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asciilifeform: a select few have the meatwot to actually profit.
asciilifeform: where folks sweat and kill themselves with digging for free, in hopes of getting a few crumbs from the master's table.
asciilifeform: back to the 0day thing - it is what is known as a 'tournament market.'
asciilifeform: see also the example of farmers who burned their crops and livestock rather than submit to 'collectivization'
asciilifeform: think of it this way (possibly paraphrasing old thread.) imagine you discovered a cache of plutonium bricks in your back yard. (rtg in space probe fell apart?) would you let them go to a scrap dealer for 100 usd each? knowing that they are worth millions, and at the same time risking your arse by revealing that you ever had them to begin with? or would you say 'fuck you' and dig a deeper hole? ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148600 << -nobody- pays anything like what the goods are worth in the underground. ☝︎
asciilifeform: can either publish, anonymously or jailably; or sit on it. those are the choices.
asciilifeform: if you don't have an 'in' to the correct 'world', you're out in the cold.
asciilifeform: and this is likely true for most folks who have even a passing interest in reversing
asciilifeform: hell, i'm personally sitting on a stash of 0days that i can't do anything practical with. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 14:56:17; mircea_popescu: they don't know alternatives exist, is my guess.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148596 << except that they approximately don't exist. average schmuck knows of nothing like a reasonably safe way to monetize an 0day ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 14:55:44; punkman: I don't know why the derps keep doing free work for mega-companies
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148595 << actually i suspect i know why. they want to eat. (there is still a misguided notion floating around that 'disclosure' can get you hired as 'seekoority' business) ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'The unpleasant part is a guy from Starbucks calling me with nothing like “thanks” but mentioning “fraud” and “malicious actions” instead. Sweet!' << moral: sell it to spammers next time. for btc.
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 12:31:23; mircea_popescu: hopefully they have enough sense to use 5:1 mix of armor piercing / high explosive-incendiary ammo.
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 12:02:42; mircea_popescu: but be nice. if there's a woman that earned the right to be treated well, stoya's it.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148572 << i somehow missed the explanation, if there ever was one, re: the how, what, and why of stoya ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 10:28:18; mircea_popescu: that's the natural distribution in a 2 million strong society : 10k blokes with a harem averaging high 80s headcounts, 140k blokes double-tagging 60k hos and the rest watching the previous on instagram.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148530 << i don't remember the turks having had 'instagram' ... ☝︎
asciilifeform: jurov: the article specifically mentioned that the server runs continuously, but the house thermostat controls a selectable vent to the street (hence must be installed on an outer wall)
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [10:29] previously it was rock concerts, but that kind-of died somehow << it mutated into the 'festival' circuit
mod6: And my v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 237452
mod6: <+asciilifeform> for example, anyone try a uclibc build yet ? << I was planning to test this on the gentoo box that I built, but it was AWS. I'm going to be picking up a cheap box this weekend to finish up the gentoo guide & then test how it compiles with uclibc afterward. I'm putting in a line about it in the SoBA this month.
jurov: *heat the air... and since it's needed only seasonally, it can be upgraded every summer, i suppose
assbot: Logged on 29-05-2015 23:23:02; assbot: Logged on 29-05-2015 13:35:27; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-05-2015#1147610 << notice that it wants to vent to the street if you don't want the heat. let me guess, air intake is -not- selectable. this means that it would eat your air-conditioned air in the summer, heat it, and blow to the street. scam.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-05-2015#1147849 i don't see any "venting to the street there" it's supposed to hat the air indoors in winter ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: that's the most peculiar invoice i ever saw. yo udon't say who's invoicing, who's being invoiced, it references no contract, how's anyone to use that ? (not that it's any of my business)
mircea_popescu: williamdunne none of these shits that figure they own the world.
punkman: I don't know why the derps keep doing free work for mega-companies ☟︎
mircea_popescu: respect is earned, at the point of a pointed stick.
mircea_popescu: force them to have someone on 24/7 with a valid gpg sign, the works.
mircea_popescu: take their money, let them come here and beg for getting it back.
mircea_popescu: punkman in any case, chasing around these idiots trying to help them is a stupid idea.
punkman: http://sakurity.com/blog/2015/05/21/starbucks.html probably how some of the 50% discount starbuck giftcards were created
mircea_popescu: yang what is this fsf thing doing ? is it still even active ?
mircea_popescu: "it also can take out any police vehicle in one shot"
mircea_popescu: "it can do 0-100 in 27 seconds going forward on the engine and 0-100 in 0.5 seconds going backwards on the gun"
mircea_popescu would like to see a pink wv beetle with an avenger gun mounted.
mircea_popescu: hopefully they have enough sense to use 5:1 mix of armor piercing / high explosive-incendiary ammo. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 06:10:25; pete_dushenski: "A group of bikers will hold a Muhammad cartoon-drawing contest outside a Phoenix-area mosque on Friday and they've been told to come armed in case of a "much-anticipated attack."" << inb4 the cops blame the mosque for starting the ensuing shoot-out
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148454 << lol this should be fun to watch. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but be nice. if there's a woman that earned the right to be treated well, stoya's it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally re https://twitter.com/stoya/status/604010790950150144 BingoBoingo danielpbarron or anyone still having a shitter acct : tell the girl i'm giving her 1 bitcoin and help her collect ?
mircea_popescu: (friedrich of teschen, for the readership. ww1 implosion)
mircea_popescu: heck, woodstock is exactly this "you suck" moment of the us. much blander than historically the norm.
mircea_popescu: ah, there is that.
mircea_popescu: austria had one during friedrich's reign and most of europe had one in the 1790s / 1800s
cazalla: i believe you, just sorta reveals the size of the timeline you and i think on
mircea_popescu: pick a country and i'll tell you at least one example.
mircea_popescu: china had a generation of failures that got kicked out in the 30s, that's what the entire revolution was about. china actually has lots of these.
mircea_popescu: russia and central europe had a generation of failures that got kicked out in the 90s.
cazalla: it's sorta agreed there that this might be the first generation which is more of a pussy than the last
mircea_popescu: not true.
cazalla: pol also made it clear that prior generations always had one that came after it which was seen as worse than the one before it, at least until now
cazalla: yes i remember a trilema article along the lines of this
mircea_popescu: cazalla well the idea of community based on geographic proximity / random accident like that is certainly taken a beating on account of the internets. used to be you had a shot at random neighouring cunt just on the grounds of being neighbouring, at some point.
cazalla: in the suburbs just outside the city there is none of that and the idea that you know who lives around you is a foreign idea to everyone i've met down here
mircea_popescu: broadway's fucking dead, think about it - it was born out of the need to provide entertainment on the cheap for the hordes of stated insland escapees
cazalla: my problem with immigrants is that i grew up knowing my neighbours, my community, it was homogeneous and everyone knew everyone (also was a small town)
mircea_popescu: than the fact that some random immigrant's drooling over random 16yo neighbour.
mircea_popescu: i personally care a lot more about the fact that there are no movies/bands/anything worth going to see
cazalla: mmorpg raids is an interesting thought.. i wonder what race demos of that is
cazalla: tickets, cds, tshirts.. it's an expensive hobby these days
cazalla: i would guess because the last thing that matters is the music.. it's all seating arrangements etc now
mircea_popescu: previously it was rock concerts, but that kind-of died somehow, which i find very weird.
mircea_popescu: i suspect for a while yet the only real social cohesion to be head will be in mmorpg raiding parties.
mircea_popescu: society (as an immanent beast in human affairs) is scared to death of it, these days. i can see why.
mircea_popescu: either trench warfare or "great leap forward" sorta crap.
mircea_popescu: cazalla there is something to be said for social cohesion, the problem with it is that it tends to flow towards all-germany / all-russia sort of constructs.
cazalla: i don't have egalitarian values so that the minority get the majority of anything does not bother me
mircea_popescu: that's the natural distribution in a 2 million strong society : 10k blokes with a harem averaging high 80s headcounts, 140k blokes double-tagging 60k hos and the rest watching the previous on instagram. ☟︎
cazalla: well he's not special and in saying that, i'm not special, but i like but can't explain my desire of social cohesion, which is why i like the hitler videos with endless crowds
mircea_popescu: and the family unit is more of the same. why should 85% have any access to women at all, and why should the 1% not get 94% of all the pleasantly nubile stoyas out there, with the remainder 6% going to the 14% aspirational betas ?
mircea_popescu: once we get an answer to that we can start discussing how to oppress the nigerian again, at which point "immigration policy" may be on the agenda. not befoar.
mircea_popescu: the question of "what exactly is so speshul about joe doe that he should live other than in a hovel like random nigerian" is paramount, and none of the anti-imigration types seem inclined to address it.
cazalla: so i still read /pol/ daily but i can easily point out where i am hypocritcal on just about everything discussed there.. do as i say, not as i do sort of thing is really what it comes down to
mircea_popescu: which i don't see any problem whatsoever with, but then again i'm privileged, or as alf put it, "rootless kosmopolitanski"
mircea_popescu: which is where everyone's headed, from alabama to tasmania.
mircea_popescu: as a result, it collapsed, and as a result there is absolutely no reason they should make more than a dollar a day.
mircea_popescu: anyway i suspect there isn't a way out. historically, the "civilised world" was rich and powerful because it enjoyed a monopoly on trade, built out of scientific and military effort. the twerps in question, joe average, decided to quit supporting the industrial-military complex (chiefly because they got burned twice in 16-18 and then in 39-44, and it hurt badly, esp the 2nd time, and so it's understandable)
cazalla: don't get me wrong.. i like the idea of a strong family unit.. but i also like the idea of loose whores provided the strong family doesn't find out
cazalla: they blame loose women for the down fall of the family unit
mircea_popescu: (actually, there IS a trend of angry older men trying to make these issues about "whores", but general social discourse's keeping them well repressed atm)
cazalla: they blame both of those too
mircea_popescu: well at least it's not blaming the freemasons.
cazalla: but then that is sorta like blacks blaming whites for their predicament
cazalla: but then the argument usually veers towards this being the fault of jews
cazalla: i just see my own anecdotes mirrored there.. grew up in a homogeneous society where everywhere knew everyone.. 25 years later that is no longer the case
mircea_popescu: this is by no means a novel point, or all that aptly expressed there, is it ?
cazalla: well i guess the multi-culti immigration might be a start, not that i mind immigrants but i think they are somewhat right in that it undermines social trust in a community
mircea_popescu: i'll take anything.
cazalla: 5 might be a little tough
mircea_popescu: if you feel like giving me a top 5 or whatever most relevant ideas coming out of /pol/ i'd read it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in fairness what i'm saying is that i don't believe that chan is impressive enough in bodycount to constitute a market anyone would wish to cater to, creating the tv version of hot topic, nor intellectually impressive enough to constitute anyone's thought leadership.
cazalla: yeah that too.. other idea is that the writers are shitposting about their show to drum up some viral marketing type shit knowing that /pol/ will and has run with it
cazalla: well it wouldn't be the first time tv writers have use chans for story lines