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danielpbarron: yeah i'm waiting for the end of the article where he admits to satire
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I'm just astounded at how he suggests he anticipated his appearance on the show could be anything other than a trap and how he failed to prepare accordingly
assbot: MEN ARE BETTER THAN WOMEN - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBBJfj )
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, that guy is a wimp. that kinda situation doesn't have to end so poorly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM ☟︎
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1114937 this is SOP except in chumpatron where mircea lives. ☝︎
trinque: let it never be said that cl does not go to 11
Adlai: trinque: what, you want a table with two columns, CAR and CDR? ☟︎
trinque: imo if the state of the system is represented as structured data a lot of these "munge the config more easily" programs go away
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: According to Dr. Oz and Gawker media
Adlai: fat is the new phat
trinque: something along those lines
trinque: asciilifeform: I think I read on your blog something about how source code should be stored as ASTs not text?
mircea_popescu: o, it's okay to be fat now ?
Adlai: vhost-: help out the poor asciilifeform
trinque: asciilifeform: there's a question here related to my make the thing a database rant
asciilifeform: i've tried three claimed locations so far and none work
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where does cpanel keep apache's vhost configs, and why is this not documented anywhere ?
mircea_popescu: is this pickup artist drama ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform from the certain corners of the internet department http://www.rooshv.com/how-i-was-backstabbed-by-dr-oz-and-his-female-producers
asciilifeform: and good old tr
mircea_popescu: and tee.
asciilifeform: eh the only good part of unix is |
mircea_popescu: kinda why i'm discovering all i really like off unix these days is like... curl. grep.
asciilifeform: it is also how you know that x did -nothing but- whole job.
asciilifeform: 'fits in head' is how you actually -know- that x 'did whole job'
mircea_popescu: foss, the wonderful world of 90%
mircea_popescu: oh get the fuck out. ircd ? THIS works ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is almost but not entirely right. we are, for instance, presently speaking through an ancient atlantian tech that sorta works.
asciilifeform genuinely wonders if mircea_popescu ever runs any www gadget that isn't a php bloggatron
mircea_popescu: linux doesn't work. any of it. picking some random idiocy to make an example of is futile.
asciilifeform: hence the traditional 'cpanel is not removable' dictum
asciilifeform: still end up with cpanelism autogenned crapolade in every single fucking thing in /etc
mircea_popescu: but you can stop the service in any case.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well actually it wouldn't run, especially if you kill that port in firewall.
mircea_popescu: and if python.h fails, you prolly don't have th epaths set up right, it'll fai lthe same with or without some derpy package manager.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> move cpanel's apache to a diff port, and allocate 80 to yours. <
asciilifeform: normal people can get mod_wsgi if they want it.
mircea_popescu: cpanel has nothing to do with this.
asciilifeform: would like to run the fucking app without changes
mircea_popescu: then have python drop the statics in /home/whatever and apache will automagically serve them ?
asciilifeform: the whole thing was written in about a day, if you recall, in a mighty hurry
mircea_popescu: move cpanel's apache to a diff port, and allocate 80 to yours.
asciilifeform: simplest possible thing
asciilifeform: read the src if interested (under the user i created)
mircea_popescu: you want a python script to be executed on page load ?
asciilifeform: normally this is achieved by having apache (or nginx) pass through to, e.g., python
asciilifeform: i want the two to restart together
mircea_popescu: apache will serve them if in the right directories
asciilifeform: it has to be nginx or a (human) apache
mircea_popescu: so create them as files
asciilifeform: mno. need to serve some static pgs
mircea_popescu: except it doesn't require apache to run a script
mircea_popescu: but the python stuff you ran into is pure linux,
asciilifeform: it poisons every single config on the box, and assumes php
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> i am still awaiting your gentoo canonical << not even objecting to the linux flavour of that box, but to the cpanel idiocy
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 22:12:44; trinque: I have to run, dunno what hoon is but I'll see if I can find info on it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114626 << the thing yarvin was building leaky submarines out of ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 21:38:56; mike_c: nginx always works. I have never been disappointed in it. Recommending shit to people is always a -EV process, but..
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114480 << recommending shit to me is not necessarily -ev, especially if it works. i have an elephantine memory. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114418 << sorry bout that. was trying to improve things. went about as well as you'd expect. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: i'd be open to a purely gnumake-based thing << this before make starts building static or only after ? :D
mircea_popescu: unless some sort of consensus can emerge the public'll just split
trinque: doesn't seem there is one, neh?
mircea_popescu: trinque merely calling things shit is no golden bullet.
trinque: patches of whatever size make sense, and there's a process by which everyone else can call the patch shit in public
mircea_popescu: i doubt the magical patch that fixes the 1001 things will fit in 100kb for instance.
trinque: yeh, I prefer the hate one's peers rather than arbitrary rules
mircea_popescu: nothing but -s in the diff
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: trinque: and if any of you produce a 100kB patch, and i barf on general principle << there is a problem here. the code as it is is pretty long. just a simple "remove most of it" will be in the kbs.
assbot: This Rollin' 60s Crips member says he pulled /justin_fenton to safety today during a flare up. http://t.co/UWMIkLCTV5
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 20:23:19; trinque: and "speed" of development should not be a value
mircea_popescu: dun let me get in the way of meta-linux, by all means!
mircea_popescu: i am still awaiting your gentoo canonical build being published / your canonical web hoster being enacted on this or any other box etc.
asciilifeform: 'how do i make?' 'like this..'
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie << wtf linux world is this. i must've been living in a parallel one since quitting bsd ('04)
mircea_popescu: you do not do this.
mircea_popescu: and before anyone doubts that there can be such a thing : you COULD fuck a woman with a 3 inch drill bit attached to a percution drill.
asciilifeform: reminds me of an old neighbour of mine, who kept a 'colt 1911' - in his toolbox. with the drills, etc.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i suspect in this sense git may be TOO easy to use << precisely this
mircea_popescu: and never are heard from again, except for muffled cries in the solitude of the night.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie. i hear it's where the smart boys go.
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 20:14:38; Adlai: really this is all masturbation until we have a by-hand constructible fab
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114271 << nah, that's a misstatement. take the simpler case of poems. you do not need any particular microphone, varnish or anything else to know whether my poem's any good or not. ☝︎
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform so it has no python ios the idea << it has python and even, apparently, the headers, but can't see'em
BingoBoingo: They've got an OpenBSD, OpenSMTP, OpenNTP, OpenSSH, They might as well stick OpenSSL with finding a new front and themselves keep LibreSSL for confusion and lulz
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 20:12:42; davout: williamdunne: everybody fucking knows that
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Nah, Theo should have trademarked the word "Open"
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: they really should rebrand… maybe take LibreSSH haha
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 20:10:09; trinque: max commit size and beatings
assbot: OpenSSH No Longer Has To Depend On OpenSSL - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dz1dOQ )
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 23:25:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114179 << ssh being, of course, openssl. you read the earlier link re "why no ssl" ?
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 20:04:04; Adlai: so, it's less convenient for signing a patch relative to an upstream repo; but is exactly what you want if you just want to have a single head to put on a stake when heardbleed 2.0 gets uncovered
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114217 << for the record, you don't want a single head. you want a number of heads, and measurably stake-able. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's kinda how america ruined itself, too, ironically enough.
mircea_popescu: this is that.
mircea_popescu: as they say, "nothing ruins a start-up quite like a bad money source early on"
mircea_popescu: after the deal your incentive is to sell more future income for its present value.
mircea_popescu: while before the deal your incentive might have been to realise future income,
williamdunne: Ah okay, I see the difference now
mircea_popescu: essentially, you(before the deal) and you(after the deal) are different and irreconciliably so.