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gabriel_laddel: they can't do
tree
traversals on
their "structured data"
mircea_popescu: perl people
think
they're using "structured data"
too.
mircea_popescu: if you
think about it, you said so yourself. "if you're /ever/ using
them, you're doing it wrong."
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, would be
the lisp/perl difference imo. lisp does not have strings, perl does not have sexprs. in spite of pretending on each side)
gabriel_laddel: I wouldn't dare draw
that equivalence without agreeing on a formal definition for regexes and
the process in question.
mircea_popescu: so you dispute
that
there's ready biologic equivalents of a regexp match ?
mircea_popescu: (and if it were so well specified, we'd prolly know a lot more of it
than we do)
mircea_popescu: take
the simple fact
that erycridine lactate induces abortion in any
trimester, and without exception. if
this isn't a regex gone wrong, what is ?
gabriel_laddel: which means
that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world. << select portions of humanity have,
to varying degrees created "clean" computing.
mircea_popescu: which means
that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world.
mircea_popescu: at issue is
that we understand enough
to know it runs on perl.
mircea_popescu: generally when an analogy need not enter into a conversation, it's a sign
the conversation's broken.
gabriel_laddel: This conversation bothers me. We don't understand how
to make dragonflies, nor how
the reproductive system works. We know how
to write computer programs
that work -
the failing
to do
the latter correctly is a human failing.
mircea_popescu: that may be. i'm just pointing out
that biology offers a very significant challenge
to
theoretical cs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, idea is
that some people who can't even make dragonfly are in a weak position
to
teach grandmother
to suck eggs, as it were.
gabriel_laddel: we know how
to write computer programs such
that you don't need regexes.
mircea_popescu: and it's perl for exactly
the specified reason, "
the normal failure mode is
to
terminate with no idea how far into
the process you got or how much of an incomplete
task was actually performed"
mircea_popescu: iirc
they proved some of
them actually abord
through some oxygenation pathway
gabriel_laddel: the reason we build abstract machines is because people are not very good at repetitive
tasks.
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu:
they created PCAOB - para-govt auditor of auditors -
to avoid beheadings and only chop off fingers/toes. Beheadings will have
to come exogenously. For log, background on lehman accounting fraud:
http://drillingthrough.com/lehman/ mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel
trisomies are usually aborted. spina bifida usually not. etc.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel no, no, we're
talking about
the reproductive system itself.
gabriel_laddel: you're
talking about
the women in question purposefully aborting her pregnancy?
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard from what i see (and from what i know of
these systems)
there's periodically going
to be a beheading.
mircea_popescu: think about it : foetuses are sometimes aborted. on
the basis of reasons.
gabriel_laddel: I've had sex with a female if
that's what you're asking.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard i suppose it's
the next head on
the chopping block after AA.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how familiar with
the process are you ? like, for instance,
the simple (lol) ShouldAbort() function ?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 02:51:20; mircea_popescu: what
the fuck is deloitte even
gabriel_laddel: in what sense?
that it'll accept all sorts of odd inputs?
mircea_popescu: i see nobody wishes
to engage
the cunt problem. but yes, IT DOES RUN ON PERL.
☟︎ trinque: lotta derps out
there
that can be
taught
to better
themselves.
gabriel_laddel: I mean literally - steal
their bitcoin, hack
their bank accounts
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel perhaps you don't appreciate how deep perl goes, or how unaware perl-people are of
their perl-ness.
gabriel_laddel: About
this "don't feed raw data into your app" and "filtering" nonsense - if you're using a language
that isn't complete shit you never need
to "filter data" (just communicate in sexprs and (let* ((*read-eval* nil)) ...))
mircea_popescu: dja see where
there's a lot more room for documentation ?
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:28:04; Naphex: anyway, what i was saying is you
take steps 'secure' or
tape your stuff always, and you don't feed raw data
to your apps if you can filter
the input beforehand.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:14:03; asciilifeform: Naphex: if you're interested in my concept in particular, see article 'don't blame
the mice.'
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:06:38; asciilifeform:
to paraphrase mircea_popescu article, if christ saves in java - let me go straight
to hell.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:03:37; Naphex: asciilifeform: applets are applets and security issues are all around. being a good dev implies
taking care with deploying your product
williamdunne: Hmm I can probably deal with it, I'll
take a look
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:32:46; pete_dushenski: williamdunne mebbe you could have scoopbot_revived post
to a page on your site ?
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:56:01; Naphex:
trinque: gentoo doesn't even have iptables defaulted, so as soon as his done he'll end up recompiling
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell BayAreaCoins prolly later
tonight i'd guess.
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mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone kept in
touch with
that bravetheworld chick ? danielpb1rron ?
Pierre_Rochard: ^
They should start by securing president hussein’s email
decimation: "Mobile payments are a natural extension of
the digital lifestyle, while protection against digital
theft becomes an imperative for regulatory agencies around
the world." < note usg mission creep