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asciilifeform: why would anyone use anything other than linux boxen for a headless render farm
mircea_popescu: "Pixar does NOT use Apple computers to make 3D for their movies (modeling, animation, render, shaders, etc.). They use Linux, just like everyone else in the industry. Now they might use a Mac to paint a background or texture something but all feature animation is done in Linux (Disney, Dreamworks, Sony Animation, Blue Sky, etc. etc.). That's also true for SFX shops like ILM, Weta, Sony Imageworks, DD, etc. etc. All Lin
asciilifeform: 'mac' ~can~ be treated as something like an irix or solaris box, as a funny-looking frame around a bourne shell and x11 terminal
mircea_popescu: how about that.
mircea_popescu: "The crappy 3D support on Mac OS is in direct conflict with that goal. Furthermore, as a non-Mac OS user, I would kindly request that no disproportionate developer effort be spent on such an inadequate and developer-hostile platform.
mircea_popescu: "And that article Richard posted just seems to exist to stroke Apple's ego. I don't think I know a single artist who would choose to buy one of the new Mac Pros for their work, especially considering the premium you pay and their reliance on AMD hardware in a field dominated by nV and CUDA."
asciilifeform: not speaking of these. but of the folks who want a posix box that fits in a rucksack, where, e.g., 'suspend to ram' works, etc
mircea_popescu: what idiots do isn't really in the scope of this discussion.
asciilifeform: see the point re: 'sole remaining commercial unix ws vendor'
asciilifeform: mac would turn into 'ipad' 'with keyboard.'
asciilifeform: apple's trajectory for years has been to merge 'iphonism' into their entire product line
mircea_popescu: anyone else they have left there won't even try
mircea_popescu: anyway. jobs could have pulled something like this off, maybe, as an outlier result. mostly, he'd have failed miserably while denying it all along.
mircea_popescu: they're the same size.
mircea_popescu: immense and not too much.
mircea_popescu: the need for guts comes in exactly too sizes :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they don't need much gut here, the chip was designed under herr jobs and exists now
mircea_popescu: they'll just pretend like the poroblem doesn't exist and will go away, like any mcdonalds.
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't believe cook has the guts to even try.
asciilifeform: (they are already shipping this chip in the pocket comps)
asciilifeform: result will likely be that apple begins shipping arm-macs with their in-house gpu.
mircea_popescu: at least that's what i got out of it.
mircea_popescu: looks more like, "neither nvidia nor amd were willing to go into a intel-ms deal with fucking apple, because who the fuck do those assholes think they are and it's about time they figured out a) jobs is deads and b) if he weren't he'd be in jail ; meanwhile apple won't talk to intel or asus etc because they think they're too good to deal with lesser babka, and so they're saying fuck you to the entire modern computing g
kakobrekla: >The Navy tried to sail away from XP in 2013, but it seemed to hit some headwind with the project as of May this year it still had approximately 100,000 workstations running XP or the other software.
assbot: US Navy spends millions to stay low-tech | TechEye ... ( http://bit.ly/1BBxESy )
mircea_popescu: no, apparently not their fault.
asciilifeform: address hate mail to nvidia co. ?
mircea_popescu: apparently they are unable to support opengl properly
asciilifeform: (apple does not sell such a thing)
mircea_popescu: as the costs to prop it up just keep on growing and eventually tyhe whole "ecosystem" collapses
asciilifeform: what was the thread about, i'm having trouble telling
mircea_popescu: if they don't have decent driver suport they COULD make some in house abomiation circumvent it all, and so on
mircea_popescu: apparently it's not going to. i dunno whence this idea comes that something can run magically-like.
asciilifeform: aha, they eat via photoshit.
mircea_popescu: those folks, whatever they may think, or wish the worlkd to be, still have to eat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as far as these folks are concerned, gentoo may as well be a particle accelerator at dubna, ru
mircea_popescu: if you want to process say a shader and it takes you half hour on mac and five minutes on gentoo then by this standard one would i guess say it doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: but runs as in what ? "can't access the driver, here's a nice welcome box" ?
mircea_popescu: different things these.
mircea_popescu: oris it just the thing chicklets derping on facebook and calling themselves designers favour ?
ben_vulpes: 'works' means different things for people who use computers vs program them.
ben_vulpes: i work with the 'agencies'. design happens on macs.
mircea_popescu: well, it can only happen if the damned thing works./
ben_vulpes: i went to parsons. i know.
asciilifeform: (why mac survives, i mean. rather than apple corp.)
mircea_popescu: apple wants to be a "mobile platform". because it worked so well for nokia, and for samsung, and for fucking blackberry.
asciilifeform: today it survives principally because it is the only remaining commercial unix workstation vendor.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, apparently the problem is that whatever actual driver support they had, marginal as it was, they're chucking in the new osx
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mno. that was '90s apple (the actual apple, prior to its death and devourment of corpse by 'next' corp.)
mircea_popescu: the things one finds on the internet. i thought mac survived principally because graphics shitheads.
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 19:48:57; asciilifeform: 2) tiny turds, stored and then reclaimed, lead to fragging
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, will post here, once i have closer to complete blockchain
asciilifeform: (this is trickier than it appears, on account of, e.g., memory fragmentation effect)
mircea_popescu: phf do you intend to publish results of your run anywhere ?
asciilifeform: it is demonstrably less efficient than if there were a cache
phf: mircea_popescu: i guess thermonuked is less efficient network utilization, but per asciilifeform better then less efficient memory utilization which was the case pre thermonuke
asciilifeform: phf: both patches are presently considered 'experimental' and not yet ratified by therealbitcoin.
asciilifeform: it was in the interest of (3) that i amputated the 'orphan tx' cache as well.
asciilifeform: all that can be done is to have a node that 1) syncs, eventually 2) allows others to sync from self 3) doesn't go around writing blank cheques for the system resources of the box it runs on and handing them out to street scum
asciilifeform: but there is no especially attractive way of fixing this, presently
asciilifeform: understand, the entire sync mechanism as-we-have-it is profoundly retarded
phf: bastard in this case is something that's will eventually be joined onto blockchain
asciilifeform: but 'bastard' from the perspective of a node is simply any block for which the immediate antecedent is not already on disk
asciilifeform: phf: in the sense that they are uselessly occupying the pipe while they're moving - they do
phf: asciilifeform: a hunch, but also poor understanding of how blocks are requested. i thought that maybe bastards will compete for bandwidth with legitimate blocks
asciilifeform: phf: out of curiosity, what was the logic behind this hypothesis ?
phf: ben_vulpes: heya! yeah, i quit my previous job, so i have a lot more time for avocation
phf: asciilifeform: right, no surprises there so far. i thought that maybe as blockchain grows the cumulative delay will increase, but i don't see that happening yet
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ben_vulpes: phf: is this on os x?
ben_vulpes: good to see you again.
phf: asciilifeform: that's how i understand it, just poor wording on my part
asciilifeform: er it was that she had done to that monkey colony, so it probably is a good thing that she was already planning on changing fields, no?'
asciilifeform: ved a primate colony in which primate females were killing their own children, it could only be because of something she had done to them; she must have committed some horrible breach of experimental ethics that so deranged these monkeys that she had driven them insane enough to do something that no monkey had ever done before. He then stormed out of the talk and went directly to the scientific press to denounce her for whatev
asciilifeform: 'So she gave a preliminary paper on the subject in 1976, suggesting that more research was needed to explain how this behavior could possibly have evolved in primates, only to be interrupted in mid talk by an audience member, a prominent expert in her field. He stood up, tried to stop her from finishing reading her paper, announced that primate females absolutely do not ever murder their own children, and that if she had obser
asciilifeform: phf: read the src. bitcoind never 'requests bastard block', it requests 'next blocks' and ends up with a great many that aren't the precise next block we want
phf: bitcoind keeps rerequesting same bastard blocks before there's enough blockchain to accept it, on average i got 3-4 rejections for the same block, with a few worst cases of ~100 rerequests
phf: so i'm running thermonuked version: at 180k blockcount, i got 44526 bastards, 44007 of which have been eventually accepted with an average 3 minute delay.
asciilifeform: ^ i posted it to 'reddit' when the latter was still readable, in '07, and for a while it held, i think, the 'vote' #1 record on that site
asciilifeform: ^ has book, 'mother nature', where the thesis is laid out. recommended.
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assbot: Logged on 24-06-2015 22:17:37; pete_dushenski: i can see the epidemiology headline now : "sids linked to living in suburbia"
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo "the later is simply for hire" << two t's
BingoBoingo: punkman: The difference is in the preparation that takes it to that point.
punkman: kinda hard to distinguish baby goat/lamb after cooking, at least for my taste buds
assbot: Logged on 24-06-2015 22:00:51; trinque: pete_dushenski: so I hear, yet primate infanticide is most certainly a thing.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-06-2015#1174589 <<< they kill other people's kids, not their own though yeah? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: trying to control variables in any such sids experiment would require insane amounts of data and coordination
mircea_popescu: but so far most of the productions on the topic are "smoking is bad and vaccines good mkay"
pete_dushenski: i can see the epidemiology headline now : "sids linked to living in suburbia" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not that inadequate. iirc it's the leading cause of death in small children in the western world.
pete_dushenski: and the scope of science such as it exists currently is woefully inadequate to study the matter
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, spontaneous abortion is a thing, and obviously children inhabit some sort of continuum between that and adulthood, so...
mircea_popescu: i suppose on the surface "sudden infant death" seems insanity, as adults don't do anything like that.
trinque: yeah, I can see how the thing resembles other media-fueled panics
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu go figure that the courts would find personal responsbility where there is none to counterbalance their continued lenience when it's actually there, as with 'insanity' pleas.
mircea_popescu: eh from what i've heard, they convicted a buncha women for what actually was bona fide kids dying
pete_dushenski: trinque that'd make sense y'know
trinque: I've seen more than a few things published on whether "sudden infant death syndrome" (obviously a questionable concept on its own) is a more palatable "diagnosis" for infanticide
pete_dushenski: throughout the animal kingdom, really