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asciilifeform: if someone can suggest a better phrasing for this, please write in.
asciilifeform: hence 'make sure these are yours'
asciilifeform: the idea of phuctor is to detect duplicate privatekey material in use anywhere. the reuse of one particular divisor is only one possible scenario - it is also possible that a very ham-handedly sabotaged pgptron somewhere reuses a whole pair of factors - that is, two or more strangers may, somewhere, share an entire private key. ☟︎
asciilifeform: jurov: now, how one checks that: "Please make sure these are yours" ? << i suppose this is when i explain -why- i wrote the 'dupes' feature to begin with.
asciilifeform: the basic unit of pgptronics is the public modulus / exponent set, rather than 'key' - which is a fairly arbitrary collection thereof
asciilifeform: jurov: but i can take any set of moduli and shoehorn them into a valid key, sure
jurov: how is it possible to create such key so that it has my factor in?
asciilifeform: jurov: lists me, mircea and bunch of unrelated people << unfortunately i have not the faintest clue who created this key and why.
joecool: well i don't see any in there so far without a second uid on the keyserver
joecool: jurov: i think it's keys with multiple uid's?
williamdunne: thestringpuller: Funnily enough, half of the derps in the derp list are d.somethings
jurov: i'm slow on uptake today.. exactly which keys share the moduli? and how can EDDF63E share more than 2 moduli with other keys?
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37y8wm/list_of_bitcoin_services_that_supportoppose/ << civil war list. derps vs. the non-derps?
asciilifeform: jurov: i think what mircea_popescu was asking was - how a mircea_popescu modulus ended up in a jurov key
jurov: now, how one checks that: "Please make sure these are yours" ?
jurov: but periodical prolonging is normal course of events, even recommended to newbs, there should be many more such keys
asciilifeform: jurov: recall that nothing is ever removed from sks.
jurov: i have no idea why my keys are listed there, too. i have extended the expiration date of D0AEE7D7 few times, then removed expiration completely.
thestringpuller: Then I would think I was legit in the twilight zone if i saw headlines like "Prime Minister of UK to have intercourse with female pig."
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what if instead you found them speaking of sex with pigs? would it then also be a matter of interest ?
thestringpuller: wake up this morning and all I see in my BTC feed is derps talkinga bout hard-fork?!?
asciilifeform: numerically, use of pgp is 'manlier' than drilling for oil...
asciilifeform presently contemplating the fact that sks appears to contain virtually no gurlz
asciilifeform: i thought of adding a download link on individual key pages, but then folks will be tempted to use phuctor as a key server
asciilifeform: (recall, there is no 'changing' on sks, only repeat upload)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: old mpex is an easy one - not all of the moduli changed
mircea_popescu: i assumed it was because he had signed them ?
mircea_popescu: so how come jurov and old mpex keys are in there ?
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 12:18:33; mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone had before a way to "check all the keys i've signed" on one page.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148942 << not an accurate picture of what it is. what we have is a list of keys that share one or more public modulus. nothing to do with signatures ☝︎
williamdunne: Guessing bitbet.us is against the blocksize increase
williamdunne: Sounds good to me, see if I can get that done the day before Prague
mircea_popescu: well check out piata sfatului, maybe go on the skylift thing
williamdunne: If I do get there, anything in particular I should be doing?
williamdunne: Guessing there's a train or summin?
mircea_popescu: and you get to cross the mointains
mircea_popescu: williamdunne only about 100 miles or so, shouldb't be more than a coupla hours.
williamdunne sees horde of 70,000 tourists preparing to descend upon fluffypony
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I'll see if I can. If I can convince someone to bugger off with me for the day I will, but only there for a few days :/
fluffypony: so much space that you don't have to run into anyone :-P
mircea_popescu: williamdunne sure, go to brasov :)
williamdunne: "Damn Scotts, they ruin Scottland"
mircea_popescu: plebs infesting the world are the biggest problem everywhere pretty much, except china
williamdunne: A country of that size can't exactly *not* have beautiful parts
fluffypony: [16:19:03] <+mircea_popescu>unfortunately, inhabited. <- it's like what I say about America: beautiful country, the biggest problem with it are the Americans
williamdunne: Just did a google, yeah looks like there's some kinda cool architecture there
mircea_popescu: the old town is not so bad.
williamdunne: Kinda looking forward to it, only gonna be there for a few days though.
mircea_popescu: it's not that decent and even excellent places don't exist - they certainly do. but romanians are unreliable and southerners are unreliable ^ 2, and so they keep changing.
mircea_popescu: you there on business or what ?
mircea_popescu: i could never stand bucharest. i think i spent a total of a week there in my entire life. shittiest town in romania. so i really dunno.
williamdunne: Actually on that note, and particularly good places to eat?
mircea_popescu: don't use the scummy people trying to trick tourists into using their "cabs" at the airport ; insist the masseuse actually sucks you off ; avoid street food
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Any pro tips for while I'm in Bucharest?
mircea_popescu: what's with all the extra vowels people seem to need ? am i too swedish or something ?
mircea_popescu: bloody fucking useless math of this world i swear.
mircea_popescu: and the harmonic series has, of course, no closed form solution
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 03:05:20; decimation: imma clearly label the particles of shit in yer wine
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148879 << this is a complicated problem, in part because the spec isn't terribru good. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 03:03:55; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu this is yet another attribute of the animal we are hunting (the yet-undiscovered diddled pgp client.) almost certainly it shows the claimed fp rather than the actual.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148873 << for the record, i suspect these may well be two different items. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 03:01:54; decimation: it's amusing that satoshi re-implemented MFC classes in his little util.* stuff. he was definitely a winblows VC++ guy
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148870 << imagine that a windows user managed to pull a disappearing act. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: where name fragment is a 32 character match across the users textfield
mircea_popescu: can it somehow be structured to serve that purpose ? as a dump it's ok for now because it's short, but by the time the entire db is processed it will be a gb or some shit. maybe make it a list of entries of the format "name fragment", "first 32 characters in base 64'd modulus"
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone had before a way to "check all the keys i've signed" on one page. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then it could allocate 1/n of its available bandwidth to each available peer, and disconnect peer under a threshold
mircea_popescu: say something like : every bad block received, -10 points. every minute where connection is kept at 80% of its allocated bw or over, 1 point. every hour score decays 1% towards 0, be it either positive or negative. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: with a time decay, with a penalty for sending bad blocks and a positive for sending good blocks at a good speed. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 02:04:22; asciilifeform: (one of my early, unreleased experiments had a disconnector that tripped when we learn that the node we're syncing from is spewing orphans above threshold. perhaps time to bring this back ?)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148837 << i would like to see a patch which maintains VALUED list of other nodes. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
cazalla: page 4 on down under google and with that, zzz
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 00:38:16; williamdunne: Anyone got some good reading material to suggest? Novels preferred
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com.ar/search?q=joshua+dratel&complete=0&prmd=ivns&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w << and i see it as the 2nd result, too.
mircea_popescu: so take heart of ironwood my friendly lumberjack.
assbot: Logged on 30-05-2015 23:09:48; funkenstein_: if you was a dwarf i would send thanks by sending my daughters over
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148782 << there is a possibility that your daughters may have foond their way by themselves, especially if they be tall dwarvettes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-05-2015#1148758 << da fuck is that omg. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other news at 10mn hits / 7mn pages may 2015 stands as trilema's largest month. tananana.
mircea_popescu: ability probably typified by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc9-rYBOS5w
chetty: apparently its up all over the US, more evidence of social breakdown
cazalla: article mentions the homicide rate is up so that fits
mircea_popescu: that city exists primarily because of its renowedly incredible ability to diffuse social tension.
mircea_popescu: which is a sad state of affairs given the history of new york
cazalla: and the poor bastards just needed a bit of room for their balls
mircea_popescu: which makes the police become more aggressive which increases the perceived need of the plebs to act tough,
mircea_popescu: cazalla nah it's just, as the gulf between society and government widens, the ability of society to maintain social order decays. people start taking it upon themselves to provide for their own security, the most vulnerable groups (foreign language speaking, poor immigrants) overstot, which induces negative reactions in the public, ☟︎
chetty: jeeze next they will arrest folks for taking up too much space cause they are fat ..hmm maybe not such a bad idea :P
cazalla: "According to reports, the NYPD has allegedly issued more than 1,400 summons for manspreading this year"
mircea_popescu: the article misrepresents what's going on. this is quite likely "broken windows" ideology.
cazalla: winter tmw :\
decimation: but looking at my iptraf monitor, there are several nodes connected at once, and traffic seems to originate from a particular node in a somewhat random way
decimation: asciilifeform: what confuses me is that the processblock messages absolutely come from a particular node
decimation: imma clearly label the particles of shit in yer wine ☟︎
asciilifeform: it just doesn't do anything in particular with the info, other than displaying it
decimation: asciilifeform: why do the sks keyservers take the position that all crypto checks are 'up to the user'? would you expect your router to check ip/tcp headers?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu this is yet another attribute of the animal we are hunting (the yet-undiscovered diddled pgp client.) almost certainly it shows the claimed fp rather than the actual. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu the next screamingly obvious step is to catalogue 'liar keys' - the most interesting species of which consists of keys where the claimed fingerprint stored with a modulus differs from the recomputed (by us) fingerprint. as per http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880#section-12.2
decimation: it's amusing that satoshi re-implemented MFC classes in his little util.* stuff. he was definitely a winblows VC++ guy ☟︎
decimation: heh the pnSeed array is lulzy