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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1137583 << yes. and it only works for as long as there's free herring in the scania straight, or for as long as kennedy is ein berliner and airlifts food for free, or for as long as the north sea oil lasts, or for as long as insane luck rolls keep going. otherwise, fuckall, german peasants were the most unfortunate wretches throughout the intermediate period between first ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 00:59:33; justJanne: Because the US is a reference point as worst case civilized country.
asciilifeform: <mats> fun fact: there is a Turing-complete printer control VM in the winders kernel << the contents of winblows kernel are - imho - approximately as interesting as buruli ulcer. and for the same reason.
decimation: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/0302/US-grants-German-homeschoolers-asylum.-Will-others-follow "But German media have portrayed the case as an insult to the German system. Many Germans are shocked to learn that 1.5 million children in the US are homeschooled and that the practice is legal in countries like France, Italy, and Ireland.
trinque: antisocialist thread went about as I thought
decimation: "Soldiers from all branches of the Armed Forces, civilian first responders, and some foreign military attend the chemical school for training in various types of chemical detection and survival through several courses including practice in a hot zone where actual toxic agents such as the Sarin and VX nerve agents."
mats: fuckers would feed us pasta, one or two meatballs, and week old salad as often as they could
mats: there is this thing known as "zero defect" officers ☟︎
midnightmagic: Medicine here is good too, as are government-run car insurance corps which have superior prices to private enterprises elsewhere in Canada.
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 00:48:25; mats: i recommend a stint as a govt employee
danielpbarron: justJanne, your model works for as long as there is fiat money to manipulate
justJanne: As everyone can claim their model would work.
justJanne: Because the US is a reference point as worst case civilized country. ☟︎
justJanne: Especially as the amount of corruption is very different on where you are, and when.
danielpbarron: that can't be true, and only appears to be because you use the united states as your example of the alternative
jurov: lol, as if private enterprises never hauled political dissidents
justJanne: I don't care if the government owns the trains, as long as they are 100% on time, cheap, and fast.
mats: i recommend a stint as a govt employee ☟︎
justJanne: And, as you stated, you deserve to be punished for being born here.
mats: folks in various programs draw $300-600/mo in govt kindness, and being worthless as they are,
mats: lets use the US Postal Service as a model. something like 200 junk mailers are responsible for pumping $billions into the thing, and they pay a pretty penny to be able to shit in your box at commercial rates (in US, cost of letter is $0.49 -- junk mailers pay 5x that)
danielpbarron: the situation would be so entirely different as to be impossible to compare
danielpbarron: except it's a very specific shot as per what the normal people voted on
trinque: as this aggregate "the people"
cazalla: if you're gonna put your kids in childcare, ya may as well just kill em now and save yourself years of pain
justJanne: my state’s governor uses the same bus as me every morning
cazalla: you might pay $100 to them in tax but you sure as fuck don't get back $100 worth of childcare when it's free
trinque: danielpbarron: heh I always like "surgery by your peers" as a thought experiment
mircea_popescu: society is about as meaningful a concept as baby jesus.
mircea_popescu: no, it doesn't. that's the fallacy of "we can't compare to any alternatives, as thery don't exist - so it works fine!!1"
justJanne: the day after his time as chancellor ended, he got a job at Gazprom
justJanne: microwave from 1980 still works, TV from '96 as well, PC from '98 is still in use.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1136369 << or as we like to call this, "he got von flondored" ☝︎
mod6: asciilifeform: heh, now these 21 guys are saying they wanna make embeddable mining chips for smart phones. glwt. seeing as how they run out of power in like 9 minutes as it is.
mircea_popescu: i take that as a personal insult!
justJanne: danielpbarron: it makes sense to have 1400kbps FLAC, as that’s CD quality
justJanne read that as trinique.see() ? someday : sure
trinque: justJanne: someone requires I use thing X as part of my browser, and that's the day I stop using browsers
mircea_popescu: so "prove i did it" has a very simple counter : if you weigh the same as a duck
trinque: and you've got other people trying to use the things as proper programming tools
trinque: the conflict there is the same one as in SQL
trinque: I do think many "web apps" of today would do better to be written as native code which just opens a socket for data
trinque: justJanne: points out the conflict between the web-as-document-store and web-as-app-things
trinque: hilarious also that the shit getting put into the browser is effectively whatw as in flash
mircea_popescu: <justJanne> gnutella has as much chances of mainstream adoption as Gentoo has << ouch-zing-ouch
justJanne: gnutella has as much chances of mainstream adoption as Gentoo has
mircea_popescu: kinda funny that drm never got as clever as viruses. even back when both these were clever, the ms-dos era.
justJanne: as >> moves the sign
justJanne: as you see, 8 ops
Apocalyptic: still used as prng
ascii_field: justJanne: as if this needed saying
mircea_popescu: you must have a theory as to what exactly would it do before you can actually say a rng was shown weak by dieharder.
trinque: ben_vulpes: the actual dieharder code uses glibc internals in a way that used to work, now does not due to as yet undiscovered source of rust, with vague indications that compiling with std=c99 has implications for glibc
mod6: And as far as the gentoo stuff goes, I kinda had to put that on hold for a minute. I'm going to finish the rest of that up on real hardware. But to do so, I gotta drive across town and buy a new box. I might wait until after the 1st to continue this front.
trinque: as scoopbot is not back I assume deedbot- is the new guy for that too?
mircea_popescu: "we'll just have a world without diehard. should be fine as long as ux is good"
Apocalyptic: ascii_field, i'm still thinking about your "exercice for the reader" from yesterday as to how get $othersmuckQ without at least doing a division for every modulus encountered
Apocalyptic: afaik you need to have phi(N) to get d from e, and computing phi(N) is equivalently hard as getting the factorization of N
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 21:42:17; asciilifeform: re: '21' etc >> 'The cornerstone of the strategy as presented would have been the release of consumer products that would turn power from wall sockets into bitcoin through the widespread dissemination of bitcoin mining chips.' << -somebody- clearly reads the 2013 #b-a logs.
Apocalyptic: anyway the remainding part I have is not divisible by primes below something like 1 billion if I remember my tests correctly, may still qualify as -small- though
Apocalyptic: <ascii_field> at least one falls under the classical 'generated and correctly signed with dud key' // is that key at least a classic RSA key, meaning its modulus consists of only 2 prime factors as opposed to the case discussed yesterday ?
ascii_field: several have invalid self-sigs and for a subset of these, a non-rotten antecedent key can be found (as pointed out by the peanut gallery)
trinque: asciilifeform: turns out dieharder uses internal glibc preprocessor directives which cause it to explode when built as c99
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu observation: the only thing that doesn't parallelize linearly is the multiplication (still parallelizes as previously discussed, by split into cache-sized batches across cores.) but gcd against a known product does parallelize linearly...
mats: and as an aside the high ready position is inferior
asciilifeform: jurov: the derpfest in question was so blatantly an organized 'astroturf' affair that it vanished as thoroughly as anything from 20 yrs ago
mircea_popescu: there's been a total of three pairs, so six total keys to date. i have little doubt that as the program progresses through the list, more will be found. generally, the idea is to discuss this with the owners and them only.
mircea_popescu: especially amusingm, the "key was damaged in transit" one. people p2p HD movies all day, nobody's seen this. gpg data moves around as archives - try flipping a byte in an archive see if you can stil lget the content. etc.
LC^: I see, so the key would serve as an exploit of sorts or a trigger
mircea_popescu: such as, encrypt to it, or email the NSA, or whatever else.
mircea_popescu: with a correctly working pgp implementation, the user connects ot a sks server, discards the wrong key and proceeds as expected.
mircea_popescu: one of the more interesting constructions as to the possible intended uses is, a tandem arrangement. it would work like so :
mircea_popescu: that aside, the question of how exactly weak keys came to be, and what are they doing there and so on and so forth is not nearly as uninteresting as the usg agency would like to make it.
asciilifeform: worth considering - where are they likely to come into play (as fetched from sks)
mats: as though no editor was involved at all
asciilifeform: 'During that time, attackers were able to monitor the activities of anyone using the kernel.org servers known as Hera and Odin1, as well as personal computers belonging to senior Linux developer H. Peter Anvin. The self-injecting rootkit known as Phalanx had access to a wealth of sensitive data, possibly including private keys used to sign and decrypt e-mails and remotely log in to servers. A follow-up advisory a few weeks lat
asciilifeform: barbaric but reasonably resilient (herder would hardcode several boxes to act as irc servers, several controlled by himself normally and a few reasonably lax public irctrons)
asciilifeform: 256 clients all with just a number as name... << SOP. one (at least formerly common) botkit which did this was 'athena.' many others likewise.
assbot: Logged on 18-05-2015 01:35:23; justJanne: Sometimes when I get DDoSd I run nmap against the attacking servers, one time I found a small IRC server with only one channel, in which were 256 clients all with just a number as name, and one other client sending specific commands every few minutes
mircea_popescu: it all stems from a very funamental confusion as to what things are andwhat technology can do. the idea being that technology = magic, and so it can change the nature of things. take marketplaces, which are by nature centralizing, and magic them into being decentralising. meanwhile irl, technology works to increase quantitatively, not to alter qualitatively.
mircea_popescu: having a central (marketplace = central) for it is about as stupid as fire extinguishers loaded with gasoline.
mircea_popescu: otherwise about as literate.
williamdunne: I'll eventually create another key offline which I'll use as a master or summin
danielpbarron: btcg, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1136035 << you need to decrypt this with your first key, and send the result back as !v [decrypted string] ☝︎
mike_c: mircea_popescu: you should be able to drop this link in as the source of the iframe: http://www.btcalpha.com/bb_frame.html?height=90&ref=1GiSXgAhjqYvAB17JjXX8YCqNCizCjLJgp
justJanne: Sorry, he's known outside of DE as Kim DotCom
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Mediocrity is a natural result of psychopathic and sociopathic inroads. The moment upper management ceases to directly observe their employees, the result is the most convincing-sounding people's voices become the most relied-on. Convincing-sounding is not the same as accurate/informed.
justJanne: decimation: I'm on phone right now, but as the latency didn't go up, doesn't seem so. Or at least nothing noticeable.
justJanne: As a large company you can get Google Apps as a box.
mircea_popescu: "[1] He's been scraping the profiles of young women (specifically) and posting links, names, and hometowns on his blog. Yes, as technologists, we know that this kind of indexing is trivial. That's no reason, as a decent human being, to terrorize innocent people."
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for justJanne with note: 55 yo Pittsburgh steel mill worker posing as 19 yo girl on the interwebs.
mircea_popescu: !rate justJanne 1 55 yo Pittsburgh steel mill worker posing as 19 yo girl on the interwebs.
justJanne: assumed as much, but I have no experience with them yet, and was surprised seeing one in the wild
justJanne: Sometimes when I get DDoSd I run nmap against the attacking servers, one time I found a small IRC server with only one channel, in which were 256 clients all with just a number as name, and one other client sending specific commands every few minutes ☟︎
mats: i drank something like 6-7 litres of water that day... missouri is hot as fuck during the summer
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1135780 <<< did this one countless times, not as punishment though, old man forced me to do it along the fenceline so he didn't have to whippersnip it ☝︎
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1135775 <<< heh we had this even here but i'd walk off with the group which cleaned dishes the night before, never washed as much as a plate ☝︎
mats: yeah. as punishment.
ben_vulpes: <gabriel_laddel> I like walking and that is about it as far as exercise goes. << i'm on this minimal time workout kick lately
alphonse23_: sure. it just a shame. hacker news was a real gem back in the day. I'm sure it's inevitable, as things become more mainstream, they get too political, and less honest. Now I have to go out a find good honest news from somewhere underground.