asciilifeform: the aquarium model is imho spot-on, but with the detail that most of the usa inmates are not fish in the aquarium, but zooplankton, quite invisible to the owner and the fish alike
asciilifeform: unless notion is 'opiate for the masses', where 'neet' is herded into barns that are 'undendurable without pot'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recall the piece. can't currently picture how it applies to pot tho -- it isn't 'performance dope'
asciilifeform: ( only problem, from pig-farm pov, being their 'munchies' but the corn people will take care... )
asciilifeform: you need a ~$500k (turkeydollar) plant, to do it the adult way. and i suspect that there are not 500k of turkeydollar between them atm.☟︎
asciilifeform: because not so far removed from the kitchen lab, at the moment.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812886 << in actual industry ( as opposed to garage dope kitchen ) essential oils are extracted with supercritical co2, rather than petrochem ( i expected that ben_vulpes would know this )☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. some folx will pick it up, but no visible dent on traditional tobacco market )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect it will be same dynamic as with the battery-powered nicotine thing
asciilifeform: and by extension, for instance, rng ( witness the lack of excitement among heathens in re fg, for instance : 'expensive, and what exactly does this do that my intel doesn't')
asciilifeform: observe that crypto is ~still~ the quintessential lemon market.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812861 << observe how ~all~ farming in usa, was put under 'soft kolhoz' by fdr ( and at exactly same time, and for same reasons, as in old su into 'proper' kolhoz) and nobody alive today remembers any other kind of farming☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: there's an aesthetic component to the habit, in addition to the merely pharmacological.
asciilifeform: that being said, afaik folx-with-money in usa prefer whiskey bottle, rather than 'joint' ; but this could change, already recent piles of printolade are distributed in the west, to 'joint' folx, in preference of east cost whiskeyists.
asciilifeform: there's a sufficiently heavy admixture of veblenism , to make engineer-style pronouncement of 'of course you need three acres and three years, and nobody's making more acres or more years' -- questionable
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812870 << continuing with this, observe that obtaining alcohol is considerably simpler than prime pig or even 'californirast grade' pot ; and yet there is such a thing as a 200 $ bottle of whiskey☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812908 << i suspect possible case of 'never say never'; in usa there are traders in... whiskey securities; and 'arbitrary names' abound (scotch, bourbon, etc) ; possible that in e.g. californistan , old man ethyl will give way to the green leaf as 'primary dope' and same agricultural-financial mechanics will apply to the new as did to the old☝︎
asciilifeform: ( iirc gentoo on dulap -- and then as supplied to s.mg -- was baked from a stage4 of same vintage )
asciilifeform: and it represents the most recent asciilifeform-baked gentoo
asciilifeform: ( specifically one of my replies, dated apr 25 )
asciilifeform: mod6: if you still feel like experimenting , i'ma bet stage3-amd64-20161219.tar.bz2 ( the amd64 version of the arm64 stage3 i built the rockchip pilot plant image from ) will work 100%
asciilifeform: if it was q3 or 4 of 2016, or later -- ~impossible to restore sane gcc
asciilifeform: mod6: your hosed gentoo : what year stage4 didja use ?
asciilifeform not expert in subj. but! will leave https://archive.li/8NEUh for the truly lulzcurious, describes lulincident during design , when pure gold (!) bolts were added, in nearly last minute, to homogenize density of the 'implosive' core
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a classic luleffect, rubble ~always~ on wrong side within certain radius of epicenter ( i forget exactly what slice ) because it comes from ~vacuum~ suck
asciilifeform: not a fan of almond cake, i take it...
asciilifeform: whether cyanide-flavoured, or apple-flavoured.
asciilifeform: fuhrerprinzip works. is the only thing that works.
asciilifeform: he difference between the item that they claim they want and any other item labeled the way they want' in particular.
asciilifeform: '...Stupid people organize and through collective action arrive at "consensus", which is batshit nonsense filtered by idiots out of their own ass, entirely unrelated to any kind of reality. And then they attempt to force it upon the actual people... It's not annoying because it works, which of fucking course it doesn't, but because the only way to deal with them is to exploit the fact that they're so fucking stupid, they can't tell t
asciilifeform: kurchatov being a great demo case; he had the authority to behead. laboratory -- worked. ( and not merely via 'copy leaked design', the ~indigenous~ nuke was crafted in parallel with the copied 'rds-1' , and subsequently went to production )☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812579 << it doesn't. however mythical beasts do not need to physiologically add up and live. on other hand, ~socialism-flavoured~ ( or with just about any other flavour, shinto-flavoured or confucius-flavored worx just as well.. ) fuhrerprinzip -- does work.☝︎
asciilifeform: i bet d00d is pissed, too, phone rang and nao he has to crank out the fud, rather than his light daily routine of nsa.burning xen 'bugs'
asciilifeform: just when i was about to think 'where is boeck! has he died'
asciilifeform: and besides, remember , it was Cosmic Rays and at the same time There Are No Broken Keys and incidentally cosmicrays and remember , craigwright is satoshi, and oh oh bigblocks.
asciilifeform: no good citizen would carry out a long division on a terrorist's instigation!1!!
asciilifeform: and funnily enuff brick has not even hit bottom yet.
asciilifeform: to apply mircea_popescu's classic 'thrown brick' model : stalin cleaned up the place, and threw the brick. which stayed , for a short while, in the air, in the form of 1950s-60s techno-extravaganza , rocketry, nukes, etc; then brick, engineless and wingless, on downward trajectory.
asciilifeform: ( took 3+ rounds of meat grinder, too )
asciilifeform: by the time of the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757902 incident, whole edifice was more or less thoroughly hollowed out and had approx as much genuine 'leftism' left inside, as the stuffed heads in a hunting lodge have meat☝︎
asciilifeform: sorta why, imho, folx who lament 'and then cruel cynical grifter stalin took over' have it backwards.
asciilifeform: there ~are~ plenty of folx who walk, talk, even pretend to do work (in cafe, somewhere, or holding stop signs, or whichever) while earnestly believing in 'equalism', 'abolish ranks', etc. ~but~ these won't become even city dogcatcher, much less fuhrer, simply too much brain damage required, it gets in the way
