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trinque: it's worth noting
that anyone making declarations
that come
true is using his *power*
to make
them so
pete_dushenski: let's say hashrate increases 3-fold in next 12 months and we see
that 200 mn gh/s is...
trinque: as people would like
their declarations alone
to move reality
trinque: people would like it
to be so
trinque: the idea
that
the whole USG is
the decrepit post office is laughable
trinque: and
they start using
their SSL chewing boxes, or what have you
trinque: asciilifeform: sure "oh
this is all from
those newfangled crypto boxes"
trinque: well what I'm saying is
they do both
trinque: who will claim
the NSA doesn't already have a metric shitload of potential hashing power
to apply
to
this problem?
trinque: they have
that plus every computer
they already had at
their disposal
pete_dushenski: so by
this
time in 2016
the usg has 10 mn gh/s at its disposal.
pete_dushenski: ok, so half of all subscribers in first year, one box per. aggressive but let's
try it out.
pete_dushenski: and
that
they manage
to deploy 10 mn units within 12 months from
today.
pete_dushenski: let's say
that
these
things are hashing at even 1 gh/s
cazalla: channel ban list is
there for all
to see anyway so why ask me
jurov: asciilifeform yes
that's what i'm asking.
trinque: what's done with either, who owns it, is
the meat
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform:
the stupid ones.
the govs intent on slitting
their own
throats, sure.
trinque: pete_dushenski: "bitcoin is bitcoin" has no
tactical content
cazalla: now as much as i love
the ol' Vexual, i admit he does like
to chat a lot and often makes no sense but by banning him, we now get
to enjoy it on a more personal level via pm :P
jurov: *what if I do
tolerate?
jurov: what if it do
tolerate?
cazalla: jurov, because we don't
tolerate drunken behaviour around
these parts!
pete_dushenski: trinque: depends entirely who it is making
the declarative statements.
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 20:58:30; jurov:
then maybe he prefers interviewing folks individually
trinque: pete_dushenski:
the declaration of a
thing is not what makes it so
pete_dushenski: it's equally likely
that 'conventional miners' will begin
to curry favour with local governments
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: sure, but
this is hardly
the way
to go about it. even if it's all
they've got left.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: mattering
to hashrate, mattering
to bitcoin.
pete_dushenski: ok, so mebbe it doesn't burn houses down, and mebbe everyone has a half dozen of
these chips wedged into
their various appliances...
trinque: I'd like
to
think it, of course.
trinque: eh I don't know about
that
pete_dushenski: "but if we have ENOUGH slingshots and
they're government mandated"
pete_dushenski: by
the
time
they roll
these out and get
them into any appreciable number of homes, it'll look like
trying
to fight
the nazis by arming every american with slingshots
☟︎ trinque: state-sanctioned crypto chip
that happens
to be able
to mine
trinque: and if you really need
to ram it
through, attach it
to some "cybersecurity" bill
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: burn down from having flammables near cable boxes,
toasters, etc ?
pete_dushenski: i doubt even 25% of mining profits will cover
the electricity costs.
trinque: so you just end up with a cryptoturd chip built into
the intel processors, and you can't get other processors
pete_dushenski: because a few 'early adopters' will jump on board, burn
their houses down, and
the
thing'll fizzle out
trinque: asciilifeform: I'd expect some broken off appendage of
the NSA
to accumulate a sizable stash of coin even if
the rest of
the USG falls apart
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 21:47:09; asciilifeform: it'll work,
too
danielpbarron: i posted a comment
to
that freedom
to
tinker
thing a couple days ago; it didn't get approved
trinque: so being a part of
the NSA botnet goes from
top secret
to productized
trinque: lol,
the houses around here are half a million or more
jurov: ah, i forget in murica it's impossible
to have own roof in few years
jurov: they would have hard
time
to rationalize
the money if it was not connected
to some do-gooding, moving and shaking
jurov: well, it's more common
than you
think. had i myself not been here, i'd be easily swayed for an "opportunity
to change
things"