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asciilifeform: they are not, as someone might suppose, dead weight;
decimation: as a 'graduate student'
asciilifeform: as you may know, i live nowhere near mit. there were two offices. one, in cambridge, contained these masturbators, where they played with (largely nonfunctional) robots all day. whereas ours did the - predominantly deadly boring - work which actually paid the bills.
ben_vulpes: i studied with many of the like. getting them to think outside of the box was not worth the time as there was no prerequisite dicksucking going along with it.
asciilifeform: revoltingly studious think-in-the box bitches, just as you might imagine ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i labored a bottom-tier version of same. if that place was as it was, MIT must be even more so.
asciilifeform: just as the fall of rome is pinned to the particular overthrow where it is traditionally pinned
asciilifeform: i choose to place the fall of mit as the moment when sicp fell
whaack: what -does- concentrate at mit, and this was a pervasive-enough problem even in the golden days, as attested to by old hands - is concentration of braggarts and showmen << my point is the showmen are simply the loudest
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is merely the top concern among such meat processing plants, just as mcdonalds is a leader but sole player in the recycled-food field.
decimation: "What worries me is that some of these findings that are found with the big data and the data miners, that people look at the findings and then only after the finding, they concoct a story or a theory, develop ex post some intuition, as to why this should work. And I think that's dangerous. I prefer to work on the basis of first principles: what is reasonable."
asciilifeform: what -does- concentrate at mit, and this was a pervasive-enough problem even in the golden days, as attested to by old hands - is concentration of braggarts and showmen
asciilifeform: how to take out sentry in any way that doesn't count as 'hand' ? ☟︎
whaack: to anyone who does not immediately apprehend the reason for my position, i invite a look into the 'mit press' catalogues for the last decade or so. << as was expressed in my conversation with mp, mit's press facade is different than its internals. Much like bitcoin
mats: yes, thats why i mentioned it. as a word of caution about respecting the enemy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:asciilifeform you gotta have a look at http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2015#1097382 << gabriel_laddel has good summaries of things, but i must confess that i am not particularly interested in 'lispy unix' as i consider it coprophagic pizza. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i presently believe that it is the -duty- of any literate man of science today to despise mit and everything it now stands for, just as, e.g., an honest historian or anthropologist must despise harvard. ☟︎
asciilifeform: williamdunne: keybase and friends (usg in the broadest possible sense) can read your mail and sign as you.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, mod6 (others tracking the DNS seed thread as well): i'd like to hear from you all as well
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and this person was under 30, and had never taken a virgin asshole, or planted a tree or butchered as much as a rabbit, couldn't put together a disassembled weapon of their choice if they had the whole day
mircea_popescu: (much funnier in romanian, where sfrr is an onomatopeia for sizzle, as in a steak's sizzle, and thus implicitly a pars pro toto reference to "servants, friends, riches, reputation", ie the steak's sizzle.)
mircea_popescu: and that problem is present, and that problem is the deep reason i despise mit as an intellectual approach.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that they are selling themselves wrongly : as an achievement rather than as an attempt. which is what allows stuff like that video to *denote*, whether it describes or not.
mircea_popescu: rhodesia is the informative example on this topic. the white guys could survive the attack of outside blacks with the support of the inside blacks, even as the outsiders were being sponsored by the usual "helpers".
trinque: ben_vulpes: 6.1 was eric's thought on the matter as well
ben_vulpes: trinque: http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/arsttep.html << 6.2.5 speaks to our shared visions of corporation as research/engineering labs
mircea_popescu: i've been there yo. i lived half a year in lowell, mass. i ate half my meals in the house of professors there. i know the place, as it happens.
ben_vulpes: "Regular expressions cannot respect a language's syntax (detect false positives short a full parser)" << this strikes me as a special case of the "cannot simulate a universe without a universe" claim. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: irl, there exists such a thing as gravity. you can't float broadly over a path. gravity pushes you down into it.
mircea_popescu: becoming something in the style of wikipedia : a great way to batten down the ignorance of users. after a mooc they're just as ignorant as before, but now it's much harder to fix.
mircea_popescu: they purport to be learner-driven. this is as idiotic as it gets. education works in the following stages : learner picks a teacher TO SUBMIT TO, blindly. teacher rapes the learner. this is education.
gabriel_laddel: unless I give someone the direct link, as in here they'll only see it from that code path.
trinque: I just didn't run the old one, so was going to maybe mark these as having come from the old thing
trinque: I'm saying all as one bundle
trinque: arguably this is the first time this deedbot has seen any of these docs, so I don't think it makes sense to use old transactions as the timestamp
trinque: ben_vulpes: as I understand it I'll just take the old deeds and re-bundle them?
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-03-2015#1069268 << for the record I was not attempting to "pass off" anything, but rather clearly define what it is that I'm talking about. I'm rather happy to have second-guessed that decision because the correct answer is that the lordship isn't clearly defined outside of what has been posted to trilema and as one who isn't a lord I have no buisness calling it anything other ☝︎
asciilifeform sometimes wonders what hanbot does these days instead of working over the old tardphorum with a plasma gun as in the old days.
mircea_popescu: (british-german rivalry goes back a long time. as long as there was a germany, really.)
mircea_popescu: 60k salary as long as you know, 65k expended.
mircea_popescu: decimation it means, "try and leech as much as you can off the young and impressionable females before a determined and disinterested young male gores you."
decimation: and 'responsibility' means 'yer ass is on the line now', not 'you can choose to do as you wish'
mircea_popescu: i also like free money as much as the next fellow
mircea_popescu: i like a challenge as much as the next fellow, i guess.
mircea_popescu: Guest64542 as far as i'm concerned, there's a crowd of silly people somewhere on the web that tricked a dc into bankruptcy. yes.
Chillum: mircea_popescu: as usual the conversations here require context that takes time to learn
mircea_popescu: what started as a service for folks too simple to understand why they do not wish to be /user/1004555
asciilifeform: as in the 'nuclear iran' case recently - can even be magicked away without explanation.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as joint and several liability. let the dc sue them.
mircea_popescu: as a warning for later muppets on the score of "fuck with people you don't know"
mircea_popescu: today the dc nulled that ip, which brings them into liability over the matter, as the complaint is clearly spurious,
Chillum: decimation: I have a javascript snipet that shows me pages in the "attack page" category. Every so often someone makes a page describing what a fag some other person is and an editor markes it as an attack page
mircea_popescu: presenting rank ignorance as, rather than humiliatory, a sort of "problem". it's no problem.
mircea_popescu: "[W]hen a writer’s education on a topic consists in interviewing an expert, he is apt to offer generalizations that are banal, obtuse or flat wrong." << in romanian this is known as "a waiter at one of these places where university professors gather can actually soak up a lot, often enough to pass himself for one"
asciilifeform: when i worked, many years ago, at 'nih' in bethesda, maryland - they experimented with reintroducing elevator-drivers. as i understood, it was merely an employment program for the Officially Sad
asciilifeform: (to clarify, i am not of such vintage as where elevator would have come equipped with a living 'driver')
asciilifeform: Chillum: reminds me of an article i read as a boy in some 'mothering/homekeeping' magazine my folks had, about 'should kid thank the elevator'
asciilifeform: he was attempting to abuse the very basic mathematical concept of 'eigenvalue', and referred to it, repeatedly, in print as 'igon value'.
mircea_popescu: the reason is that... as decimation points out... nobody gives a shit about wikipedia
mircea_popescu: bitcoin forum is dedicated to making "free bitcoin content" as well.
asciilifeform: which is why 'democratic' encyclopaedia is approximately as valuable as 'democratic' dictionary
mircea_popescu: this is what an encyclopedia is. not a piling of "information", as the acultural imagine.
mircea_popescu: this is about as pointless as it sounds.
mircea_popescu: Chillum again, that an elephant which counts to three is pretty great as far as elephants go does not make this a mathematical discussion.
Chillum: we have piles of crap, and then we have stuff we selected as core subjects to get attention
Chillum: decimation: as an astronomy enthusiast I disagree most firmly
asciilifeform: Chillum: may as well take over a psych ward to get at the valuable napoleons therein
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's relevant support. the support of people you're not intimate with is worth about as much as the word of people not in the wot.
decimation: as in 'if the peasants don't want to work in the factory - starve them until they do?'
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2014 23:13:14; asciilifeform: ultimately, being a builder of industry at the 1917 (or even today's) tech level, fundamentally sucks. as in, the same way being in prison sucks. so stalin et. al. tried experiment: what if being a peasant sucked -more- ? and - it worked.
asciilifeform: specifically as pictured in the film, even.
asciilifeform: as pictured in http://trilema.com/2014/a-piece-of-cake
asciilifeform: but the basic idea is as old as the industrial nunneries of the 19th c.
asciilifeform: naggum's 'managing an unskilled labor force means easy access to people who are skilled in whatever is needed right now, not an investment in people -- which leads to the conclusion that a programmer is only as valuable as his ability to get another job fast.'
decimation: I suspect the 'men-as-parts' strategy is primarily implemented by the aforementioned engineer managers with poor social skills
mircea_popescu: i don;t think "men as parts" is actually all that good.
asciilifeform: men-as-fungible-parts ends up 'winning', at least in the short term.
decimation: asciilifeform: but does working as a usg employee at jpl really free him from java hell?
asciilifeform: gramming in Java means a life of continual and unremitting pain. So I vowed I would never be a Java programmer, which pretty much shut me out of 90% of all software engineering jobs in the late 90's. This was OK since I was managing to put together a reasonably successful career as a researcher. But after Remote Agent I found myself more and more frustrated, and the opportunity to work at Google just happened to coincide with
decimation: well, to be clear, the chump market as represented by wall street fund managers
asciilifeform: 'hired to solve problem' means that you are theoretically free to do it with a computer made of trained squirrels pushing trinary equations, so long as this fits the constraints set by the client.
asciilifeform: more to the point, anyone hired with a public advertisement in reference to particular programming languages is hired as meatrobot
asciilifeform: decimation: i did not say that nobody solves problems at 'google.' merely that no one is hired to 'solve problem.' rather, folks are hired as fungible meat robots.
Cummerbund: It was more naivety before learning what needs to be learned, so rightly I was embarrassed (As opposed to just wrong)
decimation: for one thing, I doubt he's being charged for a felony as a juvenile
decimation: being as how the journalist is likely retarded
Chillum: using an admin password to log in and changing nothing would be just as illegal
decimation: the thing that struck me as weird about the eu (comparied to the us) was how compact little towns are, and how rural the countryside is
BingoBoingo: Chillum: Edging back garden with peppers handles deer/birds usually. As do the coyotes/feral cats. Getting drunk and pissing in yard handles coyotes.
BingoBoingo more attracted to firetruck as giant toolbox than as firefighting implement. Also water cannon
BingoBoingo: In present vehicle's previous life as rental car parking break cable became welded in engaged position. Mechanic corrected situation with bolt cutters.
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 20:29:20; trinque: chart a course towards the smallest of them, and towards selling it as well
Chillum: early in computer science it was believed that computers were like brains and that with enough resources they could simulate one. As we progress it becomes more and more clear that brains are nothing like a computer
whaack: I'm confused as to why anyone would care about using GPUs to hash passwords
BingoBoingo: Graphics cards were never really "hacked for hashing" Bitcoin just came along on the exact time AMD graphics cards came into their own as massively parallel compute devices
Chillum: using numbers only adds entropy when you randomly selecty them from the same set as the letters
asciilifeform: Chillum: why do you describe her as 'not a pet' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, all the proper females ARE pets in good homes. the remainder are like unemployed "employees" that are not so much unemployed as wilfully *unemployable*.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is ahead of the game as usual:
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if all the currently existing ones are pets in good homes. e.g, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663930 ☝︎