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mircea_popescu: "it's not the direct result of having a congress ?"
asciilifeform: ( as well as random breakdown strange, a la miller urey tube )
mircea_popescu: in fairness not much different from showing the meat a lot of daytime tv.
mircea_popescu: i lost oxtail soup to these imbeciles, and i will take a pound of flesh and nothing else to make it right.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that this is entirely factual, humans INVENTED a new, lethal disease for bos primigenus, BECAUSE retarded usg regulation has the unwelcome effect of responsibility divestment.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the lower temp thing is 1933 standard, related to the hettinga thing. the process is designed to kill a pathogen that... you don't have to have, and well kept cows don't have.
asciilifeform: btw there exists a next step after this, and the typical 'flyover state' denizen already eats it : powder
mircea_popescu: (the difference is that 135/1s milk is shelf-stable for up to a year, whereas traditional 72degree/15s milk is shelf stable for maybe two weeks)
mircea_popescu: (chief difference being that heating milk to 135 degrees for a couppa minutes maillards most of the long fats ; whereas classical process, half that temperature, did not nor could not)
asciilifeform: the only way to get joiana-type in usa is to actually own a cow
mircea_popescu: us milk is UHT'd. this is a different process from pasteurization.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, I figure hotel that comes with ticket offers a bit of security when it's needed for things to get to rack. Hostel afterwards because moving to Montevideo during high tourist season (fucking Argentines)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 22:45 asciilifeform: for some reason asciilifeform immediately pictured BingoBoingo living inside a 42u cabinet, diogenes-style
mircea_popescu: not just pdf, but a %20 plagued url like it's windows 95 all over again
asciilifeform: for some reason asciilifeform immediately pictured BingoBoingo living inside a 42u cabinet, diogenes-style ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 19:18 PeterL: rho starts with setting Ar(0,0) to A(0,0), then loops over the rest of the Ar(0,1) to Ar(4,4) so the function does set all 25 lanes
BingoBoingo: Occasional fool goes for "Kentucky 31" tall fescue instead and wonders why their yard looks like a weedy lime green wheat field later
mircea_popescu: the supply store, like a snowball!
BingoBoingo sells grass seed like so: Are you starting over or overseeding? How big of an area of your covering? These two products are the only things regionally appropriate here. You will buy X bags of A or Y bags of B. Which do you want?
mircea_popescu: i r get notice this exists in proper text format, so let's put it in teh archive then http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/I%27m_a_Little_Bit_Country/Script
mircea_popescu: there's a great southpark episode explaining how this false dychotomy is intended to work in practice (i'm a bit couintry & im a bit rock and roll item) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (ie, the false belief that "i pushed - rock obeyed" is dangerous to the "successful" pusher first and foremost -- in a decade or two he finds himself in the laughable position of kerry & friends)
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform unpacks a small crate of b00kz from ru, and finds that the rus-ro dictionary, shrinkwrapped, but inside : item from 1942 !
mircea_popescu: geological phenomena are not specifically open to human "performance" claims lest we end up inventing a new set of sun priest outfits for ourselves.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i'm rather doubtful as to actual usg involvement in that. seems a case of "hitchhiker comes across bute, pushes it into the chasm below". well, it's true that "hitchhiker pushed as hard as he could", but it's also true that he didn;t make or specifically find bute.
mircea_popescu: recall the pics with that tall schmuck and kerry pressed together into a us-made floating sardine can
mircea_popescu: "apple could buy russia and inqtel could buy a fifth of mohammad bin salman's drunken romp"
mircea_popescu: did they get moar "oh usg decided to "sell" keyhole to google thereby inqtel has a coupla mn dollars now" sortas items ?
asciilifeform: iirc i dug up & posted the tax filings from inqtel here a few yrs back
mircea_popescu: o hey, we have a resolution! http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vtDXh/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: the french approach : since we know we can't win, might as well burn the stack down in a memorable way.
ben_vulpes: i cannot fathom the confusion of ideas that would lead someone to say such a thing
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes really, ideal ceo from a comedy gold delivery perspective.
mircea_popescu: anyway. pretty fucking epic keks. ethereum became a sort of jokecoin after the rape, which i suppose brings the moral home : rape is educative.
mircea_popescu: rando indian is somehow in a position to speak for "ethereum", an on-again-off-again acquarium of rank imbeciles who couldnt manage to as much as paint the basement they inhabited, if it came to it ?
PeterL: A being the input array and Ar being the output array; I was trying to follow notation as in the paper, but they use a and A, which ada does not allow
PeterL: rho starts with setting Ar(0,0) to A(0,0), then loops over the rest of the Ar(0,1) to Ar(4,4) so the function does set all 25 lanes ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:37 diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739503 << http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NrPiu/?raw=true << the 0,0 row is not moved and not shifted (actually the paper calls it shifted by 0), I think the function should return full 0 state if fed a full 0 state ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> in other news, the anti-flirt brigade brought a democrat down today; "al franken" << Oh, is he the one who molested the black muscle guy?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid (1 more message)
ben_vulpes: in other news, the anti-flirt brigade brought a democrat down today; "al franken"
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo am here to visit a friend in psyc ward, totally unrelated to my issue.
ben_vulpes: this is a surprising turning point, gabriel_laddel actually taking instruction
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Does your room have a TV?
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo am in el camino hospital right now, getting a phonebook & phone..
BingoBoingo: This means your remora of a lawyer has to be a specialist at this. It isn't podunk Doctor's malpractice carrier. It's Stanfords.
BingoBoingo: And the attraction of a Stanford for a doctor is exactly "take this salary, we'll put you on our insurance"
mircea_popescu: a
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly. << You have no need to do this. Lawyer handles
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: who has a phone book tho
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Open a phone book. Find the second biggest lawyer ad (i.e. takes one whole page instead of two) call them. today
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ben_vulpes wait, wait, they came up with a loophole in the whole "Standard of care" scam ? "as long as you doctor for stanford, you get to opt out of the usg lawyer insanity" ?
ben_vulpes: hey, show up with a crazy story, get a bunch of crazy questions
gabriel_laddel: Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly.
ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some "we're a learning hospital, might kill ya, gonna bill ya" going on
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes Stanford hospital is a scary place. They lied to me MANY times about how many xrays I'd get, that they'd let me get copies...
ben_vulpes: that's a pretty novice anaesthesia mistake
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: You are going to get a lawyer. Your lawyer is going to probe the surgeon's colon with his suing member over that lung fluid thing. You will have money. Might as well rent some rackspace and grow your small business.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, gabriel_laddel How many rack units do you want to lease once lawyer loves the surgeon's butthole a bit?
mircea_popescu: lol sounds like you've got a decent malpraxis case.
trinque: "they fucked up turning my chalk dust of a heel into a foot again"
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform surgon irritates me on a personal level + the first time stanford tried it, they fucked up
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel just go into er sometime that's not crazy (ie, not sunday at 4:10 am, not right after a shooting rampage etc. they'll sort it out)
mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was expecting self-hacking is in the pipeline since about a year ago.
mircea_popescu: the medieval standard is "saw the bone and sink the stump in hot oil". this works, but you'll pass out. has to be a third person.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc ( but for some reason can't find in log ) d00d fell off a roof
gabriel_laddel: ~1 sale a month since last wave isn't enough.
asciilifeform: if you remove the div0 trap from ffa, you end up likewise with a reg full of 1s. it's what knuth division produces when given a 0 divisor.
asciilifeform: it isn't distinguishable from a conceivable legit division.
mircea_popescu: what i mean is : the fact that div by 0 produces a non-uniform distribution of bits in the register suggests to me that it is NOT as flagless as it aims to pretend.
asciilifeform: to say 'error flag' is not in line with reality of the situation -- the only correct answer to div-by-0 is eggog. and eggog != 'returns a value just like actual non-by-0 division might'
asciilifeform: that's not an error flag -- negative 1 is a legitimate result of dividing, e.g., 100 by -100
mircea_popescu: twas a dubious time, lots got killed in the war, which is how eg lithuania ended up with ~none
asciilifeform: 'The lack of a carry bit complicates multiple-precision arithmetic – GMP, MPFR ... RISC-V does not detect or flag most arithmetic errors, including overflow, underflow and divide by zero ... Most popular programming languages do not support checks for integer overflow, partly because most architectures impose a significant runtime penalty to check for overflow on integer arithmetic and partly because modulo arithmetic is sometim
mircea_popescu: they did lift a 1930s "gypsies of romania" congress flag tho.
mircea_popescu: some dudes organized a "congress" in 1971 in, of course, london.
asciilifeform: 'risc-v' is a well-crafted attempt to steal the name, much like gypsies tried to steal even the name of the country they lived in ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "this cisc thing is too complex,. make a simple one" "why, so there can within a decade 'exist' a thousand different simplicities ?"
asciilifeform: risc is a massively broad item
asciilifeform: so it's a first-class wrecking. sorta like what llvm used to be prior to apple crowning it. riscv is waiting for its apple.
mircea_popescu: so conference fodder, a buncha slideshares. cool.
asciilifeform: but nobody afaik sells a siliconized hard implementation of it. and i dun expect that anyone will. because wtf.
asciilifeform: moar concretely they go around propagandizing that if you build a fpga board you gotta use it, because 'mips is patented' ( in what country ? even in usa patent is 25y ) or 'risc-v is simplest' ( uh, nope ) and other idiocy. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a lot i don't understand.
mircea_popescu: i thought risc had a buncha cond flags
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 19:59 mircea_popescu: but it's certainly quite deep. the vermin doesn't merely aim to a comfortable existence, but more importantly to a memory-less situation.
asciilifeform: standard compliance (we also had thread) is a massively underappreciated thing. it is why, e.g., diana_coman was able to take the serpent thing and build it, cleanly and without change, 20+yrs after its writing
asciilifeform: it isn't a straight imbecile mapping to the idjit cmachine cpu, as c is.
mircea_popescu: gcc or w/e you use as a compiler,. for instance, also not an ada proggy. ada dun even try what lisp tried and failed to obtain, ie, a full universe.
mircea_popescu: if the convention can be "you'll need a serial capable machine", as it HAS to can be, then convention can also be "you'll need a cpu with ror/rol implemnented". whether it is decided to make it so has no bearing on whether it could be decided to make it so. that's a 1 : it could be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and "asm rot" is a standard etc.
apeloyee: motherfuckers, there is not a single comp made in 40 years that doesn't have a carry flag. << *excluding non-actual computers.
asciilifeform: ( nitpickers will note that rs232 implies particular voltages . and yes, you need a voltage converter to use ttl (e.g. fg) with actual rs232. which is inevitable, because i did not want to put a 200kHz-oscillating 5v to plusminus12v chip on fg. )
asciilifeform: if you dun have serial, you dun have a comp, in entirely the same way that if you cannot read latin letters you are not literate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rs232 is a 1960s standard, and doesn't go away simply because wintel stopped including the plug on the mobo. and world's simplest and most widely-supported standard for digital comms, moar so than ethernet ( i have whole pile of devices with 0 nic but several serialports ) , and will remain, regardless of what wintel does.
apeloyee: it's a part of the standard, but, sadly, optional.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:03 asciilifeform: gcc offers a built-in rotate 'illicitly', but not a portable access to carry flag. because ALSO run by wreckers.
asciilifeform: my personal fg is plugged into a serial port.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:22 asciilifeform: FG is a straight serial device tho, it doesn't lock you into any particular form