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mod6: except
this is with glibc huh
mod6: weird.
that's basically
the same problem i had with uClibC [ libpthread.a(pthread_cond_wait.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `__gcc_personali
trinque: cannot paste
the whole boost build log
kakobrekla: and
the even bringing
that percentage even higher as some give up.
kakobrekla: when
this happens
there already is such condition as i described give or
take
kakobrekla: the switch happens when
there is 90% of miners on
the new chain (determined by checking last n blocks rolling window)
☟︎ decimation: I find
the probability of
that happening
to be very low
kakobrekla: having a chain with a gazillion difficulty and no
to little miners on it
mircea_popescu: last i heard davout was looking for ways
to programatically exploit
the shitcoin
mod6: punkman: you may want
the kills_integer_retardation in
there, as well as nubs`'s gentoo sanity, at least
the part with
the copying over of
the headers & libs in auto.sh check
those out here:
mircea_popescu: a shining moment of "buying ibm gets you killed" is more valuable
than asia.
mircea_popescu: the mass slaughter of a large contingent of people who act as if "doing what everyone else does is safe", and who lose millions at it is
the best
thing
that can happen.
mod6: <+punkman> ascii_field, does
this sequence look right? >> 0.5.3.1-release + orphanage nuke +
tx-orphanage + dnsseed_snipsnip + zap_hardcoded_seeds + zap_showmyip + dns
thermonuke + irc nuke << looks right
to me.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i am very excited about
this actually happening.
mircea_popescu: as eulora
tips say, "a willingness
to learn is not mandatory. neither is survival."
decimation: those withouth brains will be
trying
to sell used asics
mircea_popescu: and
the same people will be selling
the farm
three
to six months down
the road.
decimation: exactly, so if
they have brains
this will wake
them up
to 'wtf is going on with bitcoind'
kakobrekla: my guess is most wont have a second
thought.
mircea_popescu: so yes, zombies. just, make sure you identify
the necromancer driving
them correctly
decimation: kakobrekla: exactly, which is why
they would use whatever other people say is good
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla
that's fine.
they also have
to make money somehow.
punkman: ascii_field, does
this sequence look right? >> 0.5.3.1-release + orphanage nuke +
tx-orphanage + dnsseed_snipsnip + zap_hardcoded_seeds + zap_showmyip + dns
thermonuke + irc nuke
kakobrekla: but 'miners' are zombies, will eat whatever comes
their way and cant count on
them
thinking about anything
☟︎ shinohai: It amazes me because it
took 4-5 days before
shinohai: What amazes me is it has synced
this far in < 1 day
decimation: what miners want
to deal with bitcoind correctness
mircea_popescu: but in any case : money
talks. not "power rangers" and not
the 0.3% ROI miners. and if moneys says fuck you everyone goes home and
tries something else for next year's costume party.
mircea_popescu: i imagine so would you : a bankrupt field of miners best chance
to buy cheap mining rigs for a long
time
decimation: kakobrekla:
that's why
the reference implementation ought
to be written
to appeal
to miners
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i welcome
the verification of
this
theory in
the field.
decimation: maybe it was
the work of
the volunteer diggers in san francisco
kakobrekla: the
truth be
this or
that, if
the majority of miners
takes up big blocks pogos and company is phucked
mircea_popescu: i would expect a stuttering engine
to go on stuttering until discarded.
shinohai: No, mircea_popescu it has actually been faster
than when I previously synced, less memory footprint ramwise
mircea_popescu: ascii_field get a load of
this :
three days of random, odd internet behaviour, discussed here publicly, which
then went away by itself. i did nothing
to
the server, i asssume neither did you.
decimation: go
to blockchain.info and watch
the waterfall of
txns
ascii_field believes
that we already have pretty large blocks
mircea_popescu: shinohai aha cool
then. no spurts or weird disconnects or anything ?
mircea_popescu: i
think i said
this before, but in any case bears repeating insistently : larger blocks are a complex discussion
that will involve many and numerous benchmarking. it's not
the simple matter idiots make it out.
mircea_popescu: decimation prolly. who
the hell knoiws why people vote
ascii_field: notice
that sync above block 200k or so is cpu-bound
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
trying
to recall - was it you who
tried
to parallel-process
the signature checks ?
decimation: anyway, my earlier meta-point was
that I
theorize
that many voted for obama because he was black but 'not
that kind of black'
mircea_popescu: impossible
to discern how much is a case of "the missionary used a word
to best describe what he saw" and "we have created a structure
through normal function". anyway, minor point.
decimation: "The main Luo livelihoods are fishing, farming and pastoral herding. Outside Luoland,
the Luo comprise a significant fraction of East Africa's intellectual and skilled labour force in various professions. Others members work in eastern Africa as
tenant fishermen, small scale farmers, and urban workers."
mircea_popescu: ie, is it equivalent
to saying "one of
the
terrorist people" or
to "one of
the lordship" ?
mircea_popescu never bothered with it, but is
this luo people an internal or an external identity ?
decimation: well, my point is
that obama is from
the Luo people
mircea_popescu: i do know it is upon
the proponent
to ~prove~ rather
than just assert
that
the
tools we developed
to discuss and analyse
the "terra irredenta" movements in italy cca 1800 are also applicable or meaningful in black africa.
decimation: so
there's 'no meaningful difference' between igbo in nigeria and a majang in ethiopia?
mircea_popescu: but it may mean
the map doesnt work for describing it./
mircea_popescu: decimation gotta bear in mind
that "ethnicity" is not a
thing, just a word we use for
the
thing. it's a map.
that a map is flat and a place is round does not mean
the round place has no geography
mircea_popescu: this isn't a lego car where all
the pieces match shinohai
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, it's not clear what "ethnicity" without a written culture would be.
mats: this makes literacy...
tricky
mats: i speak mandarin influently. my cantonese is pretty good,
though.
mircea_popescu: the french just started using it cca 1800 as if, and nobody really discussed
the matter.
mircea_popescu: decimation i am broadly unconvinced
the concept of ethnicity makes any sense in africa.
decimation: note
that obama is not 'black' in
the sense of being ethnically like most black africans who live in
the us
mats: welp, she does speak mandarin fluently, so she has
that going for her
mircea_popescu: i guess she does look distinctive enough, and since presidents are more about looks
than actors... myeah ok
mircea_popescu: mats i mean i could see it in usage like "e
transilvanean de-ai nostri", ie, "he's one of ours". but
that's for a minuscule and very culturally coherent ethnic group.
mircea_popescu: i gotta say i absolutely am loving
the choices of women
to put "in
tech"
the enema's makin'.
mircea_popescu: she's even better
than
that fucktardina chick
that sunk hp
shinohai: glad
to be of at least some minuscule service
mircea_popescu: ah. just a buncha stupid kids "trying" like
the entire world were a kindergarten and "best effort" were a
thing and really, we're just playing here.
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jurov: not auto updated, url subject
to change
mod6: phf: was
this
the page you were
trying
to follow?
mod6: not
that I have any better ideas at
this point.
mod6: oh yeah, now
that page was
the one i was referring
to; i find it pretty unhelpful at all unless you're looking for just who submitted/signed &
the sig.