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mircea_popescu: the string "tango" was for ununderstood reasons banned on a very popular (among
the females) chat application of
the 80s, at a
time you'rew supposed
to have been in kindergarten.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [13:23]
that's prolly put i nthere special for shooting down ben_vulpes dating attempts in kindergarten. << i dun get it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 << what sort of great moment is
this!
jurov: yea, it was respectable when compiler was less clever
than programmer
mircea_popescu: in any case, it is perfectly wrong
to imagine scbl has
the magical quality of magical quality (and
then move on once
the horde shows it
trivially breaks). for one
thing, c was a very intellectually respectable
thing, back when i was a kid.
mircea_popescu: which has been an early
theoretical proposition which we've so far been verifying.
mircea_popescu: much like how
this place is readable PRECISELY because it's not facebook or w/e.
mircea_popescu: if
this mechanism is correct,
then it follows
that yes,
the only reason gabriel_laddel
thinks much of scbl is
that no one else does.
mircea_popescu: this is unresolvable, except if one actually and deliberately enacts
the positive feedback loop of "torture
those in pain, beat
those with welts on
their body" etc.
mircea_popescu: a) idiot interacts with system ; b) idiot forms malformed internal representation of system ; c) sane person has no incentive
to fix b) ; d) system evolves ~always~
to match its representations.
mircea_popescu: but
THIS is what
the utility of
that ancient "horror' and "unexplainable ancient cruelty" was : it kept
this very significant problem of badly alligned incentives in check.
mircea_popescu: the incentives are badly alligned, and
the habit of beating children (a subcase of, oppressing
the oppressed FOR
THE REASON
that
they're already oppressed) went out
mircea_popescu: trilema is filled with examples : i spell
this
the french way
this
time for stylistic reasons. what now ?
mircea_popescu: and if I write
the dict,
there isn't a way
to write a program
that can import it at all.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a way
to write a program
that can import a dict and fix my grammar.
mircea_popescu: in scbl, and c would be what c was in
the 70s. ie, coupla hundred k's.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115422 <<
this, i will point out, is in no way related
to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going
to fail), but simply a function of context. had
the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had
the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted idiocy
to
the
tune of > 10 mn lines
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 07:35:59; gabriel_laddel: Portage has a USE flag (what is
that? Idk, some nonsense abstraction) for docs so you can
tell it
to build all docs, but it gets caught in cyclic dependencies atm.
mircea_popescu: we're like brothers off
the same mother over here. and check out how variant
the fathers!
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 07:33:47; gabriel_laddel: I'll note
that I wrote a prototype for
the RPC described above - ran into an issue with
TCP or
the library I was using it from. Messages were disappearing in flight.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 07:30:19; gabriel_laddel: Just
trying
to point MP at something
mircea_popescu: (and yes editors, which
trilema doth employ, send
the corrections with "did you mean
to X" half
the fucking
time)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it has nothing
to check against, i gotta do it by hand.
mircea_popescu: and consequently
the notion of "spellchecker" is undefined for me.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't
there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " <<
this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is
to say one of
those people who,
through his usage, ENACTS
the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of
their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what bothers me is
that i see no way
to either dismiss it, or pick it.
davout: i'm really
too lazy
to argue further, i just
tend
to remove code instead of adding more whenever i can get what i want either of
those ways
mircea_popescu: what happens if assbot dies ? we must lose scoopbot
titling
too ?
davout: because
then what happens when scoopbot_revived is replaced by scoopbot_x or whatever
Adlai: seems parsimonious
that in a channel where a bot announces link
titles,
there's no need
to supply
them yourself
mircea_popescu: i would definitely read
the essay discussing
the merits of either side. i just realised i actually don't grok
this shit.
kakobrekla: the
thing is
that fucking conditional code is already in place as well
mircea_popescu steps away slowly and in
terror, letting
the parties involved decide.
davout: sounds better
to remove code from scoopbot rather
than add some conditional logic
to assbot
Adlai isn't sure
there was a year prefix in
those days
davout: mircea_popescu kakobrekla mebbe make scoopbot_revived not mention
the
title and let assbot handle it?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: last
time anyone "in computing" had an idea
the year prefix was still 1.
mircea_popescu: none of
this "i'll fix
the details later, i'm in
the middle of doing sexy work now". fuck you and fuck your "ideas".
mircea_popescu: i want it
to complain
to
the dev about every.single.problem. EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM. and it must be as a fucking clickbox, in his face.
mircea_popescu: i don't need
to fucking remember
to ask it. i can walk away from
the
terminal if i need some space.
mircea_popescu: Adlai yeah, for
that matter emacs does something very close
to
this, bar one fatal fucking flaw : pull. it should really be push.
Adlai: aha,
the good old C-c C-w C-c
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the computer's job is
to be a most humbly abject slave, perpetually and consumatedly on its knees following you around, with
the dedication and unwavering insistence no dog can summon.
mircea_popescu: the computer's job is NOT
to be
the fucking master, and make its own decisions a la windows.
the computer's job is NOT
to be a solipsistic retarded geek and just do its own
thing like anal children do.
mircea_popescu: ort what I can figure out about
the context ? b) iterate you
through all locations ? c) change it back ? d) run a
trace see what happens ?"
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are
the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr
this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why
the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back
the fucking paperclip, put it
the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool
to int.
This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me
to a) check all places where it's called and rep
☟︎ kakobrekla: i
thought
they would be friends but ok
assbot: The downtrodden are downtrodden for a reason. Step on
their faces! on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1bekiPw )
Adlai: "Taaki and his sister once broke into an old hotel, stole
the bibles from every room, doused
them with cleaning fluid, set
them on fire, and
threw
them down a well
to see how deep it went. For
that,
their father never punished
them."
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, do you have an opinion on Uruguay as a place
to live?
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 14:26:51; *: mats is busy working
through "The Misbehavior of Markets"
mircea_popescu: "can i please have
the bullet
then ?" "uhhh... but we don't make
those anymore ?
too expensive."
Adlai: "Arvind Mithal (usually referred
to as just Arvind)" well we solved
that mystery
mircea_popescu: mmm... no, colonized. invaded by
the
tumbler,
twitter etc hordes.
mircea_popescu: (mostly
through historical accident : gypsy women used as whores
throughout middle ages, ended up with kids without actual parentage, got "soft" father's name as it were)
Adlai: never
trust a man with no last name
Adlai: i'd say it's lulzier
that
the guy just has
two first names
mircea_popescu: "omaigawd i have
to finish
this by
tomorrow because i had
three weeks
to do it but i was busy until
tonight!!111"
mircea_popescu: Adlai btw, is ariel sharon
totally a girl's name only
to my ear ? or is it kinda lulzy in
teh medinat
too ?
mircea_popescu: welcome
to beartraps & caltrops day on bitcoin-assets. i'll be your lovely host, with
the mostly incontinent Sharon Cohen serving as my co-something or
the other.
davout: heh, already heard about it, although
thankfully
that's not something i've witnessed
mircea_popescu: davout is all "wtf
this doesn't exist. oh
THAT. myeah ok, it exists."
mircea_popescu: but it's brief and blessfully resolves in
the hospital.
mircea_popescu: actually... some hobby of WIVES doth render
them anally incontinent
davout: "some hobby of slavegirls renders
them anally incontinent"