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pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lol and "i don't want our daughter dating some niggar boy"
asciilifeform: german authorship, if it isn't obvious
jurov: !t m f.mpif
asciilifeform: because it wasn't a 'shitbook', had decent display and usable (if with 8 fingers) keyboard
asciilifeform: you can't buy this now, for any amount of money
asciilifeform: and it is fine to say 'use lynx.' so i did. but turns out that you CAN'T GET the box running 'as if it was 2004' when my libretto happily ran freebsd with no lag
asciilifeform: but i don't know very many people who give half a fuck re: nazi case law today
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but in a very laughable sense where we DON'T learn the identity of the victim OR anything pertinent re: why he was picked
BingoBoingo: didn't turn that they know of
mircea_popescu: jurov keep going, eventually we figure out we actually don't need it. over alf's dead body.
BingoBoingo: Aren't they notorious for killing their entire crew and cargo?
pete_dushenski: mats: being the token chinese dood isn't a terrible spot.
pete_dushenski: mats: well, this christmas you can be thankful that you don't have to contest with other chinese doods in b-a for that little niche (yes, there are niches in b-a, as anywhere else).
pete_dushenski: don't forget to cite ben_vulpes too ;/
pete_dushenski: if that doesn't make you swoon...
ben_vulpes: interface isn't precisely self-consistent, no.
ben_vulpes: assbot doesn't even give me a useful complaint.
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 05:25:36; mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something.
asciilifeform: but this doesn't crap out the url
phf: (drakma:http-request (concatenate 'string (cdr (assoc :location (nth-value 2 (drakma:http-request "http://dpaste.com/api/v2/" :method :post :parameters `(("content" . ,(concatenate 'string "foo" '(#\Newline) "bar"))))))) ".txt") :force-binary t) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something. ☟︎
asciilifeform: nah i don't expect anybody to implement it.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean by me.
ben_vulpes: i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: the pastebinatron that doesn't mutilate line endings does not presently exist
asciilifeform: can't ./foo.pl | ftp ...
mircea_popescu: wtf ftp doesn't pipe.
asciilifeform: ftp doesn't pipe
mircea_popescu: and if you don't, it's not, for him or for you.
asciilifeform: we don't have it
asciilifeform: because it doesn't multiply the work i have to do 100x !!!
asciilifeform wasn't trying to make the point that this item is direly necessary, but that phf's scheme is specifically the correct answer
mircea_popescu: so you want him to make you a login because you don't want to make your own login
asciilifeform: because i sure as fuck ain't pressing a hundred buttons
asciilifeform: i can't pipe text into archive.is from a shell !!
asciilifeform: every 24h cron greps the day's log for a link to the post, if doesn't find - deletes.
asciilifeform: and phf's idea doesn't require any complex state
ben_vulpes: well don't get in the habit of failing to cite sources.
asciilifeform: because haven't thrown it out yet ?
asciilifeform: but we aren't there yet.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the correct 'non-enumerative badness' expression is, ultimately, 'don't give cpu cycles out to all-comers'
thestringpuller: didn't that kid end up getting shot/stabbed in the bathroom?
mircea_popescu: a lot more of this "oh, you're on aws ? well... you can't do X" stuff is sorely needed.
asciilifeform: can't wait for the politruks !
mircea_popescu: so this entire "unix terminal is retarded" thing isn't as much of a concern
mircea_popescu: note however that you can't rely on me reading the "clearsigned" thing with any particular mechanism.
asciilifeform: and we still don't have agreement - yes, even among unixlines - how to actually display 'plain text'
asciilifeform: and i still insist that the 'clearness' of 'clearsign' is a jwzism. NO YOU CAN'T actually read the payload 'without tools'. yes, you can put it to a line printer, and get a human-readable page. BUT it will not be WHAT YOU SIGNED! not bitwise, and not mandatorily, and therefore not at all.
asciilifeform: i don't want to need to imprint turds with a seal before flushing.
asciilifeform: i don't want to replace my toilet with an authenticated one, either, y'know ?
mircea_popescu: what am i to be like one of those us military base commanders that can't run a quarter mile ?
mircea_popescu: somehow more annoying than when women don't.
mircea_popescu: the #1 most frustrating thing known to man is when computers don't do what you expect them to do.
mircea_popescu: you understand, i hope you do but if you don't i'll explain it, that the only - THE ONLY - reason for literacy is so you can read contracts.
asciilifeform: don't take my word for it. go dump a tar of ascii text to console
mircea_popescu: i can't read tar.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:29:42; mircea_popescu: thinking about it : the one thing i like about dpaste in preference of uploading files is that i don't have to provide a filename.
asciilifeform: i don't sign my farts either.
asciilifeform: and i don't see any reason to sign a disposable, ephemeral turd.
mircea_popescu: but a gpg would-be replacement that doesn't have clearsign is not actually usable as a replacement
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:35:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353048 << no. this is a color of bits issue ; i couldn't care less what the technological constraints [appear to] be. a contract is a single item, not a text and a separate signature.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353065 << 'v' lives and dies by detached signatures. and i'm not implementing payload mutilation in 'p.' and i won't be using anything that mutilates payloads if i can help it, ever. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's exactly not it. the difference is that the former STOLE something. a little bit of something, and something that wasn't well bolted down by a legal process. 300 years ago you'd go to jail for pretending to be the mayor ; even today you can go to jail for pretending to be a cop.
mircea_popescu: thinking about it : the one thing i like about dpaste in preference of uploading files is that i don't have to provide a filename. ☟︎
jurov: maybe i'll act on it myself, so i won't say now. but it's quite obvious.
ben_vulpes: isn't the classic answer 'the other gurlz'?
mircea_popescu: i don't think i want an authenticated dpaste, myself.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the dpaste : im not abstaining from helping or anything of the sort. there's been an idea, it's been trashing around in the b-a uterus trying to come to conception. it doesn't seem that it actually works tho, seems more like an irrealisable chimera of disparate, irreconcilable parts.
ben_vulpes: well no it wouldn't be sensible things
mircea_popescu: i didn't even make one this time!
ben_vulpes: "i don't solve problems, i just make them"
mircea_popescu: but in fairness, this is just another facet of the monolithic usg-slavery-thoughtpattern. living in the states is good enoughy for me ; i don't really need a blog and it's not THE central, defining thing of my current existence ; on it goes.
ben_vulpes: i'm not saying that they won't, i'm say that nobody appears to actually be doing so.
ben_vulpes: people aren't getting blogs and using them.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:01:25; ben_vulpes: isn't that called a webserver?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353048 << no. this is a color of bits issue ; i couldn't care less what the technological constraints [appear to] be. a contract is a single item, not a text and a separate signature. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i just hope he doesn't have a girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1352990 << the only megalol is wtf does some schmuck that can't afford food do withy computers. ☝︎
punkman: I don't want 'clearsigning', but if I'm gonna have ascii armored messages/sigs, might as well stick them in one blob, and an unencoded "preview" of the message can be nice to have
asciilifeform: 'clearsign' kinda worked for documents intended to be STRICTLY human-readable, where newline crud doesn't have much of an impact
asciilifeform: because CAN'T PIPE THAT
punkman: no reason we can't have pseudo-clearsigned, text at the top with hex escapes for unprintables, full msg+sig in lower base64 part
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 17:51:51; asciilifeform: because it doesn't belong in-band.
asciilifeform: with 'clearsign' - i can only sign certain strings which don't contain the escape magicks.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:10:20; ben_vulpes: but i don't think you called out specifically that you can rewrite the whole file's line ending styles without invalidating it
asciilifeform: '... A physical calculator (and not a touch-screen app on a tablet) has something that the surrogate doesn't. For one thing it does not require you to do GUI context switching. It does not compete for mouse (or keyboard) with the other tens of open programs. I find this invaluable. On the other hand, touch screens take away tactile feedback. This gives the same bland taste as the soft power-off switches.' << yes!
asciilifeform: ore inefficient, using more and more RAM and CPU to do the same things. Since right now, I am very low on money, this means I am stuck using Xcode 6.2, and trying to not misclick anything when I plug the testing devices and iTunes nag me to update them... because if I allow them to get updated, I will have to upgrade Xcode, OSX, and the entire machine, and right now sometimes I can't afford even food ...'
asciilifeform: 'For some reason, completely unknown to me, Xcode is ALSO tied to OSX version, For example Xcode 6.3 requires a OSX version more than Xcode 6.2, despite having no huge differentes between the two and Xcode 6.3 don't requiring any new OS capabilities that Xcode 6.2 didn't already used anyway. But every time you update OSX and Xcode, not only they sometimes explicitly require a new machine model, but they also get increasingly m
asciilifeform: who doesn't love a good ol'fashioned race condition bug
asciilifeform: didn't he lose his key ?
asciilifeform is still waiting for the first 'shall be delivered'-style disaster to illustrate 'don't carelessly sign things'
asciilifeform: and i ain't signing pipe garbage
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> maybe i'm just thick, but i can't think of what ben_vulpes's 'wotpaste' is actually for << not really his, i just idly asked why would we make a special thing for paste when deedbot already has all that functionality and more. within the same ten minutes it came to light why and the matter went away afaic.
asciilifeform: maybe i'm just thick, but i can't think of what ben_vulpes's 'wotpaste' is actually for
asciilifeform: i still don't get what is so terrible about this.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> heh, i suppose that's the strongest indictment for the soviets ever : can't fucking distinguish 50s from 80s looking at the pictures. << yeah, whenever i see these older pics, I can't tell if its 30 years ago or 60
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 16:49:49; mircea_popescu: heh, i suppose that's the strongest indictment for the soviets ever : can't fucking distinguish 50s from 80s looking at the pictures.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> isn't verifyall equivalent to no checkpoints? << in trb yes. otherwise... complicated.
mircea_popescu: heh, i suppose that's the strongest indictment for the soviets ever : can't fucking distinguish 50s from 80s looking at the pictures. ☟︎
punkman: isn't verifyall equivalent to no checkpoints?