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asciilifeform: also the thing appears to have better coverage of dynamic libs
asciilifeform: instead of waiting for the thing to die, as in valgrind.
asciilifeform: and you can get these -during runtime- now
asciilifeform: ^ both orphanage-destroyers applied for this example run
asciilifeform: nd the number of calls involved.'
asciilifeform: 'MEM_LIVE records the “live” memory – memory that hasn’t been freed. If the profile statistics file you are processing came from the end of the application’s run, this will be the memory leaked by the job. If the profile statistics file was triggered during the running of the job, it is a snapshot of the heap, i.e. a heap profile. The statistic is accurate (not statistical) and records the number of bytes allocated a
mod6: ok i'll come back to that, it's like a whole process to build that thing.
asciilifeform: (just like many other profilers, this one craps out somewhat terse encoded transcript by default)
asciilifeform: gives the plain text output
mod6: yeah, thats where i am, i just wasnt on the DL page, nm.
mod6: oh, just looking for a version of IgProf to grab... maybe im looking at the wrong thing.
asciilifeform: mod6: i have never seen, smelled, touched - either.
ben_vulpes: anyways, that's a nifty muntzing in the first one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: some several tb of disk would be nice
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: your hardware is not the limiting reactant here
ben_vulpes dreams of a box beefy enough to run sync tests for every patch submitted
asciilifeform: (goes without saying that you need igprof on your box for this to work)
mod6: nice tho!!
mod6: well, was going to launch this for a full sync test.
mod6: think I should stop and compile that in as well?
mod6: oh, darn. ok im compiling right now with : bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE + { OrphanageBurner } + { TX Orphanage Amputation }
asciilifeform: mod6: you can use this to create a blockheight vs heap plot
cazalla: common for people to get toasty'd on our rail way lines here trying to get at the copper
cazalla: half figured that was going to be an electrocution
BingoBoingo: It's copper theft season again http://www.bnd.com/news/local/crime/article22358088.html
ben_vulpes: "*** Update 7/18/06 *** You have to give the California Department of Motor Vehicles (the DMV) credit for creativity on this one. A DMV insider has disclosed to me that the DMV has made a formal request to a federal agency to rule if my Beetle constitutes a threat to national security based on what could happen if it got into the wrong hands."" << hah news to me since the last time i looked at the
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation. << obligatory: http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
hanbot: anyway, archive.today the deedbot page consisting of a dump of the page source of an archive.today page? haha!
hanbot: ahaha. mp was calling them scammers a month ago, everyone was like "orly, mp is so crazu". turns out...
cazalla: i'm sure there is a better way to do it but relying on archive.today probably isn't that great an idea but not sure what else to do (for example, all the bitcoin auction stuff has been completely removed from the US Marshall's website) ☟︎
hanbot: just like if unsigned then? :D
cazalla: hanbot, well of course someone can alter what they submit but they risk their rep in doing so if found out
cazalla: so it occurs to me that a #b-a version of archive.today might be useful, really nothing stopping whomever going back to edit archives whereas with our own, we could sign the archives we make
asciilifeform: and in the case of 'pogo', the door is not in your house, but in... your car.
asciilifeform: imagine having a special door in your house through which perfect strangers are invited to dump in up to five thousand tonnes of gravel.
asciilifeform: and yes, even with the count-bound, the in-practice bound on the tx orphanage bytewise is ridiculous - 5GB ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, even though 'transaction orphanage amputator' may not be a magical pill against oom-on-pogo (my preliminary investigation suggests that it is -not-) it still rips out the idiotic ddos vector that every unbounded cache of anything whatsoever is.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc you had something set up for this ^ ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, now that we have a bounded memory footprint, it may be time to try running pogo with swap space again
mike_c: slab allocation would prevent fragging too
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: more seriously, the only kind of allocator that is a sure pill against fragging is a compacting one. which means -relocating- !! just picture this in a cpp proggy not originally designed for it
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000094.html << wow! nice. will review & start up a test on this later tonight. many thanks. :]
gribble: Hoarding: Buried Alive | TLC: <http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/hoarding-buried-alive/>; Hoarding Moments Season 1 | Hoarding: Buried Alive | TLC: <http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/hoarding-buried-alive/videos/videos/>; Hoarding: Buried Alive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoarding:_Buried_Alive>
asciilifeform: and ought to be tried first.
asciilifeform: rather than building bigger house
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: because the simplest way to get more space, so to speak, in one's house, is to -stop- bringing in and keeping driftwood, dead animals, neighbour's garbage
ben_vulpes: why not just rewrite the memory allocation engine at this point, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu this patch sorta sits right down and has lunch right on top of your 'clean air filter' third rail discussed in c3. but this gordian knot -will- have to be cut one way or another.
asciilifeform: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CVE-2012-3789 << the power ranger version
asciilifeform is stuck wondering why nobody tried this
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 please consider this patch for your test rig
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it will make sense once you read the patch.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> about to try this. << still failing to parse
asciilifeform: naturally, with thermonuke also
ben_vulpes: *.x << contains thermonuke?
asciilifeform: no, the opposite
asciilifeform: about to try this.
asciilifeform: 2) tiny turds, stored and then reclaimed, lead to fragging ☟︎
asciilifeform: 1) and thus, valgrind will not see this as a leak, because the memory is theoretically reclaimable
asciilifeform: our 0.5.3.x has MAX_ORPHAN_TRANSACTIONS but the boojum is that a malicious (or 'cosmic rayed') node can transmit orphan transaction of any size, iirc
mod6: I can't remember if we discussed that or not, outside of the context of your OrphanageBurner
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: has anyone considered the effect of not storing 'orphan transactions' ?
asciilifeform: well yes, but is there any part of it that isn't obvious
mircea_popescu: documenting things is always a good idea.
asciilifeform: or is it obvious to everyone by now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: is anyone interested in seeing the (elementary) 4294967297 proof as a proper article ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1147000 << congrats! even thousdand too look at that. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the last time the us invented something, hitler wasn't born yet.
mircea_popescu: the last major invention in the world (the cellphone) is yurpean.
mircea_popescu: i think they are probably going to be 20-30% forever.
mike_c: except for europe. i don't think they're going to turn it around
chetty: I still like the feel of an actual book, but the worlds libraries on your lap is hard to beat
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/XSCaapg.png << heh best cycles ever. we're getting back to the baseline, which was 1820
mircea_popescu personally doesn't care about books anymore, but can readily see the collector's mindset.
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 14:32:02; pete_dushenski: i've never seen so many beautifully preserved copies of literature, philosophy, history, biology, you name it. in german, french, latin, english too
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146972 << most of the old jewish haunt, from berlin to moscow, is a huge pile of old books looking for new onwners ☝︎
mircea_popescu: chetty oh remember how giggly they were when we ended up in the wrong car ? lol
chetty: but you cant do that in the west, it wouldnt be fair to have women only stuffs
mircea_popescu: for the record, egypt had women only cars in the subway
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 13:49:33; gabriel_laddel: So, they put up signs warning schoolgirls about being molested on the packed trains, but never put any effort into... putting personal space on the trains or the like.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146910 << i think the idea is that the warning enhances the experience. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 13:45:46; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146846 << my first impression was that the instrument is a very long... spoon
mircea_popescu: so now the choice is between system-d and system.html ?
mircea_popescu: consummation is what happens to virgin brides.
felipelalli: Finally in English: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37maml/the_fabulous_bitcoin_island/ - thank you danielpbarron for the help.
mircea_popescu: heh yeah. stoya is probably the defining woman of the 2000s.
jurov: ben_vulpes: congrats! hope it'll be mangy after the daddy!
jurov: http://pastebin.com/AdTXnKT6 that's some elaborate shannonizer?
mike_c: everybody's bringing their newborns to c4, right?
ben_vulpes: probly best to reserve congratulations for when it survives that first night on the porch
mod6: yw. glad to hear the good news.
ben_vulpes: then the machine ran out of paper and there were many windows error modals
mike_c: ah. correct # of fingers and toes?
ben_vulpes: naw, just the sonogram
mod6: incase anyone missed this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000093.html
mod6: so, stay tuned :]
mod6: gabriel_laddel: also, it'll get discussed in the Monthly Address.
gabriel_laddel: !up TheAdversary
mod6: it's in the logs.