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phf: for example i have a set of patches that i've not had a chance to cleanup, that diff mp's addition on top of the released version of wordpress. that patchset could only by successfully produced by ignoring whitespace changes, and adding a handful of filters for cosmetic alterations
phf: that's true, though "ignore" functionality can still work. in fact nuking all that stuff means that i will still need a traditional differ for code manipulation
asciilifeform: elsewhere, asciilifeform contemplates , of what is made the black soot that one finds inside servers. wish i still had where to gc/ms...
asciilifeform: i also wonder whether gabriel_laddel ever considered vegas. it has slightly better odds than sv nonsense, and with fewer pounds of flesh required as table stake
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754270 << i was about to say, 'i've nfi what d00d is still doing in usa' but then remembered he's 1legged nao ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and i concede the point to mircea_popescu , boat prolly does not work for the contemplated use , in the general case )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:28 danielpbarron: i've got over 1k USD in sales in just a week, but the last auction finished with no bids
mircea_popescu: what am i supposed to say now, "if only i had five more and pushed them harder, i could buy a las vegas casino ?"
mircea_popescu: other than the "hey, i spent like 100k usd for these cufflinks" lulz, there's also "hey, this slavegirl who was doing basic training made like 100 btc freelancing in 2012. so i'm today ~2mn usd richer because owning obedient slut."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:21 danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and as a public service for the republic
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 06:18 mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality
danielpbarron: hey if any hardware distributor has that qty of the thing we want, i can probably afford to pay for it in bitcoin and recieve a pallet
danielpbarron: i don't know about arbitrary quantities, i'm sure asciilifeform would say the price spikes if you try to buy more than 10
danielpbarron: i'm working on a laptop now and of course my recipe doesn't work again. I'm gonna try cp -r'ing the distfiles in from a working box for the initial setup
danielpbarron: i have those too
danielpbarron: i've got over 1k USD in sales in just a week, but the last auction finished with no bids ☟︎
danielpbarron: it's unlikely i will ever have a fiat income again
danielpbarron: well i spent 2 bitcoin on some FGs, then i bought 2 bitcoin. I should have kept all 4 bitcoin, right?
danielpbarron: but if i'm gonna go down that road, shoulda bought 1k BTC for 1 USD. should have lived off ramen noodles for the last 7 years while i put all income into a wallet.dat
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i'm thick; what means 're-buying the re-up' ?
danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and as a public service for the republic ☟︎
The20YearIRCloud: From property income? Then yes if you consider the USD. From the outset I explained to everyone that we'd be dealing primarily in USD, accepting BTC from tenants wherever possible. As of today I've had a grand sum of 3 people ask me about truly getting involved in bitcoin
a111: Logged on 2017-12-10 01:32 danielpbarron: i replaced the coin used to by mine at the time i bought them, so that works for me
asciilifeform: i.e. you oughta get the btc you spent, back , at the very least
asciilifeform: i.e. you spent btc presumably some months ( years ? ) ago, and letting them flats out for 'dust' today
asciilifeform: unless i'm missing something, that sounds like a terrible deal
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah but I'm voiced, must be a early Christmas present?
asciilifeform: somehow i didn't expect delousing as one of the expenses...
asciilifeform: well i actually ~like~ winter, so.
BingoBoingo: I will keep you informed.
BingoBoingo: But the fellow I talked to recieved a clear understanding of what I am and am not looking for.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 05:56 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am very curious in how you figure initial distribution might work
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can picture that it'd impress folx who experienced 'typical' technology being webolade, ducttape, perl. the way austrian bidet impressed asciilifeform's grandfather. << AHA, in Uruguay no excuse for walking around with stink butt
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 02:52 asciilifeform: to round out the crackpottery : i've described what is more or less a working variant of ye olde warcrime, the multiverse coin
mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality ☝︎☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i am very curious in how you figure initial distribution might work ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: i suspect quartz hating is because obsoleting the last remnant of pre-socialism tech, the mechanical movement.
asciilifeform: i have nuffin against mircea_popescu's beingimpressed.
mircea_popescu: it redirected me to oh i see what happened
asciilifeform: dunno where i remembered 250. gotta be from lattice-ice
asciilifeform: dunno re intel's turd, but plenty of static (i.e. clocks from dc to max) on embedded market.
asciilifeform: i can picture that it'd impress folx who experienced 'typical' technology being webolade, ducttape, perl. the way austrian bidet impressed asciilifeform's grandfather.
mircea_popescu: i clearly remember gushing in the log many years ago, but can't seem to find. anyway : difficulty worked.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean here what rando-idiot thinks those are. i mean the actual article,
asciilifeform: i duncare what obummer and gavin have to say re the worldstate,
asciilifeform: and currently i'm of the mind that pow is an idiot substitute for wot.
asciilifeform: i can rven
asciilifeform: i gave an example scalar, 'coins moved but over 1 block delta'. it is by no means the only possible.
mircea_popescu: but i suspect as implemented it is blind peculiarization of more general concept that needs unearthing.
asciilifeform: at least i formalized how.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this just makes us a larger mp, you understand ? girl going "hail master, i am yours to command" does not resolve the problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't cleat to me that wot isn't the troo solution to time. e.g. 'i'ma follow the multiverse mircea_popescu picks, and fuck everyone'
trinque: this along with the transparently obvious sybil logs I posted the other day
trinque: I'm simply unable to transmit transactions at times; they show up in no other mempool.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 04:09 trinque: obviously I'm looking into it, but I would like to hear what other people are seeing on their trb nodes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753954 << i have up to date nodes ; both trb and legacy. but the phenomena described is recurrent since at least 18 months ago. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't want a different flavour of footshooting musket.
asciilifeform: so i'ma borrow mircea_popescu's orig argument, 'dont ever be isolatednode'
asciilifeform: i still dungetit
asciilifeform: i dungetit
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 02:33 asciilifeform: and, i'll add, in light of the luby proof-of-storage item.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 02:08 phf: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu do we want to keep the exclude functionality? i sometimes use it in test runs, but this'll let me get rid of regex (for now anyway)
trinque: obviously I'm looking into it, but I would like to hear what other people are seeing on their trb nodes. ☟︎
phf: obviously i'm not actually building it with autoconf
asciilifeform: i suspect that if you ditch autoconf, and snip out ALL #ifdef crapola (esp. and inclusive of uniturdism and 'localism' ) you will end up with a sysv-sized util
asciilifeform: to round out the crackpottery : i've described what is more or less a working variant of ye olde warcrime, the multiverse coin ☟︎
asciilifeform: but entirely possible that it was in my blind spot. so i'ma leave this here, and make moar detailed sketch if mircea_popescu asks , later.
asciilifeform: i modelled this item on paper, and did not find any obvious place in which to put a crowbar and make the thing break apart in the 'rewrite history' sense.
asciilifeform: to prevent 1 d00d with fat wallet from monopolizing all future blocks, would have to count 'mass' only for resolving forks of length 1 . (i.e. 1 block, however 'heavy', cannot 'outweigh' 2. )
asciilifeform: prolly i'm doomed to describe a complete algo nao. so consider : no pow. a block is 2^20 bytes . it can hold a certain # of fixed-length tx ( i will not repeat earlier scheme, with the luby etc., imho it was adequate. ) ;
asciilifeform: ( i.e. when you craft such a tx, you're doing it against a specific picture of whole blockchain, from t==0 to your highestknownblock )
asciilifeform: and, i'll add, in light of the luby proof-of-storage item. ☟︎
asciilifeform: upstack re pow item : i'ma leave an observation for mircea_popescu ( and others, but he's prolly the one to crack this nut properly ) . consider how in classical bitcoin , pow is used for 2 entirely different and quite orthogonal items : initialcoindistribution, and rewindprotection (i.e. preventing history-rewriting) . it's a bulldog-rhinoceros. so q is, suppose that coin distribution somehow took place at t==0. do you still need po
phf: but i don't go into the details there either
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 04:23 phf: which is handy if you're using something else to produce the patch, or if you need to use a non-trivial diff command. for example i sometimes need to exclude files from diffing, so a command might look like diff -x foo -x bar -x qux -ruN a b | grep -v '^Binary files ' | vdiff > foo.vpatch
asciilifeform: i have scripts that ruthlessly thermonuke the kind of rubbish that doesn't get diffed, instead.
asciilifeform: i've never done it
phf: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu do we want to keep the exclude functionality? i sometimes use it in test runs, but this'll let me get rid of regex (for now anyway) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 05:40 asciilifeform: [BTC-dev] (CRACKPOTTERY) Notes re: one possible "TRB-I".
shinohai: But I always like my apple kyklos cake a bit crumbly
asciilifeform: but i'ma bbl: meat.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what the item would even cost today. billions, prolly.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
asciilifeform: mining intrinsically, i suspect, suxx, and fiddling with pow won't make any dent in it
asciilifeform: i was about to say
asciilifeform: i'ma allears
mircea_popescu: (which, i confess, striked/strikes me as a seductively good idea)
asciilifeform: i'ma let sumbodyelse alsotry, to make sure.
asciilifeform: i was hoping to find that i made a mistake, but the numberz check out.
mircea_popescu: the ~other~ part of it is : suppose (i don't have example ready, but constructively) there's a N that popped into factors f1... fm.
asciilifeform: so from that pov i have no access to the original p,q that gpg may have generated, for any of the keys
asciilifeform: phuctor finds a divisor. if it is toobig for sieving, i'm left with m-r, when asking whether it is a ~prime~ divisor.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i follow.
asciilifeform: i'm left with... m-4
asciilifeform: say i have 2 2048b pieces on the table.
diana_coman: I suspect the 2 is basically the...potato soup of gpg: cheapest available
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 22:30 mircea_popescu: http://yves.gallot.pagesperso-orange.fr/src/aks_gmp.html << supposed c++ impl ; though i have nfi who gallot fellow is.
mircea_popescu: and i have a good mind to mandate eucrypt impl of m-r actually uses 2^8 ie 256 as minimum.
asciilifeform: and i'ma test it as soon as dulap-III is up ( btw crate of raid cards just came in last hour )