actually want to inspect it for lizard hitler traces and compile it yourself
asciilifeform: phf: i can't fathom why any sane person would voluntarily use a proprietary compiler today
trinque: but can't speak for years ago
asciilifeform: oh and 'Smoke' doesn't work
trinque: commonqt wasn't a terrible gasmask
asciilifeform: if it doesn't matter what it looks like, at all, can use the horrendous x11 'athena' widgets
punkman: I don't really care about native-looking
BingoBoingo: adlai: fxd, though I shouldn't have. If he wanted attention paid to his name he should have opted out of government and identified as a public key.
punkman: wait, didn't mp use cubic meter of water per shower. 3 cubic meters of water for golf course sounds reasonable
asciilifeform: one thing i don't get
asciilifeform: the anecdote is that once upon a time, a peasant was selling a turkey, a rarity at the time; and that he knew that a parrot sells for 15 talers, he asked for 30, given as 'turkey is twice the size.' buyer asked, 'but parrot can talk, can your bird?' peasant replied: 'doesn't talk, but thinks 2x as much'
jurov: if *they* aren't supplied, then it goes havoc
asciilifeform: the other thing that these faux sugars won't do, is,
jurov: i don't say honey diet is not dangerous. just you don't feel so starved
punkman: jurov: what I don't put other food in my sugar? I just scoop it out the box?
pete_dushenski can't imagine a blog with 75 years of content
mircea_popescu: you don;'t understand how the world works.
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 15:35:04; mircea_popescu: and then it will be 200, and then 100, and then you simply won't be able to get a container there. at all.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1327066 << why not have price go back over $1k per container ? why have no freight industry at all after price crash and shucking off of excess capacity and firms who can't handle dumping ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: specifically, that there are two kids of people : the addicts, who aren't people, and the actual people. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: herp. nsa can't hire either.
mircea_popescu: "This cost-benefit analysis doesn't end at successful exploitation. According to Snowden, the TAO—that’s Tailored Access Operations—operators running the FOXACID system have a detailed flowchart, with tons of rules about when to stop. If something doesn't work, stop. If they detect a PSP, a personal security product, stop. If anything goes weird, stop. This is how the NSA avoids detection, and also how it takes m
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform get a load of this : boxen weren't rebooted.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it isn't sop by any means. but happens occasionally.
asciilifeform: only thing i ever really tried was t
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1326888 << i don't actually ocr my scans, ever. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so now tell me a little more about ddos and basic bojums and whatnot. << Fuck there isn't even a business of datacenter
mircea_popescu: what the fuck isn't a fucking gag.
mircea_popescu: and then it will be 200, and then 100, and then you simply won't be able to get a container there. at all. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "i don't own the boat but the merchandise within"
mircea_popescu: it just means you don't get out enough.
asciilifeform: they weren't nuke-proof, no. but they ~were~ 'oops, i'm an orc and forgot to pay the bills at the place i secretly resell you'-proof.
mircea_popescu: <DianaComan> incidentally mircea_popescu is that Eulora poster available in some format that can be easily printed? guess it can't hurt to get some copies pinned around the uni campus here
mircea_popescu: even if you're not a fan of the foundation of rome/end of thebes mythology, even if you don't particularly enjoy the jewish sodomah/gomorrah stories, what do you think would be the stable solution here ?
jurov: societies where wars are fought on honor instead of satisfying the cravings don't need it, also they scarcely need to manage "delayed consumption" so much
adlai: it's a rather inevitable progression, the only sure way to avoid it is to learn from those who didn't
mircea_popescu: must be great to inhabit reality-free world. as alf says, the commonplace, sane constraint of being economically +ev - isn't there.
asciilifeform: (because the commonplace, sane constraint of being economically +ev - isn't there)
asciilifeform: kinda funny usg story - 30k balance? no prob. but when i asked for 20kg of Pb brick for pedestal, so it wouldn't wander at 4th dec place when the lifts went up & down in the hallway - they never happened
asciilifeform: it wasn't a hermetic seal, but rather a kind of inverted glass beaker with very small hole for the robopipette
phf: pete_dushenski, i haven't followed the whole scene since the time when i had to research the question for a project, but it was apparently acquired by paypal in 2013. hxxp://techcrunch.com/2013/09/26/paypal-acquires-payments-gateway-braintree-for-800m-in-cash/
mircea_popescu: anyway. i hadn't any idea such a thing as "British Board of Film Certification" existed. amusingly, i still don't. nice reddit name or w/e it was, facebook trademark.
wao_: mircea_popescu: no, I don't own hosting company, where I'm going I don't need names :)
wao_: 10G ddos, that isn't a lot, right?
lobbes can't wait until #b-a hosting is a thing
mircea_popescu: if you try and ping by domain name it can't resolve ; if you try and ping by ip it can't route.
lobbes: <mircea_popescu> i'm unpersuaded it has anything to do with any ddos << when I attempt to ping, I get the 'can't find host' message rather than just 100% packet loss
mircea_popescu: i don't recall the name of his company.
BingoBoingo: From the I can't even files https://archive.is/jJV8H
mircea_popescu: let me give you a pro tip : pretty much all women i currently own were involved in a relationship when we met. two thirds of them were involved in a relationship with a dude who "can't X until Y".
mircea_popescu: ironically, bitbet doesn't log ips.
punkman: ascii_field: why is log ip important, who doesn't log ip?
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: How are you sure you aren't still asleep?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu looked like he was about to have aneurism. please don't! i did not want to piss on his parade, but must point out that if $magichost folks do the same exact thing as the last 1,001 folks, they will get... same result
mircea_popescu: "oh, wait, i didn't mean each individual one". mk.
pete_dushenski: should rename buildings after university president, who couldn't POSSIBLY own slaves... because tuition !
ascii_field won't be surprised to see a usg 'official truth' where 'bedbug is harmless and is a wonderful ethnic diversity gift !111111'
pete_dushenski: 'Venmo's core peer-to-peer service doesn't cost its users anything, so the company doesn't make money from it.'
pete_dushenski: i guess venmo and paypal aren't so distinct after all.
pete_dushenski: it's like a romanov-era aristocrat growing out his fingernails to show off that he didn't have to do manual labour : do it because you can
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2015#1326256 << this situation is probably more confusing to the soi-dissant 'entreprenuer' than anything else imagineable. 'what, you don't want me to solve a problem that i think is a problem because reasons ? what, you don't want me to develop an app to disrupt industry x while simultaneously bending over backwards to comply with every last damn regulation designed to ☝︎
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: retired, not a retard https://youtu.be/DDW4hTWbRYs?t=19m25s
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wouldn't you expect if i hired a tramp to flood my business for the insurance his story would be "he wanted to strand his wife so he could fish and have an affair" ? << lol
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2015#1326140 << it hasn't rained much money this year, but nor has it been a decade+. so yea, making own dc is 'too hard' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2015 13:57:52; mircea_popescu: anyway, the guy has a point, and szabo's theory is not merely just silly, it's a sympthom of a larger western pathology (he's basically looking for an excuse, ANY excuse, just as long as it doesn't come to *a better quality of people*, because he's nuts with this racism bullcrap like the rest of the anglos.)
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect if i hired a tramp to flood my business for the insurance his story would be "he wanted to strand his wife so he could fish and have an affair" ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai you don't understand the magical power of "afaik" in defense of the holy "basic bojum".
mircea_popescu: orly, they don't ?
mircea_popescu: because you sit there and try and convince everyone that hey, "human wave" and "basic bojum" and whatever other avatars, because you personally need to explain to yourself why you aren't doing it. the thing is that it wouldn't be your job to do ANYWAY! this needs no fucking explaining already.
asciilifeform: hosting market is full of folks who didn't 'stupidly wait for x before y' and 'just did it.' but it seems like their offerings are not cutting it ?
mircea_popescu: it's just people being needed that do ~well~ things you don't like and don't understand (these two not necessarily unrelated).
mircea_popescu: the only reason we aren't is a) impotence ; b) no b.
mircea_popescu: contrary to any justifications people use to explain to themselves why they aren't picking this very juicy, extremely low hanging fruit (which plenty might even be right in doing, but not usually for the reasons they give - it's more like, they suck at doing the slow, patient, dilligent sort of work that this, like all bureaucracy entails, etc)
shinohai: Someone didn't bother reading said SOP's
shinohai: Unlike my fellow litigants, I hired someone to plan out my monies so I didn't have to go on dole.
asciilifeform: it won't aim & fire itself.
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mean personally either of you.
mircea_popescu: but i dun care what you meant. i care what i meant. and what i meant is, you don't live in the street because "if landlord hears btc he flees".
asciilifeform: t life."'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you see any ads about how leprosy "can't be contacted" ?
asciilifeform: i'd say 'cheap' but it isn't even cheap.
mircea_popescu: that's what i do. i'm a business man. i can't actually do anything.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "you can't catch gonorhea from fucking 10k partners"
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the way HIV is lionized it probably won't be long before the US FDA approves it as a treatment for allergies
mircea_popescu: b) you don't go around putting up posters saying smoking can't make you stupid.
mircea_popescu: a) you don't go around putting up posters saying obesity "can't" give you tuberculosis.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you know it CAN'T ? for one thing, it CAN. for another thing, why the fuck is taxpayer paying for this.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but i'm developing overexposure allergy to this "i don't understand anything so therefore here's my expert opinion on things" << I kinda handle it the same way one handles lower animals acting in ignorance of the futility of their efforts. Birds hitting windows, dogs barking at trains, rabbits fleeing pedestrians into traffic...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no because it doesn't matter anyway because reasons.