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decimation: asciilifeform: yeah the 'low flow' toilets are bullshit
trinque: at the amazement or the lack of tools
trinque: I tend to be amazed by guys my age that don't own *any* tools
asciilifeform: (more complicated problem, but most can be transformed into something like a pre-1992 model)
asciilifeform: ditto the toilet
asciilifeform: decimation: not like 'humans' will fix their broken-by-design surroundings. visit a few folks in usa and see how many drilled out the idiot 'water saver' thing from their shower head.
asciilifeform: or are there 1,001 other things to do.
asciilifeform: one that works perfectly
asciilifeform: decimation: on a typical day, do you feel like moving a light switch ?
decimation: orcs can access wikipedia too
decimation: asciilifeform: what I don't get about the 'orc' world is: why not learn to fix shit like that yourself?
asciilifeform: (i have heard of literal pant-pissing when subject could not find light switch in toilet)
asciilifeform: e.g., light switches at whatever height builder felt like placing them
decimation: not because building to standards is dumb, but because it inevitably turns into a racket
asciilifeform: americans often piss their pants (or nearly) when travelling abroad to 'orc' world, when they discover what -no- building code looks like
asciilifeform: (they are 'standard' in usa too, but i only touched one with own hands when moved into current house)
asciilifeform: decimation: take a guess.
decimation: but yes, a gfi would have helped too. are they not standard in ru?
trinque: "Development work on Elephant been limited since 2009 and support not complete for the latest versions of SBCL and ClozureCL. It hasn't been tested at all with recent Allegro and Lispworks releases." << must be near the end of the most recent lisp cycle
decimation: 5v ground short to neutral
decimation: most shit chinese transformers I've come across are direct shorts to neutral
asciilifeform: btw even these do not always help in the case of 'toaster in bathtub'
decimation: well, depends on the exact nature of the shock
assbot: Logged on 09-06-2015 02:49:54; decimation: I bet the girl in the bathtub would have wished that her charger came with a $0.01 fuse
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-06-2015#1157534 << fuse does exactly nothing in such a case. you were thinking of a 'ground-fault-interrupter' ☝︎
asciilifeform never seen anything but intel graphics in those
decimation: asciilifeform: they come on both dell & hp rack servers
decimation: but they are shit
asciilifeform owned a succession of matrox boards, until this.
asciilifeform: it was once the gold standard of graphics-for-linux
asciilifeform: decimation: by turning full-bore winblows-only
trinque: well hell, the currency's not worth anything anymore, maybe they are
trinque: how in the fuck is github worth anything let alone 750mil ☟︎
decimation: I bet the girl in the bathtub would have wished that her charger came with a $0.01 fuse ☟︎
decimation: although all the matrox boards I have used recently were shit
mats: did he inspire you to do the same
mircea_popescu: the three sorta lived together
mircea_popescu: speaking of trios, she actually left the guy to be a cabaret dancer in the 70s,
mircea_popescu: send em to bill gates.
trinque: where do I wire the funds?
mircea_popescu: apparently one doesn't need to master english to catch the run-on sentences disease.
mircea_popescu: "I like to re-assure you of the legitimacy of this services as we will not be involved in any fraudulent act and will never be. use the money wisely, we only want to feel good by helping people this time of the year, this is the only thing that makes my wife happy too even now that she is not here with me anymore, we have too much to give away as I only have few months left on earth."
trinque: I guess the ps browser might be opera too
trinque: on the wii you use a mickey mouse finger and your self respect
mircea_popescu: so how do you type ?
mircea_popescu: i had nfi you could do that.
danielpbarron: the news lady in the background looks baffled
mircea_popescu: in other news, there's 3x as many people reading trilema off a sony playstation than nintendo wii
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with these people.
mircea_popescu: is it a collection of tubes ?
mircea_popescu: it is after all the one problem of the clockwork puzzle. how to make one ?
asciilifeform: or in the sense of godelizing it to go to some unintended place
mircea_popescu: reverse in the sense of descvribing the black box.
asciilifeform: reverse in the sense of building it again somewhere else ?
mircea_popescu is kinda curious whether anyone ever manages to reverse the magic i put into this thing
asciilifeform: little did mircea_popescu know that it is not enough to shoot stupid shit in the head, it has to be scattered with trotyl and buries in five separate graves, or will re-assemble
mircea_popescu: this is all i ever dreamed of - a mmorpg where i know the owner so all the stupid shit can be shot in the head
mircea_popescu: im too busy fucking digging up boulders for crying out loud
asciilifeform: l0l there he is.
asciilifeform: no, but i'm waiting for mircea_popescu to wake up and tell me how to do that from across an ocean
mircea_popescu: LA still takes programmingm
ben_vulpes: i'll work on dirty bits too
trinque: right, that's the fun part
ben_vulpes: i'm going to beg a copy of trinque's tools and go murder parts of the economy he's not
trinque: I'm under the delusion that I can make suffciently general tools the jobs don't take that long
trinque: still looking for the perfect set of tools for that
trinque: every program I've ever been paid to write was just a glorified db editor
asciilifeform: which turns any clos class into a working db
asciilifeform: trinque: or the open src 'elephant' ☟︎
asciilifeform misread initially as 'girl electrocuted by toilet in bathtub'
assbot: Girl Electrocuted by Tablet in Bathtub | News | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1AYLa2H )
trinque: not that kind of tablet
mats: >Russian Dies After Eating [Parts of] Tablet Computer to Avoid Police Detention
trinque: though I'm not sure yet what that looks like
trinque: Pierre_Rochard: that said I am under the suspicion that this kind of programming can also be done with CLOS in common lisp
Pierre_Rochard: trinque: I made that mistake with the first version of pacioli with datetime logic, I’ve pushed all of that logic onto postgres now
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 23:57:30; decimation: asciilifeform: the intel cards were hardly high performance
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157366 << highest performance card where the open driver actually worked (of those still produced) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> this will be a different role though, I’ll be working with institutional investors to move their accounting from spreadsheets and PDFs to SQL databases <<< the virgin goddess weeps.
danielpbarron: http://www.trashbagbondage.com/ >> Welcome to Trash Bag Bondage >> We now accept bitcoin
trinque: most ORMs would load the whole damn row into an "object" whatever that is, load all the objects into a list, then iterate over that duplicated set of data and barf out the aggregate ☟︎
trinque: consider for example the difference between using a python ORM and raw SQL for an aggregate over some column
trinque: staying too cozy in python, you'll probably end up reinventing things the db can do better
Pierre_Rochard: I’d like to just go straight to pl/pgsql at some point
Pierre_Rochard: agreed, though I do lean on sqlalchemy a lot, I can write raw sql
trinque put a great deal of effort into that problem, only to conclude that one should learn to write the damn query directly
trinque: worth considering how close you may be able to get the accountant to writing the queries themselves
trinque: all the questions any account will ever want to ask are able to be expressed as SQL
ben_vulpes: trinque likes to bang on about how it was designed as an end-user-programming environment for accountants
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: get intimate with the sql
Pierre_Rochard: trinque: agreed, great role to hone my python skills in
trinque shudders to think of some of the worst abuses of excel spreadsheets he's seen
scoopbot_revived: Eurlorean Crafting - The Pickaxe Illumination http://trilema.com/2015/eurlorean-crafting-the-pickaxe-illumination/
Pierre_Rochard: this will be a different role though, I’ll be working with institutional investors to move their accounting from spreadsheets and PDFs to SQL databases
Pierre_Rochard: I’m going back to wall street
Pierre_Rochard: btw giving my two weeks notice to bitpay tomorrow
Pierre_Rochard: it’s out of the sling, starting physical therapy tomorrow
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: How goes the shoulder
BingoBoingo: !up tsoulus
BingoBoingo: trinque: Yeah, that's pretty much the standard for setting up anything.