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mircea_popescu: felipelalli there's a difference between making cars
as in, making a trabant, making cars
as in, making a cardboard cut-out of a car, and making cars
as in, making ford pintos, which explode killing their passengers.
danielpbarron: or uh.. USG guy joins IRC and identifies himself
as such
mircea_popescu: "The LightEater attack would take an unskilled attacker such
as a maid or border guard two minutes of physical access to a target laptop."
nubbins`: <+Adlai> there are a bunch of different concepts which are getting wrapped up together
as "taint" so let's stop using that word, it's about
as helpful
as "jew"
Adlai: in the case of 'taint', it's: treat bitcoin
as fungible, but don't make life easier for those who don't
nubbins`: so then why don't we just ask mp to create a dummy bet page, and list tim draper's stash
as the output?
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, "unwelcome money" is about
as self-consistent
as "human dignity" or "representative democracy"
nubbins`: why is 1F3fzDm5yM5dsPmP9andV2UJgSvrsLHXXm unwelcome money? because it's listed
as an output address on
http://bitbet.us? Adlai: there are a bunch of different concepts which are getting wrapped up together
as "taint" so let's stop using that word, it's about
as helpful
as "jew"
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt that after he ignored the "if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x
as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track." bit he's in a position to grok this one, but hey.
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire
as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 1 month 4 days ago ... (
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assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire
as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 1 month 4 days ago ... (
http://bit.ly/1MYAYXH )
nubbins`: perhaps i can explain this succinctly,
as i had this same convo some time ago
Adlai: it's much more complicated than a single number, same
as you can't scalarize "trust" - but taint
as i've defined it exists, in the blockchain - outside of the mind.
Adlai: blockchain.info pander to idiots by misrepresenting this
as taint(address1,address2) = percentage
Adlai: taint in
as meaningful
as the person you're trying to do business with thinks it is
mircea_popescu: Adlai didja eat dumb this morning ? i put 100 btc on one side, of your taint, and 100 btc on the other side, you don't know about. if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x
as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of "lalala taint doesn't exit". taint exists exactly
as much and exactly for the reasons god "exists"
Adlai: then the idiot using a betting site
as a tumbler, got what they deserved
Adlai: let's say i've identified a certain address A
as coins that are "not welcome here". i see it move coin to address B, so i sniff around and notice that B is a deposit address on bitbet, with winnings going to C. i add C to the list of unwelcome money.
danielpbarron: someone should tell the exit scammers about bitbit
as an option for mixing
mircea_popescu: about
as sensible
as the "paradise" of xtians, or ragnarok or w/e.
mircea_popescu: and yes the brain's not a leviathan. nothing is. that only exists
as a first line of fantasy, no place ever worked like that except in the bookish literotica of state-wankers.
danielpbarron: i was planning on handing them out at porcfest
as i attempt to interview people
mircea_popescu: should be glorified or cared about
as being any more "special" than a
mircea_popescu: ie, we've built a much larger % of the computers that could be than there's been people alive
as a % of the people that could be.
nubbins`: given that more people are familiar with changing DNS servers
as a result of wanting to watch american netflix, you'll see the turnaround on these things get shorter
nubbins`:
as you can see, the biggest thing is to not adhere the spine of the book block
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 21:10:47; felipelalli: mircea_popescu: Where can I find objective arguments against BTCJam?
As a lending service and reputation system? And what are the alternatives for P2P lending or we don't have? They have 113,000 users, should they be ignored?
nubbins`: it might
as well be "i can fly over a cemetery
as long
as i'm playing tetris on a nintendo game boy"
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 23:54:02; nubbins`: there's a large chunk of the book that could be misidentified
as schizo by the unqualified observer
mircea_popescu: iirc i said then, i mostly measure intelligence in person by derived units, such
as reaction speeds.
mircea_popescu: but to belabour the point : one of the principal reasons "measuring iq"
as it were height is so ridiculous, is because nobody has yet had an off day for height.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: same difference
as between being a doctor and practicing medicine.
mircea_popescu: what, down sindrome ? that's uncontroversial
as it gets.
mircea_popescu: the same sort of thing
as "well... french nobles had lice. just like the peasants. and died of tb"
mircea_popescu: ut of the house to outface his ignominy by drunken rejoicings. But when the crisis is over he takes his revenge, swaggering
as the breadwinner, and speaking of Woman’s “sphere” with condescension, even with chivalry,
as if the kitchen and the nursery were less important than the office in the city. When his swagger is exhausted he drivels into erotic poetry or sentimental uxoriousness; and the Tennysonian King Ar
mircea_popescu: i dun think there's anything that can be done in a whole decade of "education" that's
as valuable
as kid having mother at home first year.
mircea_popescu: people go nuts.
as if babies are required to come from the stork, and for free, because htey're wrapped up too tightly to consider fucking.
mircea_popescu:
as far
as i'm concerned, giving a mother a year off at childbirth is perfectly reasonable.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes, something like that.
as if you could only be right before or right after the door but not in between.
mircea_popescu:
as a rule of thumb, the first occurs over tiny distances, the 2nd is distance-invariant
nubbins`: actually, bird book has gold on black
as well
mircea_popescu: i can go for that
as a qntra perk. you gonna be willing to keep the design and make more of the same if these folks run out / for new folks ?
mircea_popescu: only
as a result of having taken ownserhip of teh citizenry.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> tries to exercise a delusion of control over his environment via the only means he knows how - by smearing his surroundings, and if you let him - entire planets - with his shit << this, is, fundamentally, "social media",
as the recent maddox link amply explains.
mircea_popescu: the word for this can be "civilised", but it just
as well be "fucking stupid".
mircea_popescu: exactly. my objection isn't particularly that the cat got hurt
as much
as it is the guy didn't.
nubbins`: thestringpuller have you ever thought of eating a large quantity of muscle meat
as running a tough program? 8)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you may appreciate this thought. So I like XC running, so I just like to run to work out. At some point it's like your body is heating up like a GPU trying to run a video game (hence sweat). So I've always thought of exercising
as our bodies running "tough programs". lol
Adlai: the meaning of 'me' which is consistent in this system is: "the thing which you perceive yourself
as communicating with"
trinque: asciilifeform: I began criticizing the idea that all of the infinite me's are to be considered
as though they are the me driving the keyboard
Adlai: (functions
as a plot element, not a copout)
nubbins`: there's a large chunk of the book that could be misidentified
as schizo by the unqualified observer
☟︎ Adlai: most people roleplaying at conventions aren't even
as 'dissociated'
as a good method actor
trinque:
as opposed to the right practice
danielpbarron: Adlai> note that you can actually get cevs by doing just this, if you can keep your eyeballs from moving for ~5 minutes << i used to do this when getting lecured by my mother
as a child
Adlai: someone (iirc dennett) lamented that everybody has their own theory of consciousness,
as though this was a bad thing!
trinque: Adlai: dennett went down that road too
as I recall
Adlai: yes. in such a multiverse, there are an infinite number of identical 'people', but each one thinks of itself
as itself. the others are fungible, but the self is unique.
nubbins`: if you accept the multiverse
as an axiom, there are already infinitely many copies of the universe in which the entirety of states that the atoms of your brain will ever arrange themselves in are precisely identical
brendafdez: it still is, at least
as of last week i got ddosed when entering the chan
danielpbarron: i ordered what was described
as "pocket sized" and it turned out to be much larger
nubbins`: jurov i think it's used more
as a reference manual than a novel
danielpbarron: i'd like more NKJV but they just aren't
as widly produced
ascii_field: Shrugged, A New Kind of Science, and then other people chimed in with suggestions for Gray's Anatomy, The Chicago Manual of Style, and the 25-year anniversary edition of Gödel, Escher, Bach, all of them arguing that if I wanted the most important book, I would want their suggestions. I scremed, "Enough!", and space just
as suddenly warped back to the bookstore and the very helpful young Muslim woman behind the counter
nubbins`: the edges this plough makes are
as smooth
as fucking /glass/.
ascii_field: but i can laser print and perforate
as well
as the next guy.