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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still vegetables, but... Not as many.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and so california is running out of water because while population doubled, water works have not been allowed to go forward ; and the us is ethically collapsing because hey... no useful violence to be had << Also the part where the largest agricultural use of water in California is... Alfalfa... for export to China as livestock fodder...
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112435 << that is an advantage in roughly the same manner as bezzle automagically condensating on a plastic card in my position, is an advantage ☝︎
nubbins`: many of the lessons learned inside the kitchen are uniquely inapplicable outside, as well.
nubbins`: TBF i don't think i have a chance as a chef anyway
asciilifeform: and that if you were not in -their- wot, you had no chance as a chef ?
asciilifeform: but if you learned that these folks -were making a living as chefs- ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, why i suggested 'sommelier' as term for the hypothetical: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2014#582380 ☝︎
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well thats hard to summarize with a formulae as its relative. Normally I would favour the person who was most productive prior to said violence
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would have approached from different angle, and suggested that sommelier must have actual understanding of how the damn thing works. as well as a certain amount of reverse-engineering capability.
asciilifeform: for instance, i regard experience with intel boxes as entirely irrelevant to what a hypothetical proper 'sommelier' would do.
mircea_popescu: as a government, all you can get is beta males and menopausal females.
mircea_popescu: because no matter what, govt will keep getting that money, and keep seeing him as a worthy expense.
mircea_popescu: "No thanks. I'll keep using my card. It has way too many benefits not to. I'll switch to Bitcoin when it's easier to use, offers buyer protection and has more benefits than cc's. Which won't be anytime soon." << funny how dynamic equilibrium perceived as static works.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to this kind of 100k
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "If Macintosh laptops (long held up as the gold standard of quality in personal computing) " << nobody ever held a laptop as an acceptable form of personal computing. let alone any sort of standard.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:58:31; Adlai: reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:57:05; EllieAsksWhy: I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right?
ben_vulpes: "Minaj pulled out of Hot 97’s Summer Jam after a DJ criticized Roman’s smash EDM-styled single “Starships” as something other than “real hip-hop.” Lil Wayne and the rest of Young Money canceled their performance at the show as well, in solidarity." << heh.
EllieAsksWhy: I will peruse. Y'all will probably be amused by this, but I tried to get myself here by getting an account at one of those bitcoin gambling sites, Satoshi Dice or such. I thought that if I could get an ID there, I could figure out how to use it as a
Adlai: reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation ☟︎
EllieAsksWhy: I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right? ☟︎
asciilifeform: <jurov> maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas ... << the notion that computing machines, as presently constructed, have some direct connection with what maths folks did in the 1930s is nebulous at best. even if commonly believed
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine << in the same sense as a fart, or even two electrons whizzing by in vacuum, are a computing machine. us earthlings are interested, for this reason, in -programmable- computators.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112089 << dude, stop futzing with it, it's good as it is. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 03:50:42; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:29:22; asciilifeform: and l0l, apparently no one mentioned the matchsticks. so let this count as mention.
williamdunne: If a club lets anyone in, so long as they can travel to the club its not exactly discriminatory, just a matter of practicality
williamdunne: Sure, it doesn't care who you are so long as you have keys and the ability to sign
mircea_popescu: menahem "like how?" as in, show me how it would go. quote this putative comparative exampler ?
menahem: as for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111776 ☝︎
fluffypony: as long as it treats a DNSSEC as a hard fail it can
fluffypony: that said, a DNSSEC fail is a soft fail (as not all zones support DNSSEC at this stage) - so it'll present the address for user validation
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:33:34; mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O
mircea_popescu: anyway williamdunne i see what you meant by "not as eloquent" :D
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cazalla: jayk, did ya refuse to take it off? bandana is as bad as feet on table tbh
mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because that is the property here : same as entropy, bitcoin lacks the ability to review earlier states on the base of later states.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:43:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid.
asciilifeform: and l0l, apparently no one mentioned the matchsticks. so let this count as mention. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:44:55; decimation: usually with power, bus, network, etc supplied as part of the 'crate'
asciilifeform: partly because it allows imbeciles to feel as if they are 'sticking the finger' to those boring 'squares' who actually take the time to think things through
asciilifeform: partly because it makes a convincing simulacrum of problem-solving, as (per naggum) hollywood special effects 'may as well be the real thing'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it is a mistake to describe perl as 'based on' anything in particular. it is soup, consisting of the entire contents of a crashed delivery van. soup reflective of what is to be found in the author's skullcase.
trinque: I was for example shocked to find an object system in CL as a layman
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't going nearly as far as any of that.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world. << select portions of humanity have, to varying degrees created "clean" computing.
mircea_popescu: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, idea is that some people who can't even make dragonfly are in a weak position to teach grandmother to suck eggs, as it were.
asciilifeform: as per l. lamport's essay
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:56:01; Naphex: trinque: gentoo doesn't even have iptables defaulted, so as soon as his done he'll end up recompiling
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:16:50; menahem: seeing as everyone is posting their blog love, i did write this today: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ (brings up mircea_popescu 's discussion on RIPple with W3C)
decimation: asciilifeform: http://opencores.org/news,1420039286 < apparently the openMSP430 was used as the basis for an eu-manufactured rad-hard asic microcontroller for space
Pierre_Rochard: I was outraged because the reason they ignore quarter (and don’t raise an error!) is because there’s no convention as to whether the date should be the beg or end of the quarter. Month, week, etc do the beginning, why not adopt that as the convention!?
Naphex: having a annonymous ip is dandy. but no way anywhere near as enough. you still have to implement most of the stuff i said above especially the filtering part
Naphex: local is always a threat as well, no matter where you airgap
trinque: Naphex: as far as what it means to have a fits-in-head system, please do read asciilifeform's material; he's far more qualified to say.
trinque: Naphex: regarding earlier thread, things such as parsing inputs, putting sensitive data on networks that don't knock knees directly with the web, all great stuff
trinque: what is this obsession with making things safe, as though you don't still die in agony at the end?
menahem: pete_dushenski def, ill try <pre> as per ben_vulpes reco. always a work in progress. :)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that clock i bought from the street spammer works about as well as ought to be expected. sometimes stops for 2,3,4,5+ hours - then runs... then, again...
asciilifeform: and will sell you the necessary x86 box, yes, 'in any colour you like so long as...' (TM)
decimation: as opposed to a 1u server you slip into the rack
decimation: usually with power, bus, network, etc supplied as part of the 'crate' ☟︎
Naphex: as i will on clisp
Naphex: asciilifeform: and you defend from 0 days as always. running hardened and buring your servers while filltering all input
Naphex: asciilifeform: and you get all sorts of added on. as well the standerd jre is pretty clean. most of the exploiting fun is on j2ee app servers and other enterprisey thingies
Naphex: trinque: gentoo doesn't even have iptables defaulted, so as soon as his done he'll end up recompiling ☟︎
Naphex: trinque: yeah but might as well just skip the kernel.
mod6: ok qq: i saved the config as 'btc-dev-gentoo64-ami.config', under the chroot: /usr/src/linux ; do I need to do anything specific to ensure that I'm compiling with this config instead of the defaulted filename '.config' ?
trinque: williamdunne: I tend to think there's a place for metal as cheap as a micro ec2 instance for example
williamdunne: trinque: Wouldn't that be the same as any DC that offers cheap metal?
mod6: i guess this is just my first attempt at it. this build of gentoo needs to built with nothing extra so we can build all of the rest by hand, then we'll have a clue as to what tool chain it's using and it's not using something wacky behind our backs.
trinque: mod6: of course as per earlier thread, this idea that xen guests can be secure is laughable
menahem: seeing as everyone is posting their blog love, i did write this today: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ (brings up mircea_popescu 's discussion on RIPple with W3C) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i know that if i'm the guy where the buck stops (usually rendered as "ceo" in anglocircles) then god damned are my opinionsmandatory for the whole organisation. wtf else are we even doing.
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I too have the capability to write, even if I'm not as eloquent as most here
ben_vulpes: as in bible of the commoner?
assbot: The Bitlove LLC spin on their recent implosion, as presented to their captive audience. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBmy2M )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-bitlove-llc-spin-on-their-recent-implosion-as-presented-to-their-captive-audience/ << there, actuallky discussed
mircea_popescu: nah, doing it as i go along
mircea_popescu: not as easy as it seems.
williamdunne: Okay, so MPEX route or just as a small private product
Naphex: mircea_popescu: well if they do the breakout they'll surely rootkit the hypervisor kernel as well. so doubt they'll ever find out :P
Naphex: trinque: i guess, as i see they use xen. imho letting xen guests define the kernel is a sure way of suffering when they manage to break out of the hypervisor :P
mod6: Is it at all possibru to set up the instance with a Gentoo AMI, and then use it as a shim to somehow re-load with a clean stage3?
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: try as atom
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: So what are these Pogos? I had a look for them but I found some cloud backup company who didn't even advertise a pogo plug as far as I could see
williamdunne: With the price being used as the key
Naphex: as long as you don't have duplicated data ( and you shouldn't)
williamdunne: Wait, surely TreeMap is the most ideal as it guarantees that the orders are actually.. in order?
asciilifeform: as if it were a contest between languages
williamdunne: Naphex: Matching engine, using one thats meant to write to disk and have an audit trail (as well as being stupidly high performance) but so far its treating me like shit
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard places that are serious about online banking mandate use of ie 10! and they get their sexurity as activex implants!
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/#comment-113887 << as far as i can tell, the thing being proposed is virtually exactly lavabit...
asciilifeform: aha go as foreplay - do captured stones end up 'in' ?