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a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:29 asciilifeform: i gotta wonder how mircea_popescu squares pictures like this with 'net worth is proxy for intelligence', 'executives are skilled professionals', and similar
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:08 asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave
mircea_popescu: douchebag_ toohigh NoMo rainrawr and whoever else, you seen http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ i expect ?
trinque: eh nazis that can't and now I guess the kids are pulling out their dicks
trinque: and doubly "I can't be bothered to know a few integers"
rainrawr: danielpbarron: how do i register
trinque: MTW: I have to make the wallets.
rainrawr: ok wtf do i do
danielpbarron: idk, l0de picked my brain on how we're taking down the USG and i guess he didn't like my answer, but i told him i'd send him some bitcoin with the bot if he gets his key regged. he said he's never heard of GPG..
phf: i thought the spam was funny, because i want to his youtube channel and there was a bunch of very upset and confused people there. i thought it was an intentional, as they say, good show
l0de: I'm wokring on it
danielpbarron: yes, that's how i found it. it's live again tonight and i just called in
KutmasteR: i honestly don't know him that well
danielpbarron: i'll give you one more chance before the down
mod6: Anyway, more as I have it. Thanks[
mod6: Hmm. Ok, well, there *might be* a quick fix to this on my end -- not withstanding important original design flaws pointed out by asciilifeform above ^, seems that I have a possible idiotic thing in my toposort. Once removed, *appears* to do The Right Thing.
mod6: speaking of tree-display... once I spit out the tree for eucrypt, then it makes sense. no reason that you should have to press 'eucrypt_mpi_fix_copy_incr.vpatch' to have pressed 'ch2_truerandom.vpatch'
esthlos: BingoBoingo: yes, I think it's time for that
esthlos: that's where I'm at, trying to figure out the order to apply the diffs
asciilifeform: the press algo i wrote was extremely lame , and mod6's vtron went astray by copying it, rather than the item in my head, lol
asciilifeform: actually i am reading my orig V nao and shuddering
BingoBoingo: <esthlos> i'm trying to implement V, without reading too much source (as asciilifeform suggested), so how is this so far: << Well, stop reading code and take V on a walk down the Rambla.
mod6: I'll stop working on all other things, and dig into this. Will advise as I have more to say.
mod6: I don't have a fix ready or anything of the kind, in fact, this could be the nail in the coffin for my v.
esthlos: i'm trying to implement V, without reading too much source (as asciilifeform suggested), so how is this so far:
phf: obviously, i didn't realize that the stake took this particular shape in this case
asciilifeform: pretty sure i've read this
phf: asciilifeform: you will find this lulzy, little factoid that i didn't know till now http://lj.rossia.org/users/aculeata/1365141.html
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, I plan precisely a unifier; that makes total sense to me, see above where I already said I consider v99 behaviour as correct
asciilifeform: v as i originally devised it, specifically 'grasps' by ~1~ leaf, when calculating a press
mod6: i'll take a look and see what your thing is doing later. will report back.
diana_coman: fwiw mod6 I'm rather happy you wrote it though, as it helped me a lot in the beginning when I was trying to get my head around v itself; having at least 2 implementations to compare is not a bad thing
diana_coman: mod6, no rush at all; I just reported it because unexpected to me; let me know if there is any other info I can provide to help
mod6: i simply curse the day that i ever wrote the thing ☟︎
mod6: i'll have to take a look a bit later here diana_coman
diana_coman: it seems I also found a difference in press behaviour between asciilifeform's v99 and mod6's v: this new vpatch of mine si correctly identified as leaf and otherwise descendant of ch1_mpi.vpatch by both v ; however, when pressing ch2 vpatch, mod6's v presses this other leaf too from what I see, while asciilifeform's v99 does not press it; to me v99's behaviour seems correct but I don't know if this is something that was discussed before
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 18:42 mircea_popescu: rooster sees hen and runs towards her. hen reflexively starts running away. after a short space the hen thinks "if i stop he'll think me a slut, if i keep running he'll think me stupid... how about i stumble."
phf: well, i have an intuitive understanding of what's going on now, i just need to work through calca. i've also simultaneously understood why lapack is so valuable. and yes, i see how that ties to lagrange's mechanics.
phf: i have to admit, my math is so weak, it's reading these papers i realized that Proper Engineering actually uses something called state-space representation for discretizing dynamic systems, and that behaviors of, say, robotic manipulators, have time independent, closed form solutions. also of explains that scene from anathem, at the workshop
phf: right, i guess you were doing industrial robotics and such?
asciilifeform: oyea phf pretty sure i saw this
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755450 << i've picked up a book in new orleans, “Symbolic computation : applications to scientific computing”, it's all macsyma and various sussman style scheme hacks for exploring dynamic systems, but an interesting trick that almost all the code uses, which i guess was sop in lisp world at some point, is to do visualization and control on a lisp machine, but do the heavy numeric simulations in fortran 77. the in ☝︎☟︎
freetlas: I'm very disapointted with myself for not even being a Beginner of The Republic.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 01:52 phf: i think correct method would really be to get the transaction out as a binary array into shiva, and then have a transaction parser in shiva itself that'll break it down into a sexp or whatever
trinque: I will post an experimental patch soon, when fit for other hands ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i assume it also sheds various mempoolisms ? )
asciilifeform: trinque: this is neato and i'd like to try it
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756072 << I have already split the wallet from trb in a patch I'm testing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i gotta wonder how mircea_popescu squares pictures like this with 'net worth is proxy for intelligence', 'executives are skilled professionals', and similar ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anytway, this car has been idliong in parking lot long enough. i will bbl fo reals.
mircea_popescu: i'm absolutely NOT going to sit here and say to trinque yes you're here and doing things but your item should be even an iota less usefull to you than it could be "because public"
asciilifeform: sorta where i was going with experiments such as 'wires' etc
asciilifeform: as i understood trb historically was 'and here is bitcoin minus the post-2011 barnacles, deviate at your own risk, derps, it will still be there an' working'
asciilifeform: i gotta ask, in what terms instead
mircea_popescu: i guess. better have it capable and let operator design than have it incapable and no choice.
asciilifeform: i.e. giant mmap.
freetlas: I apologize, Lord BingoBoingo. Usted conoce a una odontologa venezolana?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, accomodating the truth that most people want a friend more than I do, and letting them shoulder their share of the burden helps make BingoBoingo spanish functionally amusing in person.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> all i can say is, to date only observed db death on boxes with actual bit rot. << Aha, saw when trying to start trb from blockchain loaded onto box from corrupted thumb drive
asciilifeform: i.e. copied it elsewhere, and it mounted ?
asciilifeform: all i can say is, to date only observed db death on boxes with actual bit rot.
mircea_popescu: i see it on occasion ; and yes decent predictor for ssd death.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755987 << i have seen this item a grand total of twice, and both times -- dying hdd ☝︎
asciilifeform: the bottom limit is what it takes to move in a block every 10m . i.e. ~2kB/s.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well yes, i'm aware that there is not a literal 100mb/s modem, lol
BingoBoingo can't recall running a trbtron I could touch on a connection faster than 3 mbps until in Montevideo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see a number in there ; be moar useful and speak the value.
asciilifeform: i did.
BingoBoingo: trinque: More slowly than I would like. The whole US citizen bullshit is giving the accountant quite a workout when it comes to making banking work to pay for the racks.
asciilifeform: aha , ^ is how i came up with the value
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't blame the patch, only "now I have an observation which suggests touch the knob"
asciilifeform: incidentally when i wrote the versionknob patch, i did not expect that everyone here will run with ~same~ , default ver
asciilifeform: i'ma produce it this weekend, if no one else has.
trinque: I agree with that as well.
trinque: I have the republican list in addnode and that's it.
asciilifeform: trinque: that knob is there, to be turned. i've no argument that 'version dun matter', it may well matter. but oughta be tested correctly, as indep. variable.
trinque: in the case of the version number (which I will obviously test extensively, and said so) it's possible it's a bad move to crank to maxver, because it's a lie saying "we support all misc novelties below this int"
mats: in regular practice i'm uncertain how to masquerade as prb without running a heathen node and plugging trb into that
mircea_popescu: we have had A PROBLEM for longer than i can recall.
trinque: I reported this in the log
mats: and at that time i just fed those blocks back to the advertised nodes, it caught up
asciilifeform: and i'm satisfied that i found the reason for it. ( and no i do not have a ready pill, the ~algo~ is broken )
mats: i've had some luck syncing with 'btcwire' nodes, when all of the advertised nodes were ~30 blocks behind or unreachable on sunday
trinque: I was brief on details because I fully expected that others are seeing the same behavior with the trb nodes they maintain. public indexes of nodes report that just about every single one is far behind.
mircea_popescu: i'm aware, i'm aware.
mircea_popescu: trinque i gathered you moved from knob set to x to knob set to y ; that's not the same as a "do this experiment".
mircea_popescu: "study this room" rarely works in my experience (and yes, i experienced ; we have small toys for hiding etc)
trinque: I plainly said what I was going to do about it
trinque: what was meant is that I want others to study their nodes while I study mine
BingoBoingo: Well, I just stayed a playful friendly extranjero and let the laughing and the context do the not heavy at all lifting
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 05:23 trinque: for now, I can report that setting the version number to 50400, a trb node will catch back up, txns will unstick.
asciilifeform: what i saw was http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755777 ☝︎
trinque: I already put it in the log, what
trinque: it is not as though I restarted the trb node once, said "oh ok, worx nao"
mircea_popescu: trinque hey, i'm all ears.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 14:52 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755775 << i dug into this item last yr, and found that the version thing is mostly a red herring : when you set 50400, the same derps drop ~you~, a millisecond or so sooner than you would've dropped ~them~ via malleus. the real culprit is always http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-23#1702558 .
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755798 << this does *not* explain what I put in the log, though it is also a problem. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: freetlas: Living yes, But in a way that challenges what i considered living before. Much more living aca.