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ascii_field: (leaving aside
the question of whether mr s speaks for hitler)
ascii_field: point is, hard
to compare it with project
that requires quite possibly more
than one lifetime's worth of ab initio research
trinque: being able
to control hardware via gpg-o-gram remotely, suuuuper appealing
trinque: and perhaps other deadly practical
things
trinque: sure, and I hope you charge me a good amount of margin atop cost
to own one
trinque: but rather
the logistics and cash-flow required
to
take on
the other
things
trinque: er I mean,
the engineering of it
trinque: I'm not
talking about
the hardware
trinque: just sounds like you're not
thinking like a business about
that
trinque: because considering
that I don't see how we disagree
trinque: ascii_field: in your mind is cardano not
this kind of pragmatic first step
towards future hardware production?
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: (though whole debate is about whether we ought
to fly
to alpha centauri or proxima centauri. neither is on
the
table)
ascii_field: trinque: no, it's approximately
this sum in -actual money-
trinque: not nearly
the umpteen
trillion I've heard before
trinque: that's a couple million bezzlars
tops
trinque: so if
there's no path from here
to
there, it's not a
thing
trinque: absent
this are
the economic considerations
ascii_field: trinque: laugh if you like, but my issue with gabriel_laddel is precisely
that he is willing
to compromise -too much- rather
than not enough.
☟︎ trinque: guy's never sold a
thing in his life
trinque: assbot: near as I can
tell
this masamune is going
to make gabriel_laddel rich because it "has" value
trinque: these
types if
they can be managed at all have
to be under
the command of someone who doesn't give a shit about software as art
trinque: gabriel_laddel | I'm clearly valuable, other people
take care of me. <<
this fucking kid
jurov: and it was rehashed literally
tonight
trinque: and
then whatever convo
this brought about
jurov: exactly
the same case
jurov: have you read
the log about quimby/hannah&barbera?
trinque: connecting
two cities is useful even if
the whole system isn't done.
trinque: actually better example
than one road, a highway system
trinque: but
the guy was dead set on building
this whole relational coding environment for... I don't know, your grandmother, anyone, "the people"!
trinque: its as if someone's laying bricks one by one, and
the guy with
the vision for
the road says "NO, YOU MUST LAY
THEM ALL AT ONCE!"
trinque: what does
their clarity get me?
jurov: that
they are wrong!!!
jurov: go
tell
that
to any of
the geniuses who pursue clarity at
the cost of starving
trinque: that said
things like cardano look like chewable pieces
to me
trinque: jurov: I am saying
that if you
think your problem is above economics, you're wrong.
jurov: can one go
to mars by carefully cultivating
their mind?
☟︎ trinque: ascii_field: my observation working for a few brilliant guys is
that
the unwillingness
to break
the grand vision into chewable pieces results in failure
jurov: how doest
that compare?
trinque: or on
the other hand, if
the only route
to mars is starvation, maybe we've got no business aiming for mars just yet
ascii_field: trinque: i dare say
that -no one- can make money doing -this-
☟︎ trinque: after he beats
the word "waste" into your skull
trinque: you may at best go work for
the guy who can
trinque: if you're
taking us
to
the damned promised land, better be able
to complete
the journey
trinque: "I can get us
to Mars! It will only
take more
than any of us have."
trinque: gabriel_laddel | story
time: I ran into loper-os after a stint programming clojure as a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. << don't ever do
this; if you can't make money doing it, you're not
the guy
to do it.
ascii_field: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu msg ack'd. mega-l0l!
mircea_popescu: one wonders what orwell would have
thought of
twitter.
mircea_popescu: his heading. Some of
the incidents in it are flatly incredible, others have been rearranged and romanticised, and not merely
the humiliation but
the persistent ORDINARINESS of everyday life has been cut out. Dali is even by his own diagnosis narcissistic, and his autobiography is simply a strip-tease act conducted in pink limelight. But as a record of fantasy, of
the perversion of instinct
that has been made possible b
mircea_popescu: "Autobiography is only
to be
trusted when it reveals something disgraceful. A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from
the inside is simply a series of defeats. However, even
the most flagrantly dishonest book (Frank Harris's autobiographical writings are an example) can without intending it give a
true picture of its author. Dali's recently published LIFE comes under
t chetty: asciilifeform, well
that is certainly proof we have passed
thru
the looking glass, if anyone needed proof
mircea_popescu: eh by now
the us police's got
to
this point where a)
they're dumb enough
to crash into each other and b) when it happens
they'll write
the wind a
ticket for reckless endangerment.
chetty: well I guess one would have
to go read
the actual court documents
to be sure
williamdunne: Sure no I know about
the baby I just meant
their response
chetty: well I recall
the incident about
the kid getting hurt a while back, not so sure about
the court case
mircea_popescu: he was defeated. no big whoop, for anyone except
them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as far as i can
tell, he's just another larcenous piece of shit << well, he's one of
the first crop of derpy bureaucrats who
thought
they;'re gonna leverage
the fiat state into a position of bitcoin power in a hostile manner.
bitstein: asciilifeform: good points. I posted it mostly as a reaction
to
the knee-jerk reddit response getting all butthurt
that he would do such a
thing. Of course, indifference may be
the best response.
mircea_popescu: yes. as
the us
turns into shit,
the balancing act consists in avoiding splashing
mircea_popescu: nah, it's gotta be 2nd pass, with
the usual vague baked in
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