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mircea_popescu: the problem is, since you can't guarantee workers staying up, you'll need a way to create them anyway.
diana_coman: that being said, I'm not sure in fact that there is a need for the Initialize procedure itself if I'm to cut something out (it's enough to initialize the array when declaring it - although technically it will happen later than within initialize,it's still before anyone gets to use it so perfectly adequate)
diana_coman: s also when a job is finished since the player id may be released or when/if a worker aborts unexpectedly )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, one could certainly keep at all times 64 worker threads idling and waiting for jobs; initially I had implemented it precisely as such: all it takes is to accept a Get_Job request only when there IS a job to hand out; it adds a bit of complexity in there though because there has to be a flag for "available job" and then it has to be kept up to date correctly (which can be a bit tricky as it's not only when a job is added, it'
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/the-travel-guide/ << Bimbo.Club -- The travel guide
BingoBoingo: also apparently this unit had plastic window trim
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The plastic grocery bags they hoard
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is even flammable in these.
BingoBoingo: Apparently I beat the local news to this too
BingoBoingo: The motos however did not get sirens, only the apparatus
BingoBoingo: 1 fire truck and 4 bombaderos on their motocicletas were on their way down the street when I finished my rubbernecking
BingoBoingo: Blog post incoming, an Indula in one of the giant, ancient concrete human warehouses on the Rambla is engulfed in flame. Rest of the building looked ok.
mircea_popescu: the ustard is that species of moron who imagines anything outside his shithole doesn't, properly speaking, exist.
mircea_popescu: famously, a hungarian was defined cca 1890s, as that species of moron who would rather eat soap wrapped in paper painted his coutnry's flag than french cheese in a plain wrapper.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you."
mircea_popescu: that's not even so much the problem, rather us unlike su very dedicated to feeding moron's vanity, consequently lots of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-07#1893406 sheer cheek. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in su there were always legends of d00d who keeps cow in city flat and feeds to it 'pravda'
mircea_popescu: a need to not fucking starve was identified, and the ministry of idle pomp and spurious circumstance has issued a raft of confetty with scribblings on them in this general direction!
asciilifeform: see, they haven't found how to make a jonathan apple from anthracite just yet. Moar Studies Needed (tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:40 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet , ~erry day at breakfast : 'when can i eat apple that tastes like apple again'
mircea_popescu: which is so su it screams, except of course it dun scream audibly enough to penetrate the us moron shell.
asciilifeform: ( coal is moar or less the 1 mineral resource left in north a in any substantial qty )
mircea_popescu: already in full swing. the one response when getting $item for enslaved usgistani girly is "o wow this is the best $item i ever had".
asciilifeform: it is even rumoured that usg is pouring printolade into fischer-tropsch , a la the ~prev~ reich
asciilifeform: i expect there will be plenty of attempted-'substitute' lulz, a la the wooden spokes in wheels of late imperial jp trucks.
mircea_popescu: well, it'd be unfair to women of color or some shit to make them.
asciilifeform: amerisads forgot long ago how to make even such thing as electric motor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure even ~these~ they buy from siemens.
mircea_popescu: except the us has no train infrastructure to speak of still, and instead of fixing that obvious problem blew wad on anti-car ; and the sligtht advantage submarine had historically is mostly gone, by now sub and ship equally detecvtable.
asciilifeform: it's a bitch to make e.g. small stepper w/out magnet.
mircea_popescu: sure, and trains.
asciilifeform: ( large motors include 0 magnet, i suspect mircea_popescu knew this )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still no way to have high performance electric engine without high performance magnet. which is all the lulzier considering usgistani "innovation" in "how to go three miles to the galon by first turning it into a large lithium battery"
mircea_popescu: the us could be producing supermagnets out of discarded starbucks cups just as well as it makes "bridges" or "college graduates" or whatever else they supposedly make.
asciilifeform: i suppose in 1 sense 'succeeded', iirc principal eater of nd magnet was ye olde mech hdd. tho i dunthink the rise of ssd had any to do with usg idjicy, only w/ korean coolies slaving in 4 shifts
mircea_popescu: in fact, pressed shitboard supermagnet just as likely as 3d-printed quantum computer or whatever the fuck else. they get all the amateur twerps to pretend like pressed shitboard made houses are 100% true and real houses, what's keeping the imaginary magnets and imaginary computers i wish to know ?
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how the 2011 thread seems to never have return to nobody's concern. coulda baked some quantum computing magnets for the same money.
mircea_popescu: the sheer unmitigated gall to announce "they identified and sponsored". what the fuck's it supposed to do, i identified a need for more sluts and sponsored the creation thereof at two bits a titpair. what, usg,dea is better than me or something, is the hallucination here ?
mircea_popescu: the sheer pomposity of these morons.
mircea_popescu: es in Critical Technologies (REACT) program, to develop alternative materials. In 2011, ARPA-E awarded 31.6 million dollars to fund Rare-Earth Substitute projects."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : "Chinese manufacturers have become a dominant force in neodymium magnet production, based on their control of much of the world's sources of rare earth mines. The United States Department of Energy has identified a need to find substitutes for rare earth metals in permanent magnet technology, and has begun funding such research. The Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy has sponsored a Rare Earth Alternativ
asciilifeform: i mean at all. i dun think even in actual rocket su had'em.
mircea_popescu: was the only way -- they had to be better, i wouldn't lower myself to mine inferior stuff.
asciilifeform: i dun think we had neodymium magnet in my orcistan
mircea_popescu: "do you realise what happens if he keeps mining $50 toys for 35 cent magnets ?"
mircea_popescu: it got so bad in mini-mp household, my father got me a stack of superalloy things. "how can you give that to a child ? you realise what can happen if he swallows one ?" (they were these thin tiny discs with hole in middle, enameled)
mircea_popescu: what else is an honest toy motor for!
asciilifeform: i recall pulling the magnets from the motors ( 2!111 of'em ) of that thing.
mircea_popescu goes away whistling "a mudslide to paradise"
mircea_popescu: this might be the first tracked spaceship i ever saw.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/5dIdw << apparently other variants were even moar depressing, this poor fucker has only head
asciilifeform: oh ha, apparently ~errything~ is sitting on teh net somewhere, https://archive.is/gReBS << subj, behold.
mircea_popescu: reportedly centroamericans had same thought when presented with equestrian tin toys.
asciilifeform: the rocket pilots specifically looked as if intended to suggest this thought.
asciilifeform: oddly enuff i did not have this reaction to e.g. tin soldier molded in permanent pose with rifle, or similar .
asciilifeform: i dun think i had a woman-spider single-mold tentaclerape scene as toy. ( maybe in jp they do ? )
mircea_popescu: tho it's more usually woman-spider than man-starship.
mircea_popescu: you might've not been the only one, seen a lot of these
asciilifeform: later actually encountered this trope in fiction and thought of the toy.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 00:10 mircea_popescu: "i was nitpicking re strength, not the model per se". wth, it's not necessary the model airplane used to test out the worker hive's going to contain the sort of seating inside you can ~rely on~ to see in the finished item.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893553 << as a very small boy, asciilifeform had this toy, where little rocket with two plastic cosmonauts inside, and they were molded in such a way that they only had torso/arms/head, were whole with the cockpit; and took it, as 3-4y.o. might, quite literally, 'in the dark fyootoor man will be grown into ship, live an' die together' ☝︎
asciilifeform: in that light the oven oughta make a good ic frier, has adjustable voltage. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may also find interesting , that apparently ~soft~ xray is 'glitchier' than hard ( the latter tends to penetrate w/out transferring energy )
asciilifeform: will note tho, that if yer machine aint actually intended to fly on a rocket, placing it in a pb bottle is cheaper than baking saphire ic.
asciilifeform: sorta why people still occasionally bother to bake 'si on saphire' etc rather than 'hey let's tandem 9000 konsoomer z80'
asciilifeform: the tricky bit with experiments like that, is that if you fry it enuff you get sram cells that go metastable, rather than simply flip, and then all bets off
asciilifeform intends eventually to actually try ffa on a micro with deliberately-glitchy environment, e.g. inside that xray oven, and see how this goes in real life
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 14:49 asciilifeform: on that subj, attentive ffa reader will notice in certain places asciilifeform marked in comment 'cosmic ray resistance' . this indicates mechanisms where there are two or more separate pieces that ensure a correct computation (or death with alarm bells) if somehow bit flips , when this is inexpensive.
asciilifeform: lol rk crashed and ate own shit, not reboot, yer thinking of the x64
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, it could only happen if there is catastrophic error in the logic ? )
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-91.517-91.599 << when might this happen ?
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-185.130-185.193 << (again given that i haven't used the threadtron) interested to learn the answr to 'what do they weigh'
mircea_popescu: "i was nitpicking re strength, not the model per se". wth, it's not necessary the model airplane used to test out the worker hive's going to contain the sort of seating inside you can ~rely on~ to see in the finished item. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was nitpicking re the algo, rather than the draft coad per se
mircea_popescu: you can't go "it doesn't seem to me this architectural model is very strong, seems made of polystyrene". yes, the model's made of polystyrene.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-139.9098-139.9968 << dun seem like diana_coman's mechanism specialized by creating different 'species' of 'worker' -- but by using case selector, as i expected it would. therefore it remains a puzzle to me why to terminate an' rebirth'em ( to save a few kB of ram when machine load is light ?? )
asciilifeform: i'm betting that it will work , cuz the type aint exported.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 22:35 asciilifeform: this is done with a standard ada feature called 'controlled limited type'. which i found that, for no documented reason, dunwork in gnat's static lib.
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-109.1672-109.1738 << will be interesting to see if this functions if stuffed into a static lib, in light of the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889467 puzzler ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it is most wise to start restricted and push out as need be, no sooner.
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/#selection-101.42-101.207 << possibly i mentioned this prev., but asciilifeform avoids secondarystack not because it doesn't work reliably , but because it makes audit of binary moar difficult. i dunno if this concern is really applicable to items other than ffa.
mircea_popescu: i actually quite like the encapsulation she calls "sjm"
asciilifeform has not used ada threadism yet, so quite interested to see what diana_coman made of it
mircea_popescu: i find apache an excellent model for the problem here. the concept of "worker" as used there specifically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'workers' are specialized for particular type of job ? ( i haven't read the proggy yet -- but seems to me that if that's the case, oughta specialize'em by case selector inside 'worker', rather than eating the overhead of rebirthing thread 9000/sec )
mircea_popescu: if you go "job is the player", then you'll trivially want to support more than 1 player/core. if you go "job is crafting or w/e", you will have 50 cores doing "crafting" one time and 5 another time depending and so on.
mircea_popescu: because there's potentially more types of jobs than cores.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 1 immediate q : why do the worker jobs have to be terminated & rebirthed ( rather than having N , 1 per cpu, and 4evah infinite loop of plucking work from queue & placing in finishedworx queue when done ) ?
asciilifeform: a++ title btw.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/where-da-party-at/ << Trilema -- Where da party at ?!
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/02/07/seppuku-job-market-minimal-dynamic-tasking-in-ada/ << Ossasepia -- Seppuku Job Market: Minimal Dynamic Tasking in Ada
diana_coman: daca-i cu tovarasi e cu margarina, nu cu unt!!
diana_coman: sometimes I wonder if practical-minded is not the polite way of saying unimaginative but anyways
mircea_popescu: sa scoatem untul din fluturi, tovarasi!
diana_coman: well yes, less harmful, perhaps even pretty for a bit (until one remembers that they are anyway just flying worms of sorts)
mircea_popescu: a more practical-minded culture, aka "numa' la foale ti-i gindu', sa le-ndopi!"
mircea_popescu: fwih esl gals only get them in the stomach.
diana_coman: since fluturi are butterflies, they are obviously lighter and not loud but also without much substance and not long lived
diana_coman: I'll add to gargauni, goange and barzauni the "fluturi" as one might have those too!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/minigame-smg-january-2019-statement/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG), January 2019 Statement