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asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: plox to try the 'heavy' log pgs, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927995
a111: Logged on 2019-07-14 08:12 mp_en_viaje: so since thelastpsychiatrist.com went all fucking stupid (cloudflare aside, and mountain of pointless js aside, there's a spurious 1min delay before any pageload also now!), i scraped the article list both from archive page and category page, and downloaded the list.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 09:25:32 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927269 << cool deal.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/ ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 18:27:27 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in goange, i give you https://imgs.mongabay.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2019/02/15234715/Schizodactylus-monstrosus-from-Arunachal-Pradesh-.-768x512.jpg
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re 'delete file', it isn't quite a simple, cuz fs ops are potentially locking. i elided what means 'wipe the cache' for brevity, but there's a knob.
asciilifeform: currently they do work separately, if one were to tunnel the pgism. but mp_en_viaje has the point, that 'who knows if this even will ever be needed'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:56:38 mp_en_viaje: whenever they're linked
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> BingoBoingo, typical tropes of oldwoman fiction. << Typical tropes in a particular case that have high lulz potential Q3-Q4 of next year when North Argentina recycles
bvt: mp_en_viaje: i think there are two aspects: 1. readability (whether readers would be able to understand what is going on; in that vpatch the changes are local enough); 2. atomicity (whether someone would ever want to have one fix without the other; here my position is much weaker -- perhaps someone would want to have a crash on empty vpatches?)
asciilifeform: achtung panzers : test of next ver of log www ; spyked you have the newtab thing ; mp_en_viaje you have the checkerboard (lemme know if would rather darker/lighter) ; asciilifeform gets http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log?rev=1 reversal
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc there was a trilema piece re argentards protesting a... bus stop
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: old noose, '82 iirc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: near as i could tell, they were 'protesting' the theoretical non-reelection of obummer. vanished within coupla days of 2012 continuation in office.
mp_en_viaje: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Against_the_Airport_and_its_World.jpg
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: they had this in usa, massive public wank, 'occupy'(tm)(r)
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in "the orc future of the zeklands" lulz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_to_Defend quite illustrative
mp_en_viaje: lol diana_coman breeding electric engineers.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the 1 i actually went into, in timis, was in fact automated, like old arcades
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: a, assumed that 2000s was continuation of '90s, same folx
asciilifeform: prolly will remain 'teletype' until make caching mechanism per mp_en_viaje's algo (or rewrite in cl) whichever comes 1st
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: indeed, in fact 6s here.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-04-18 21:58:18 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : i can't recommend the dsc-rx100 quite warmly enough. it's a splendid sony compact with zeiss lenses that's easily the best camera i ever saw.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thinking about it, it's outgrowth of tcp retardation, where having the client alive costs the server at all times
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i meant specifically in re traditional irc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik we dun use these for anyffin
asciilifeform: while on subj of logger : mp_en_viaje do you still find that 'teletype' ? current ver is ~2x faster than 1st
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: tried to make 'new tab'ism go this morning, when spyked mentioned it, but it'll take some fiddling -- interacts poorly with the regexp-based link highlighting i used in this hasty drumhead logger. so prolly won't happen until much later.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 10:43:46 asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje et al have strong opinion on subj, i'ma make it a knob
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:02:39 mp_en_viaje: 3) the whole of it was always hanging out with the cool people. i don't mean, "cool", as in, swag. i mean cool as in david lynch quote above, dork bought a 12 room house for $3500 in th worst gangland he could find for his wife and newborn kid and lived there, "the fear was palpable"
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: diana_coman: logotron tree updated. ty for the patch .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 07:24:23 mp_en_viaje: that guy was eminently ALSO capable, in the of-this-list sense fo capacity. he wandered off on his own power, there was no "meet mp" moment iirc. but there's inescapably, overpoweringly, a difference between the daimons (one of the first trilema participants, back in 2009), and the phfs (as it happens, the most recent "victim" of my "abusive" approach to disreality) of the world, and nicole on the other.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 07:03:03 mp_en_viaje: in fairness : winamp is like ida -- people who actually need it, end up running windows FOR it
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:52:24 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927792 < what, seriously ? you can just compose : and - in screen. or i think x too. or you know, you \div in latex ? or like... you use R at all.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:13:12 mp_en_viaje: it's basically a tumour grown upon irc protocol.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:22:11 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927780 << I do not expect that's his blog ; item is work of (relatively) well known internet lulzcow, one David Futrelle, a one-time pick-up artist / big man leadership dood meanwhile turned on the other side of the "BUT OBVIOUSLY, do we still have to DO this" cvasi-debate.
asciilifeform: if mp_en_viaje et al have strong opinion on subj, i'ma make it a knob
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:08:14 diana_coman: I also ctrl-click so didn't notice but I don't see the reason to bake in "new window"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 07:12:56 mp_en_viaje: in other news, holy shit spyked that daimon carcass is sad. whole thing fucking became an epitaph of derealisation. "gândește-te așa: dacă azi ai asculta Mafia pentru prima dată, te-ar impresiona atât de tare încât te-ai duce la un al doilea concert?" ; "mă simt oarecum … scos din schemă. Watching from afar, vorba francezilor. Zbaterile locale devin maxim amuzante. Vin firme noi pe piața din Timișoar
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 07:00:04 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927804 << or could also just vlc like normal people.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: they don't come with the interpreter ( hence mentioned as deps )
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman . i will mirror it & the sigs on my www also.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 17:09:12 diana_coman: ah, ah; if you want it there, I can add it (tomorrow though), sure; meant to ask: why no author field in your manifest?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:54:58 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927795 << nope, they're in my own logs too seeing how i put them into teh chat with my own hands.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927867 << this solves ~half~ of lobbes's riddle. observe that they work , when i throw'em in ( as well as all uniturds in phf's and diana_coman's dumps , imported w/out issue )
ave1: mp_en_viaje: Yes, although we travelled on to Vinnitsa right away and I'l be visiting Kiev for 2 days end of August
ave1: mp_en_viaje: Pics made smaller, was not intentional
mp_en_viaje: http://ave1.org/comments/feed/ << missed diana_coman not in the feed (and obv also not in the shorted list on blog side) so now i dunno what it was!
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: hm, it might be, indeed.
ave1: diana_coman: It seems one of your comments ended up in the spambox. Could you try again?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, with amusements like that, who even needs strychnine anymore.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: it's "amusing", right? that "oh, how funny you are trying to do something, how entertaining" is such great heights of being great, I can't even
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 00:04:32 lobbes: could be... hence I think mp_en_viaje is right: I'ma have to publish so the real doctors can help me dissect it
mp_en_viaje: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Futrelle for the drama inclined
spyked: mp_en_viaje, that's a fair point, client behaviour of "open link" (click, ctrl+click etc.) should be a client-side knob.
spyked: diana_coman, ty for the reference. btcbase does distinguish ctcp from the rest of msgs by... removing the ":" after the nick. I don't think it's a big deal either way, just noticed it while reading html log.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: when trying to come up with a reason for it - no, nothing comes up really;
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: myeah, to me all www looks like "big pile of chairs that nobody ever cleaned up at all either"
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, do you see value in maintaining the "ctcp" pile ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 11:03:43 diana_coman: asciilifeform: actions seem to show in logger as text said rather than in any way different; is that intended? I don't quite grok what's the thing with *nick then?
mp_en_viaje: target="_blank" nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i have been taking them out from tlp for instance.
lobbes: could be... hence I think mp_en_viaje is right: I'ma have to publish so the real doctors can help me dissect it
lobbes: in either case, re: upstack I'm going to take mp_en_viaje's advice and just genesis the eulora logger as-is. It is a good point that nobody has to use the genesis *as is* (and indeed, publishing today means I can look back on it tomorrow)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:43:58 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: regarding a) it is because even if genesis-ed the user would need to install and use pip >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-07-28#1925233
asciilifeform: it seems to ~all consist of actual people ( mircea_popescu et al ) discussing numbers
lobbes: speaking of deedbot down, I can't deed, but new output of #eulora ZNC logz at: http://logs.minigame.biz/eulora_log_2015_to_2019.txt.asc
snsabot: Logged on 2017-03-30 10:38:11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will also nitpick : 'erlang' does not belong in the list, it was a 1980s product that worked quite well in its industrial niche (large telco switches) but was later stolen and used as a totem by the folx from yesterday's thread ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633873 )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm starting to think, that asciilifeform is doomed to write a www server
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje iirc was defo a #t article
asciilifeform: i quite distinctly recall that it didn't work worthashit, and mp_en_viaje smashed a keyboard or 2
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what was it you had last tried, iirc 'squid' ?
asciilifeform: rly there oughta be a apache-end util for this, but iirc mp_en_viaje actually went an' tried 9000 of'em and all were duds
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this gets sticky. if knobs (incl. my multiline-select knob) suddenly yer disk cache dun do you good
asciilifeform: theoretically this is Right Thing, mp_en_viaje . only headache is that 'flask' etc shitshow doesn't offer any path to it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: so when does the proggy regen the x-y-z.html on disk ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: say i reply to yesterday's line from mp_en_viaje . nao the cached copy of yesterday's log is logically invalid (dun have the backlink to today's reply)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i actually have cache, simply snipped out of genesis ver, need a few moving gears to invalidate it on 'tail' ('current') page of log when someone speaks
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:21:38 mp_en_viaje: lobbes, yeah you know, can this not be rescued ? i dunno why exactly you're so down on it, but wtf, pretty static pages logotron ftw.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: correct; current bot actually makes no attempt to determine whether in fact fleanode is on other end, or 'netcat' and silence
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha, this oughta suffice
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma have to add this, to the bot, else it cannot be considered automatic
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: tho i suppose this is already enuff to litmus whether in-$chan or not
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dun seem to work when used on chan that you aint in
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: regarding b) I see your confusion. I was talking to diana_coman in #o earlier and I realized I have this bad habit of not really explaining my causes for action, nor my causes for changing course. This leads to confusion all around
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: regarding a) it is because even if genesis-ed the user would need to install and use pip >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-07-28#1925233
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this only worx when in a chan neh
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:39:43 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, but #eulora is open, can join with no reg
asciilifeform: i'd like to continue it here, if mp_en_viaje dun object
lobbes: I was going to make a logotron that displays loglines on a www. The logbot itself is already published (the one made by trinque/ben_vulpes)
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: yeah, I think I might just do that. Make a simple parser that eats (perhaps even from the logbot db) and spits out html. I'll have to think on it
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: well, I still want to complete my own logotron. if there is an interest in a redone version of that old logger, perhaps I can respec
asciilifeform: lobbes, mp_en_viaje : did feedbot actually emit irc lines in #e ? cuz i'm not seeing either http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-03.log.html#t14:41:25 or http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-06.log.html#t16:55:36 or http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-07.log.html#t19:00:04 in mine ?
lobbes: lol mp_en_viaje beat me to the punch
asciilifeform: and diana_coman's defo postdates the revv-up of snsabot
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: then puzzling, cuz http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/eulora is empty
asciilifeform: so lobbes how did the diana_coman piece end up in there then
lobbes: !!deed http://logs.minigame.biz/eulora_log_shitfile_2015_to_2019.txt.asc
bvt: mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2015/the-mp-suicide-self-evaluation-scale/#footnote_11_59975