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mod6: depends on what makes sense. i'll need all the help I can get. either we put in the work that needs doing and you have a republic, or you don't. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: won't you end up in a situation a la bitcoin where the ip is encoded into the message itself?
ascii_field: pet: 'aintcha glad you didn't take preorders'
mircea_popescu: !t m s.nsa
ascii_field: well i won't be working with $othercompany for much longer...
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the even keeled view of the matter, a person can only be participating in one death march at a time. since you're working with some other company, and it doesn't seem to be wanting to list itself, we need an engineer actually working for s.nsa ?
ascii_field: undercapitalized cat is undercapitalized ? afaik s.nsa can't afford even 1/3rd of a whole engineer
ascii_field: can't say i would
mircea_popescu: don't tell me if we were in 1715 you'd have been the sort that actually distinguished the slaves.
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter. did anyone buy's 21co's PREVIOUS potato, when it was called neobee or w/e the shit it was called ?
mircea_popescu: whenever you want to add something, you put it in the available hole. if you don't have a hole you kill something until you do.
mircea_popescu: jurov you don't reorder them physically. you just keep the ring's index up to date.
mircea_popescu: to quote the richest standup comedian of all time, "wouldn't it stand to reason that the air in your room comes from the very city that room is in ?"
ascii_field: shouldn't take long
ascii_field: well if mircea_popescu can locate another me but one that doesn't work a day job, he can ask for one
mircea_popescu: not necessarily. the original attack on ssl didn't.
mircea_popescu: suppose you build a node. your node "doesn't answer", but it DOES publish the relayed txn somewhere.
mircea_popescu: but so far we don't even know if we actually want rsa (this for lack of gossipd) nor have we studied shoup etc.
ascii_field: didn't i say?
mircea_popescu: minerals my foot. ain't nobody got time for that.
mircea_popescu: well i don't even know yet. vaguely defined, "a btc that won't give my computer hives"
shinohai: After reading the comments, it appears to be collective insanity. I don't run core anymore anyway but bolting on tor kills it.
trinque: I haven't heard much discussion of music distribution here.
mircea_popescu: b) it ain't fucking translatable.
BingoBoingo: How do we know it isn't already in there?
BingoBoingo: Well, most american food is laced with the sugahs. Even the meats and breads. A lot of it is the sugahs that don't respond to insulin (fructose). Add vidya games. Add monsanto.
mircea_popescu doesn't recall the gentleman.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 02:49:04; trinque: Citizenfive | What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. << I used to think this; lately I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
trinque: I don't follow
jurov: for the record: igprof won't work with stator, must change STATIC=all to STATIC=1 in stator.sh to get dynamic executable at final link time
phf: one thing that i see happening here is a subtrate problem, i.e. oh boost is crap gotta use std c++, oh c++ is crap gotta use lisp, oh lisp is hosted on unix, gotta host on bare metal, oh bare metal is crap gotta vhdl our own cpu, oh can't do our own cpu because 3 factories. i'm not sure where that leaves us exactly
mircea_popescu: isn't ogor ground/land/something ?
ascii_field: can't recall
mod6: <+jurov> igprof won't work with stator, i guess? << i'm trying to recall the details... but i think it compiled ok iirc, but when I ran it (on a gentoo amd64 env) I couldn't get any thing to dump out for some reason.
ascii_field: jurov: i don't recall now if there was any actual reason it had to run with dynamic libc
jurov: igprof won't work with stator, i guess?
ascii_field: even far more modest goal like 'doesn't consume infinite ram' is far beyond reach.
ascii_field: where ~isn't~ the sore point
punkman: also the whole freenet wot dimension, you don't have to connect to assholes iirc
ascii_field: iirc (i don't have the box here) i invoked RemoveFromMemoryPool
ascii_field: incidentally it isn't a locking bug either
ascii_field: clear doesn't invoke destructors
ascii_field: in sept. i did an experiment (can't recall if i bothered to explain it here) where i forced the cblock crapola to deallocate, in the correct way (without using an iterator)
phf: jurov: the goal is to get bitcoind working with pogo's limited memory. the problem is that a running bitcoind grows in memory use as a result of normal operations. we know that some processes claim a lot of memory by design, like mempool, so first step is to get a reliable way of cleaning out mempool. ascii wrote that patch, but discovered that in practice zapmempool doesn't reduce memory use.
phf: jurov: the overal goal though is to flush the mempool, but simply measuring the memory between zapmempool shows that the patch specifically doesn't do it. there's either additional source of leak, or there's a leak in mempool, or, and that's the most likely case, the patch in question doesn't touch al lthe places where mempool has data
phf: jurov: so original interpretation was that mapTransactions.clear(); doesn't deallocate individual instances (i.e. boost doesn't do the right thing), attempting to iterate over mapTransactions and do explicit del on instances results in crash. so the new assumption was that mapTransactions instances are somehow used elsewhere. i don't think there's much else insight on the subject
BingoBoingo: jurov: deedbot- didn't get the title update.
jurov: mod6, asciilifeform, thestringpuller: can you please enlighten me how does boost affect mapTransactions and its clear() function? i'm reading the code and don't see it
mircea_popescu: this is teh republic, if you don't do it it ain't getting done. we've neither a legion of mindless drones to "do" stuff badly nor a printing press to devalue everyone's ownership to "pay" for that "work".
BingoBoingo: *wasn't a thing
mircea_popescu doesn't remember which group of snakeoil salesmen were pushing "freenet".
pete_dushenski: aha. i attended french immersion through to grade 5, which really isn't much, but my mother also grew up on montreal and we spoke a bit of french at home. i've also visited montreal at least once a year since i was born, so i've always had a bit of a refresher when out in public. lastly, i joined a french-catholic choir last year and they speak and write in french exclusively.
brg444: tbf I'm certainly not complaining, last winter was around coldest on record so can't say I'm too anxious to revisit this
brg444: well temperature today was in the 50s so can't really call it winter yet
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2015 00:09:08; pete_dushenski: to celebrate the belated arrival of winter today, some photos of nature (that i didn't take) from my neck of the woods http://www.hecktictravels.com/rocky-mountains-alberta-canada and some rather charming urban shots of winter a few provinces over http://www.hecktictravels.com/winter-in-quebec
BingoBoingo: Because most wordpress anymore isn't "WordPress" but WordPress+AssPackJEt
BingoBoingo: I don't really know many sites outside of #b-a who do. Even most wp installs have shit comment boxes nao
mircea_popescu: and also that some idiot site on the net doesn't have a functional comment box
mircea_popescu: she's a little corky herself isn't she ?
BashCo: thanks jurov. I haven't been active here. haven't taken the time to get involved.
BingoBoingo: You aren't going to take naked girls to show them how it is done?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> back to my original point, i don't see any reason why folks like me will fare any better under this collapse than they did under sovcollapse << /me imagines in the future alf getting kidnapped in duffel bag... then delivered to a hardware #b-a because has come to expect
mircea_popescu: don't need to read past "the first".
asciilifeform: just for so long as you aren't the one falling through the riddled floorboards.
mircea_popescu: i don't really distinguish.
mircea_popescu: and ustards won't shut up about human rights.
asciilifeform: aha but eskimo won't shave cunt.
asciilifeform: 'cause i don't breathe the liquid ammonia atmosphere of the planet where x lives
asciilifeform: my whole point was that i don't ever expect to personally meet x.
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2015 16:31:44; asciilifeform: (fwiw the subject has no emotional button push for me, because i don't expect to last for as long as five seconds under feudalism)
asciilifeform: btw i can't possibly dispute that anti-intellectual brutes eventually eat up the cultured folk. this is one of the most recurrent patterns in recorded history (greece swallowed by rome, chinese conquered by their sequence of barbarian waves, etc.)
asciilifeform: which is why we aren't speaking jp.
mircea_popescu: as it happens... he didn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what historical event isn't a historical calamity ?
mircea_popescu: the only people who did something of themselves were the ones who didn't.
asciilifeform: back to my original point, i don't see any reason why folks like me will fare any better under this collapse than they did under sovcollapse
mircea_popescu: and it won't be in her control.
mircea_popescu: as a macula of their true state : they don't exist.
asciilifeform: (fwiw the subject has no emotional button push for me, because i don't expect to last for as long as five seconds under feudalism) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it necessarily can't happen yet.
asciilifeform isn't even entirely convinced that this has not already happened
mircea_popescu: by definition. as they aren't owners, the only thing they can be is looters.
asciilifeform: i still don't see how an altcoin could ever be an appealing thing other than to idiots and looters, assuming a still-functioning (if asymptotically-rewardless) classic btc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's your definition of "schelling point" ? doesn't have to be immutable, does it?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the fact they're dumb doesn't mean the bait ain't there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the situation : with gold, the responsibility for keeping gold secure indivisibly rests with its owner. either you build a vault and pay guards, or else you don't own it.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: aha, bordering on 20 yrs of ebay. but that isn't how it works.
asciilifeform: because - elementarily - i don't 'know a guy'
punkman: random derps can't get tests unless they know a guy
mircea_popescu: obviously that situation won't be permanent.
mircea_popescu: now, if you put in 75 cents t obuy a dollar of this, at the end of the year you will be paid either nothing or 105. which means that your yield will have been (105-75)/75 ie just about 50%.
mircea_popescu: so have a chat, he prolly doesn't know.
PeterL: I don't know why people think combining years of experience means anything
fluffypony: making sure they don't run dangerous programs like the AMD CCC
mircea_popescu: "You will probably experience a higher attempted double spend rate, for example, if selling a digital good to someone who didn't buy a device."
asciilifeform: if i didn't already have one, for the (fortunately) rare times that i need such a thing - would buy.
mircea_popescu: so the box you'd buy is putative, as you didn't buy it, and as far as the rest of the quoted is concerned ima go on a limb and guess thye had other reasons.
asciilifeform: (the box ben_vulpes was thinking of doesn't have a sata jack, so you're stuck with what's soldered on)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not only don't have, but never had, and afaik the monkeys do not yet smoke enough dope to hand'em out to folks like us.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you're allowed in b-a if you do.